Panama
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Nope, I noticed nothing irregular regarding caterpillars with my panamas. Though I can't remember I ever had problems with caterpillars and ganja. Do you have any photos of these caterpillars?
Heavy winds with heavy rain have made my panamas lean real low and almost uprooted them. If they survive tonight and tommorow morning then they should be just fine. No point in picking them up since they could break off of the root. When the wind will die down they'll pick themselves up.
Cactus Squatter
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next one I find I’ll snap a photo. I find them by either seeing black balls on the leaves, or damaged spots on the flower. I follow them in and boom, trail of caterpillar poop and then a chubby green bastard gorging away boring tunnels through the buds.
It had been only the Panamas, but they seem to have found a KA5H as well that I discovered this morning.
I've noticed in the past the caterpillars prefer the most fragrant plants, absolute nightmare as they seem to get stuck and die, this then attracts mites (does anyone know if it's the same mites that attack dead insects and plants)? This then creates a spot for mold to fester which will quickly ruin the whole branch if not spotted early.
In my country it's the tiny black catipillar that turn into the tiny moths.
Cactus Squatter
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Common Sense
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I feel with you. Caterpillars were a total nightmare with our kale last year, they killed almost all of it. My wife and I spent hours and hours picking them off for weeks. Hundreds from the white butterflies. Whenever we thought we had absolutely all of them there were more just a couple days later. Definitely need some fine netting the next time.
Cactus Squatter those filthy caterpillars. I feel you too and I hope you will be able to harvest as much as possible. Sadly I don't have any quick solution for you 
Egg spotting is probably the best, maybe someone knows if you could sprinkle them with something (I don't use anything so I don't know anything about that, maybe it's also too late for that).
Could your caterpillar be a cabbage moth? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_moth
I always strive to have an ugly garden full of weeds. I do not like to plant monocultures, I always mix plants (onions with carrots , beans and corn, beans and beat etc...) In polycultures, especially if you have lots of other flowers, the pest find it harder to find your plants, spend more energy on searching rather than on reproducing. It may look ugly because of all the weeds but the end result, the yield is the same. In outdoor gardening, be it ganja or other plants, I believe that biodiversity is always the foundation of success.
Egg spotting is probably the best, maybe someone knows if you could sprinkle them with something (I don't use anything so I don't know anything about that, maybe it's also too late for that).Could your caterpillar be a cabbage moth? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_moth
I always strive to have an ugly garden full of weeds. I do not like to plant monocultures, I always mix plants (onions with carrots , beans and corn, beans and beat etc...) In polycultures, especially if you have lots of other flowers, the pest find it harder to find your plants, spend more energy on searching rather than on reproducing. It may look ugly because of all the weeds but the end result, the yield is the same. In outdoor gardening, be it ganja or other plants, I believe that biodiversity is always the foundation of success.
Cactus Squatter
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Mmmmm, sweet Panama goodness. She smells amazing right now.
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a little “mud rain” last night that unfortunately left some deposits on them, but overall looking killer.
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Pakilikodt
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Humple W. could be...IMHO even if she doesn't finish, she's still ripe enough to be an excellent smoke. She look beautiful, can smell her throuhg my screen
We've had interesting weather to say at least. Since the end of september we've had rain (max 3 days in a row, otherways every other day, at night), we've had strong winds, strong winds with strong rain and now when the rain finaly stopped it's gotten effin freezing. The last three mornings were frosty, clear windless skies at night. Today morning we had -3 celsius, yesterday and the day before 0 and -1.
I think my panamas are taking this adverstiy like champions. Not a spot of botrytis, not a spot of powder mildew. Strong winds were a blessing in disguise, drying the plants and air quickly after the rains. This morning freezed lot of other plants (corn, zuchinni etc.) but panamas only had some withered fan leaves, one banghi haze was a little bit more withered and had a couple of tiny spots of botrytis.
A dry spell of weather with sunshine is predicted for the next 7 days but morning temperatures are still predicted to be from 2-5 (maybe less) and day temperatures around 15-20.
So I went by the "better a sparrow in a hand than a pigeon on a roof" policy and harvested the most advanced panama and the most withered banghi haze.
