passive plant killer

[delta9nxs]

Hi, my names Stranger and I'm a recovering PPK'r.

Last night my wife confronted me asking " Why are you always with our grow? What happened to that way you were doing it? I only used to see you hauling water to the grow about once a week, now you're in there every day for extended periods?" I was called out, she who must be obeyed is not happy.

Its true, I don't know what happened, all of a sudden I had bato buckets and coco set up all in my tent. I now am in there daily worrying and fighting to keep the ladies happy.
What was I thinking?

No kidding, I am now fighting with my grow, always worrying about one thing or another, and I know my plant numbers are up, my yield is down.

I am building my improved manifold and will be getting back to real life soon.

Please think of me if you ever think about leaving the PPK way of life, its just not worth it.

Peace.

we saved a place for you around the fire. we knew you would be back. they always come back.

 

[delta9nxs]

Stranger

I too have a need to eff around, but consider my way:

After 12 years of experimentation, I have no desire to leave something as simple as ppks, so instead, I am attempting to complicate them. Visit the recycled organic living soil thread.

I am building an organic living soil. And I want to water it with a ppk device. Since a much larger volume is required to hold most/all of the nutrients required for a full grow, one must either cram the buckets together for a sea of green, or go with much larger containers. I think a 5 gallon top bucket would be the smallest, but a 10, 20, 50 or 100 gallon top container, or a large, deep, common bed would be the way to go for the size plants most of us grow. So now we are using the ppk as a watering device for a water only organic soil, and keeping the perched water table where it belongs - out of the root zone.

If we can succeed with this, it gets simple again, as many folks on that thread run no-till style. Cut out just enough root ball to plant a new clone, top dress with earthworm castings, compost, etc, (something with a high humus content) and keep running.

Building this soil can be done out of the room, used for outdoor gardens as well, and involve the whole family.

Then we can find a new way to complicate it.

To any new visitors to this thread: disregard this post as it applied to ppk tech, it will just confuse you.

And again to Stranger: when we all get together at the ppk convention, the rest of us will take turns kicking you in the nuts for leaving in the first place - or you can be shunned.

hey, i've wondered why someone hasn't done this before given the chemical stability. i like the bed idea. i haven't seen the thread yet but i will soon. one thing to remember is that the leachate will be very active biologically and will tend to accumulate some nutrients much faster than others. this will tend to compound throughout the grow so starting with a lighter than normal soil mix might be a good idea. lighter as compared to a dtw organic soil mix.

the ppk is definitely the most stable hydro platform to try this with.

 

[delta9nxs]

Epic thread this... It's like a 259 page Mcgyver grow show. Thanks to all who contributed I love it.

howdy, pardner! you still out on the range growing that pre-98 bubba in rdwc?

thank you for reading this huge pile of shinola!

 

[delta9nxs]

D9, what is the new "light thingy" that is deal for growing 4 plants around 1 bulb?

weird! it's weird i tell you! no big deal, just a new way to distribute light.

 

[WeedFarm]

this is the epic thread that brought me back into icmag since making my account, thanks for all the info everyone!

 

[mcfly420]

i used tire valves 30 years ago in salt water specimen holding tanks as air line fittings.

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i used them years ago diving for marine animals. i used them to hook up underwater spray devices for tranquilizers.

any additional details would be appreciated, or does plastic containers and latex hose pretty much sum it up?

 

[delta9nxs]

this is the epic thread that brought me back into icmag since making my account, thanks for all the info everyone!

hey, WeedFarm! welcome!

 

[delta9nxs]

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any additional details would be appreciated, or does plastic containers and latex hose pretty much sum it up?

well, without getting too specific i have used them through container walls with an air pump on them to aerate marine tropicals after capture and as part of an underwater tranquilizer dispensing tool.

since you are probably not going to capture animals underwater maybe you want to inject air or water into something?

in that case i just installed them normally and used windshield washer/ vacuum line from the auto parts store for the whole run.

but that line is inferior to the latex and tubing we use now.

 

[highonmt]

howdy, pardner! you still out on the range growing that pre-98 bubba in rdwc?

thank you for reading this huge pile of shinola!

