p75 :)

[Bob Green]

anyone know whatever happened to Mr. Soul? hopefully hes alright. Do the actual princess and genius clones still exist?

Few people like Cannacopia have crosses of the Genius clone. I am pretty sure a few guys around BC like Chimera might have accsess to the original cut. I have not heard much about Princess popping up in crosses after C99. But she may be out there but heavily guarded.

 

[Bob Green]

P75 was the father of Apollo 13 = Genius x P75. Apollo 11 was Genius x C99.

 

[Stocktont]

Think they did release the C88 (Princess x P75) before they came to C99 or P94 as stated above, same time as the very few Apollo 13 seeds were made (Genius cut x P75) later they also did the A11 using a C99 male to Genius… I love the Grimm plants too, thanks for sharing!

 

[guy fawkes]

Princess and Genius were orig mums.

P75 be 75% Princess by back breeding. Not princess. C-99 be P-94 and more 'Princess' than P75.

Look up, it is there in history.

Princess 75
Type:Mostly Sativa | Origin:Holland/USA | Breeder:Mr Soul | Comment:No data
(Sk#1 x NL#5) x (Sk#1 x NL#5 x Haze)) x (Sk#1 x NL#5 x Haze) 6 seedlings are off to the races. Princess was obtained from growing out seeds found in buds of Jack Herer that was purchased in Amsterdam at the "Sensi-Smile" coffee shop, an authorized outlet of Sensi Seed Bank. Thus, it is considered to be an f2 generation Jack Herer. The seeds were found only in the deepest part of the buds indicating that the father was an unusually early-maturing JH that the growers missed at first.

Princess smells very much like pineapple both during flowering and when dried, but there's this "evil" scent in it too, like rotting meat, which has been linked with the most devastating weed (notably the Durb an/Thai hybrid from SSSC, years ago). The taste is connoisseur quality when it's cured; VERY fruity. The high is almost too intense for a lot of people. Dr. atomic actually refused to smoke any on our second meeting, after getting rather "hazed and confused" on the first sampling we did together a couple of weeks before, so he decided to try Shiva Skunk and found that more mellow and to his liking. Two hits of Princess will induce your body to tremble involuntarily and your heart to race and paranoid thoughts...very much like Haze, but not quite as intense. It also has a "creeper" quality that makes it easy to over-indu lge...you get progressively higher during the first 10 minutes after smoking.

Look at the May '98 issue of High Times' centerfold and find "Yellow Cab"...that's EXACTLY what the finished Princess buds look like. The "frosting" of stalked, capitate trichomes on the flowers and smaller leaves gives them a "furry" appearance much like Haze. Princess grows vigorously, and is rapidly maturing...6 to 7 weeks of 12/12. It feeds heavily and requires about 50% stronger nutrient solution than an Indica does. It stays short, for a Sativa-dominant strain, and finishes at about 3 ft indoors. The yield from such a plant is about 20 grams. Mr Soul has been "cubing" the clone o f Princess so the seed line will be Princess. The father is Shiva Skunk. He is currently growing out Princess.75 to obtain males for the creation of Princess.88. Seeds of the 0.88 generation will be ready by mid-July and should produce excellent plants, albeit not perfectly stable yet...but nearly. He plans to back-cross once more after that to arrive at 0.94 Princess genetics, which should be a stable, true-breeding seed line with females "replicating" Princess reliably. This strain is exactly what most people believe doesn't exist; a Sativa which grows VERY well indoors, stays short, and matures as rapidly as an Indica (faster than many), and has the great KILLER Sativa high/flavor. The yield is fine too. Mr Soul finds that the Indica strains are too leafy/stalky and much goes to waste with them, whereas Princess has an extremely high flower/leaf ratio and therefore almost no waste.