Panama is truely a remarkably sturdy and stress resistent strain. I would say maybe even more resistent than banghi haze (at least these plants, for my spot , for this year)
These pics are from today
We've had interesting weather to say at least. Since the end of september we've had rain (max 3 days in a row, otherways every other day, at night), we've had strong winds, strong winds with strong rain and now when the rain finaly stopped it's gotten effin freezing. The last three mornings were frosty, clear windless skies at night. Today morning we had -3 celsius, yesterday and the day before 0 and -1.
I think my panamas are taking this adverstiy like champions. Not a spot of botrytis, not a spot of powder mildew. Strong winds were a blessing in disguise, drying the plants and air quickly after the rains. This morning freezed lot of other plants (corn, zuchinni etc.) but panamas only had some withered fan leaves, one banghi haze was a little bit more withered and had a couple of tiny spots of botrytis.
A dry spell of weather with sunshine is predicted for the next 7 days but morning temperatures are still predicted to be from 2-5 (maybe less) and day temperatures around 15-20.
So I went by the "better a sparrow in a hand than a pigeon on a roof" policy and harvested the most advanced panama and the most withered banghi haze.
Panama is truely a remarkably sturdy and stress resistent strain. I would say maybe even more resistent than banghi haze (at least these plants, for my spot , for this year)
These pics are from today
paisajedehierba
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The weather in your area was worse than I´ve experienced it here Skoviik. It´s good to know that Panama seems to be that resistant. Your buds are looking ripe for my liking.
paisajedehierba well, it should be warmer but this is how the dice roled this year. A couple of more frosty mornings projected so I've decided to chop them. I would prefer to give them a couple of more days but I probably cut them at a very good time nevertheless. They had a very stong and intense smell that encouraged me to cut them
Humple W.
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paisajedehierba well, it should be warmer but this is how the dice roled this year. A couple of more frosty mornings projected so I've decided to chop them. I would prefer to give them a couple of more days but I probably cut them at a very good time nevertheless. They had a very stong and intense smell that encouraged me to cut them
They're beautiful! Soil and Sun certainly give these Panama some special kind of sheen.
Humple W.
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Question for dubi or any other experienced outdoor Panama growers: what do you look for to determine maturity and harvest readiness? Some of the red hairs are turning brown, and the trichomes appear mostly cloudy, but there are still quite a lot of white/light-pink hairs lower and deeper in the buds. Should I try to wait until almost all of the hairs, red or white, have turned brown? Should I go by trichome color and wait for a certain percentage of amber?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Hombre del mont
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Hi Humple. This is my first time round with Panama so i have no direct experience but i asume she's like others and it comes down to personal preference. I took down half of my Panama last friday (pictures etc will be my NC diary soon). She was still putting up a few white pistalls and the trichs were milky. By takig some earlier i expect a more energetic, racey and (if i'm lucky) anxiety inducing high. the rest of the plant will be left until the trichs have turned amber and i expect a much more hard hitting, stoney high. Providing the weather isn't an issue, why ot take some now, some next week and some in ?weeks.
Humple W.
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Yeah, I was thinking about a staggered harvest too. Definitely seeing a range of maturity in the buds.
Here's a lower bud that looks pretty ready.
And here's another lower bud that looks noticably less developed.
And here's the top bud I've been posting with my updates.
We got pretty damn close to a frost this morning, so I might be taking the whole thing sooner than later anyway!
Hombre del mont
Dr of Stupidity
Looking good. Intrestingly it seems the top bud is showing more red.
Do you have a loupe? It's, imho, the best way to tell ripeness.
Do you have a loupe? It's, imho, the best way to tell ripeness.
Subu
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It doesn't look like any of those buds are ready yet. If you hold out longer you'll end up with vastly more trichome development IMO.
You need to use a loupe, it's really the only way. Pistils also suggest it's not done.
edit: but also once the trichomes get cloudy provided you monitor amber levels you can let them hold out a bit longer and get further trich development
You need to use a loupe, it's really the only way. Pistils also suggest it's not done.
edit: but also once the trichomes get cloudy provided you monitor amber levels you can let them hold out a bit longer and get further trich development
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