No longer have my bubba queen lost her to the damn russet mites. Going to have to make a trip to the trinity alps and grab another cut. I am out of deep water and into some mft's way more for way less effort. I'll pop back every now and then and see what new wick-ed setups your troop of mad scientists come up with.
HM

 

[mcfly420]

thanks for the auto hose bit, knew you might want to keep quiet... Dont have anything specific in mind yet, beyond maintaining/balancing water levels and possibly injecting air, was just looking for ways to use what I already have for some unknown future problem. guess ill try the local dive shops for the 3/16¨ ID black latex first

I´m not planning to tranquilize animals underwater anytime soon, just spearing fish and frogs (any tips?) but you can never be too prepared?

EDIT- did you happen to use them in pvc endcaps back then? and do all the latex hoses fit onto the same section of the valve stem? I might want to pump water through them someday and wonder if the hose connection will hold. Might get some 418s since they are the same rim size and are 2in long (413s are only 1.25in) for a bit more friction. $16 for the 50/box compared to $12

 

[delta9nxs]

you mean like this?

 

[mcfly420]

didnt know those valves were also used for buoyancy compensator inflators


they seem to fit in 1/2in pvc caps also. I know your 2 different manifolds will work but Im going to try this direction for a bit...

 

[noyd666]

[/URL]delta9nxs;545 0118]you mean like this?

hi there delta9nxs after reading part of this story iremembered we had some plastic pots outside under cover, 12 14 years old,would have to be similar to what you are building? first shot at putting photos in lol could finish up anywhere. top pipe is to refill res, fine slits in bot of pot drains back, pipe in bottom of pot wicks up ,slits again, 2 more photos here try and put through, might help someone, all the best.

 

[*mistress*]

hey snook! where you been hidin', bro? i know you have pulled off a grow or two since last time we heard from you. how about a progress report? have you heard the new plan? either you give me a thread or 10% of gross production for life.

stagehand099, same to ya! i know you've got a ppk goin' on somewhere now. you know i can be there in about an hour and a half. don't make me come down there to collect!

mrcreosote! well, well, what have we here? you publicly admit growing in a ppk yet i'm not getting any stash from you? i ask you, exactly what kind of shit is this? i've got "associates" in your area. maybe i'm gonna have to tell them to give you a "tune up".

and cactus jack! only 3.125 pounds of stinkin ... per light? and again, i'm not getting the grease? i think you better do a thread or you're gonna be talkin to "fat tony" and guido.

cheers

 

[mcfly420]

so lowes latex tubing is 3/8OD and 1/4ID? and could work for draining water but its $1.74/ft
Does it matter if the 3/16ID black tubing is 1/4, 5/16, or 3/8OD? (1/32, 1/16, or 3/32 wall)

EDIT: 3/16 is 0.1875 -Could tubing with an ID of 0.20¨ be used? theraband makes several different colors (all lightproof?) of this latex´exercise´ tubing with different wall thicknesses. yellow is the thinnest with a .045 wall so 0.29¨ OD - 5/16 = 0.3125

by the foot its $1.30 w/ free shipping but it should be easy to find locally at a much better price. 25ft for 16$ w/ free shipping also

http://www.thera-band.com/store/products.php?ProductID=27

 

[johnnyrotten]

No, the outer diameter size does not matter...

 

[village green]

I think Delta has stocked up on his Jackie Gleason DVD collection, has blisters on his fingers, a hellacious high and sees 3-D models of light cones when he momentarily shuts his eyes.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Anyone using these things outdoors?


See many large outdoor CA guys doing massive smart pots. I'm not versed in the outdoor game but could one feasibly scale this up and do some massive outdoor PPK trees?

Unnecessary.. too complicated?

I've always wanted to do some outdoor hydroponics, but reservoir temps, etc normally are too prohibitive.

Some 55 Gal drum PPKs?

 

[johnnyrotten]

passive plant killer

I think outdoors it would work fine but I'd go with a SIP... Google "global buckets" and you will see something similar outdoors...

 

[hotboxes]

I think backcountry was doing something similar a few years back called something like the Earth box or something It had the dame wick idea but not top feed, it was designed for gorilla applications so hooking up a top feed was never discussed to my knowledge. Hope this helps.