Current crop is Jack Herer x Unknown (Nickname - Jack's Heir): Seeds - I bought a 2 gram bag of Jack Herer buds (1996 Cannabis Cup winner) in Amsterdam at "Sensi Smile" coffee shop on Achterburghwal straat. The buds were supposed to be sinsemilla, but I was pleasantly surprised to find
about a dozen seeds in the bud. I found the high to be cerebral and energetic, but not too long lasting; the buds appeared almost white due to resin coating. Of the 6 seeds I attempted to germinate, every one was successful and I got a 50% male/female ratio. Seedlings - Very consistent and uniform in looks and gro wth pattern (surprising since Jack Herer is a three-way hybrid itself). Rapid growers. Typical internodal spacing for a hybrid. Appearance shows signs of both Indica and Sativa heritage. Large, broad bladed leaves, but lighter green in color than typical Indica. Somewhere in between stature.
Mother plants (J1 and J3) - Grow vigorously and bushy. J1 is the hardiest looking of the two females.
Father plants (J2 and J4) - Grow vigorously and bushy. J4 is the hardiest looking of the two males (surprisingly, this J4 grew from a seed I'd characterize as a "runt", about half the size of his siblings' seeds). Unfortunately all clones of J4 were lost and I have only a "decent" supply of pollen from his flowers.

Clones - Very quick to root (10 - 14 days) with a success rate of 90 to 100%. Several small, poorly rooted clones eventually came around and flowered nicely. Rooting occurs independent of the method used; RW cubes with pH 6 or 5.8, Rootone or not, seems to make little difference. Flo wering - Once rooted, the RW cube is buried up to it's top in a 6 inch round pot of 50% perlite 50% Hyponex Professional Soil Mix, fertilized initially with Miracle Grow 15-30-15 at 1/2 tsp. per gal of pH 6.5 water. Once looking well at 12cm tall, flowering is begun with a 12hr light/dark cycle. During the first week they "shoot" up 30 to 50cm with large fan leaves but suddenly look over-fertilized (Miracle Grow has urea-based nitrogen) with curling at the tips of the leaves. They respond virtually overnight to a good, thorough leaching with plain water, then they take on a dark green color and start to "bud out" rather than get taller. After the first week of flowering, feeding is switched to Shultz's Bloom 10-60-10 at 1/2 tsp. per gal of pH 6.5 water; I soak the pots and wait a couple days until they get lightweight before the next good soaking. Flowers appear Sativa-like and extremely resinous, except that they continue to get progressively fatter and denser, much heavier buds than the Jack Herer itself does. I would guess that the father of the seeds was a skunk or similar strain, since the calyx to leaf ratio is so high; the flowers just keep sprouting out in all directions fro m the b ud with only tiny, resin coated leaflets interspersed between flower clusters. The leaves, all but the fan leaves, are covered in stalked resin glands from base to tip. Sample smoking of immature buds which were culled (tried to flower them in RW cubes but they died) after two or three weeks of flowering proved to have a sweet, skunky taste and produced a very "happy" high, not at all paranoia-inducing. The finished product should be excellent. Currently, I have several healthy, rapidly budding clones that are in their third week of flowering and they may well finish before their eighth week. The lowest four branches of one J1 clone were selectively pollinated using the J4 male's pollen and should yield roughly 50 seeds. My hope is that these seeds will produce plants with a great variety of fine characteristics. The outstanding gene pool should ensure that, inbreeding concerns aside. Then I'll have a great breeding project: trying to select individuals for future crosses which will incorporate the best characteristics of that diverse group. - Mr Soul

Cut and paste,

this is what im told i have, i get lost off the breeding side of things, all the various terminologies put me off lol

 

[ScrifflyPimp]

. Mr Soul has been "cubing" the clone o f Princess so the seed line will be Princess. The father is Shiva Skunk. He is currently growing out Princess.75 to obtain males for the creation of Princess.88.

Princess.75 is from Princes x Skunk

Like I say above.

 

[guy fawkes]

Princess.75 is from Princes x Skunk

Like I say above.

cool, long as its dank i dont care

 

[dimodz]

here some pics from P75 princess clone with run OD some years ago


BuD

Side nug

small Bonzai mum

marco

another view

if you like see more pics here is link to my album

https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=32764

 

[ScrifflyPimp]

cool, long as its dank i dont care

yum!

 

[guy fawkes]

here some pics from P75 princess clone with run OD some years ago


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Side nug

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small Bonzai mum

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marco

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if you like see more pics here is link to my album

https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=32764

very nice mate, look at the stem on that bonsi mom.. chunky fucker! dose she smoke as well as they say?

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

It's called Princess 75 because it's 75 percent Princess, the first back cross to the Princess clone. (Princess x (Princess x Shiva)).

Good find guy, tagged for this one.

Peace

 

[guy fawkes]

It's called Princess 75 because it's 75 percent Princess, the first back cross to the Princess clone. (Princess x (Princess x Shiva)).

Good find guy, tagged for this one.

Peace[/QUOTEa

ah that makes more sense now, cheers mate, will update pic in few days.

 

[Bob Green]

A Cinderella Story
As told by Mr. Soul of the now defunct Brothers Grimm
Cinderella’s Story begins in 1997, when I discovered a few surprising seeds in a bud of Jack Herer (a Sensi strain named after the famous hemp activist) that I bought from the Sensi Smile coffeeshop. I wasn’t really expecting much when I grew them, but one of those seeds produced an undeniably special female. I called her “Princess”.

I’d also bought some seeds on purpose during the same trip to Sensi Smile, and from these I got a few more promising females and several males. I used pollen from one of these males on a heavy yielding, dense, resinous Shiva Skunk female from Sensi Seedbank, then used the resulting seeds t grow a crew of males worthy of crossing with Princess.

At this point, I began the cubing process. I crossed one of the males with Princess, making seeds that were 50% Princess, or P50. I then used males that grew from this batch of P50 seeds to backcross with the original Princess, creating a P74 (75% Princess) batch f seeds. I again backcrossed the original Princess with pollen from a P75 male to get a P88, then once more to get a P94, which is “Cinderella”, a cubed version of Princess.

Aside from her stability, Cindy 99 stand out because she finishes flowering in under 60 days, like an indica. but delivers a delicious and pleasurable sativa high. This makes her attractive to both commercial grower and the cannabis connoisseur.

 

[Bob Green]

Awesome score Guy! If you could only get your hands on the original Genius cut you could reverse your P75 and make Apollo 13 fems.

 

[Bmac1]

I was given a grip of 20 or so Jack Herrer F2 a years back and was told to not expect much. This makes me want to have a look through them.

 

[dimodz]

very nice mate, look at the stem on that bonsi mom.. chunky fucker! dose she smoke as well as they say?

thanks mate,

yeah i like the smoke too, very mooth, fruty and activate u

to shame that i lost the princess 75, maybe one day she come to my hand back

best vibez
D

 

[SPG.]

Thought ya Meant P.75! ..like Page 75 ...."Thought WT*", lol

 

[guy fawkes]

I was given a grip of 20 or so Jack Herrer F2 a years back and was told to not expect much. This makes me want to have a look through them.

got for it mate, theres gold in them there beans! old skool jack kicks ass in all form anyway imo so you cant fail

 

[stihgnobevoli]

It's called Princess 75 because it's 75 percent Princess, the first back cross to the Princess clone. (Princess x (Princess x Shiva)).

Good find guy, tagged for this one.

Peace

ah that makes more sense now, cheers mate, will update pic in few days.

didn't you even bother to read the Mr.Soul quote you posted?

anyway good thread i'm watching, i got a p.75xortega male going. gotta pop more seeds to find a girl.

 

[guy fawkes]

didn't you even bother to read the Mr.Soul quote you posted?

anyway good thread i'm watching, i got a p.75xortega male going. gotta pop more seeds to find a girl.

yes i did thank you ! as i stated before i got confused with the terminology used and my wires crossed. or didnt you bother to read that post

 

[idiit]

p 75 was souls first backcross of princess, which was just some seed from some jack herrer from a shop in amsterdam.

P75 = Princess Squared or Princess bx1
C88 = Princess Hexed or Princess bx2
C99 = Princess Cubed or Princess bx3
A13 = P75xGenius
A11=C99xGenius

too early for me. is this^ correct?

^ link





i'm doing a preservation run on a-13 right now for another ic member.

there was a lot of genetic separation; indica, skunks, haze. no strong nl looking phenos so far. i'm also doing a northern lights preservation run for him . i'm not using the indica phenos. the skunks look to have some indica influence but not much.

one of the skunk looking females is awesome looking. exceptionally frosty. the trim leaf is getting a silverish appearance.

got one "purer haze" a-13 haze looking male pollen stored in freezer and have another a-13 haze seedling (looking like it's indicating male but too early to know) that looks like it has maybe some skunk in him. these will be the breeder males. still have some un-popped a-13 beans for further work.

the strain holder i'm doing the work for says that some a-13 phenos were so powerful and trippy that ppl thought he had adulterated the bud with some foreign substance and this guy has some very potent genetics (for reference).

the frosty skunk looking pheno is very special appearance wise.

i'm very enthused so far. very old, relatively unworked a-13 gems await.

guy, i'm wid you . exciting genetics.