Outdoor workhorse strains > 53 lat

[Ca++]

Dear OP. I hear every word you are saying, and have experienced the same, with the same. At 53 in the EU.

Critical Sour. A very bushy plant with many smaller nugs, that have a quite indoor appearance. I have quicker, and I have bigger, but this is the plant that comes down, when everything else has failed. That is it's job in my collection, which is a selection from 30 years outdoor, with up to 7 sites on some years.
If you get a good start, then the first real rains (10th September) are a good time to fetch it. That's if you have others to fetch. If you are still working in late September, it's well and truly done.

I never even got a spliff from all them semi strains. Plants looked really good, but even the little bits were gone. The lot got trampled in disgust. Fully auto just hasn't been good at all. The serious 6 is worth a look, but only if you can do a selection one year, and keep a mum for the following. On a good year, it's great. However, it's usually a huge head for pics, that goes in the bin due to rot. After which, the yield is similar to the crit sour. Averaging 5oz on a good site.

 

[Calle Minogue]

Again : Ultra early Love , it’s also called king of the north. I crossed her last year with a Bald man Lala Nepali male.. This year I harvested 3 girls end of September..

Is it cake ?

 

[Normannen]

Dear OP. I hear every word you are saying, and have experienced the same, with the same. At 53 in the EU.

Critical Sour. A very bushy plant with many smaller nugs, that have a quite indoor appearance. I have quicker, and I have bigger, but this is the plant that comes down, when everything else has failed. That is it's job in my collection, which is a selection from 30 years outdoor, with up to 7 sites on some years.
If you get a good start, then the first real rains (10th September) are a good time to fetch it. That's if you have others to fetch. If you are still working in late September, it's well and truly done.

I never even got a spliff from all them semi strains. Plants looked really good, but even the little bits were gone. The lot got trampled in disgust. Fully auto just hasn't been good at all. The serious 6 is worth a look, but only if you can do a selection one year, and keep a mum for the following. On a good year, it's great. However, it's usually a huge head for pics, that goes in the bin due to rot. After which, the yield is similar to the crit sour. Averaging 5oz on a good site.

So much for experimenting, this is a pretty solid conclusion xD

 

[Normannen]

Again : Ultra early Love , it’s also called king of the north. I crossed her last year with a Bald man Lala Nepali male.. This year I harvested 3 girls end of September..

Is it cake ?

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The cake is a lie, only Pi is real

 

[Calle Minogue]

next season I will pop my best UEL seeds and select the best to cross it both ways to my last Nepali IBL seeds This cross I will definitely repro and bred further! Outstanding outdoor buds.
Project F2 was ruined by a damaged fridge outside this year.

If I am not mistaken both are available on cannapot ! Not as IBL but with more phenos UEL seems easy to select but the Nepali was a repro in Himalayan mountains with OP could be fun to put the effort to select..

 

[Asentrouw]

Most modern autoflowering strains will be ok. You sow in early June and harvest in early September.

Photoperiod strain x auto strains are not much faster than photoperiod strains, maybe 1-2 weeks, that's not much.

P.S
If you post photos of your plants with the date, please also provide the latitude where you grow them. Someone will sow a given strain because they saw that it was ripe on September 10, but then it turned out that that crop was 10 degrees lower in latitude and will achieve the same effect a month later

I tried some commercial auto's in the past, but some of these just rot away in my climate as early as july. Some did pretty well, but overall gave quite low yields.

I like the semi-auto's (sensitive photo's) more as they grow a bit bigger, but still finish on time. Most are bred and grown here in the North, so these are already adjusted to the climate.

Never bothered for the "fast" and "early" versions (photo x auto) though. I rather take the gamble and wait the extra 2 weeks.

You are right about the lattitudes. I think adaptation to where the plants are bred also plays a part. Since all Dutch seedshops moved to Spain for legal reasons, most of their so-called "outdoor" genetics (some brands excluded) are utter shit. They are usually much too late and real mold magnets.

 

[Asentrouw]

Again : Ultra early Love , it’s also called king of the north. I crossed her last year with a Bald man Lala Nepali male.. This year I harvested 3 girls end of September..

Is it cake ?

That's a stunning lady there.

I found and ordered some repro's of some of Da Bean co. genetics and also a UEL selection, called Ultra Early Sativa, at Seedheaven. So that one I'm certainly going to try.

 

[Calle Minogue]

Ultra Early Sativa

Yes this is the one I mentioned. The guy who made it is legit please quote me next year I can help you with the phenos and I am interested in everything with UEL The lemon smell is amazing.

 

[Ca++]

I think this is the sour, at 53

Early September

Late September, on the right

The center plant is the 6

 

[Normannen]

Thinking about those that live at 69...

 

[Ca++]

Reading the bikini thread again?

 

[Normannen]

Reading the bikini thread again?

Well, thanks for the tip, I will now ^^ BTW what's the effect of the sour?

 

[Asentrouw]

Dear OP. I hear every word you are saying, and have experienced the same, with the same. At 53 in the EU.

Critical Sour. A very bushy plant with many smaller nugs, that have a quite indoor appearance. I have quicker, and I have bigger, but this is the plant that comes down, when everything else has failed. That is it's job in my collection, which is a selection from 30 years outdoor, with up to 7 sites on some years.
If you get a good start, then the first real rains (10th September) are a good time to fetch it. That's if you have others to fetch. If you are still working in late September, it's well and truly done.

That's some nice bushes you grown there.

This Critical Sour is the "(Morocco x Grapefruit) x ((Auto NL x Auto NL) x Auto Critical)"?

It's always a gamble with the rain here. Sometimes the high season (june/july) can be quite wet. But it certainly looks worth a try.

 

[browntrout]

The GG2 definitely has some susceptibility to mold and leaf rust. However with the right mother it throws its early trigger and not much else. Especially when you get two breedings away from GG2. Purple flowered plants and terpinolene carrying plants seem to be the best in mold resistance that I’ve noticed. But we really need that early trigger and finish to get ahead.

GG3 not as early, the GG3x2 is a very nice hashplant however with a bit less mold but later.

Another one that surprised me a lot was CSI ‘79 Xmas bud. It’s early, very mold resistant with extremely tight round indica buds but very inbred. I tested a Xmas Bud x A5 Haze S1 / GG2 and all though a fair bit later then the mom it came out beautifully with an Xmas bud dominance. I’m gonna grow some more of the hybrids I’ve made. The Xmas bud also has terpinolene…

 

[Ca++]

That's some nice bushes you grown there.

This Critical Sour is the "(Morocco x Grapefruit) x ((Auto NL x Auto NL) x Auto Critical)"?

It's always a gamble with the rain here. Sometimes the high season (june/july) can be quite wet. But it certainly looks worth a try.

That's the one.
I just looked it up, and was surprised to see it list indoor times, as it's outdoor only. However, myself and I think a diary writer here have done it indoors. It's faster and yields better than they claim at leafie.

The KC33&36 seemed hardy, but also seemed like oldskool outdoor. I did them a few years.

I like the smoke of the crit-sour. It's that lighter coloured weed, with a taste that's more in line with the grapefruit, than northern. It's not like northern, at all. Though the flavours are more like a sativa lover would go after, it's hit is to the sedate side of things. Quite complex, with no single outstanding feature. Strength was adequate, judged beside other indoor plants. Which is good, for a plant bred to survive our climate, not perform indoors.

 

[Popey]

In fact if your growing at a higher latitude the plants will mature sooner because the day light hours are dropping faster. The plant will respond to shorter days quicker

That's not true The same strain planted in Spain will mature much earlier than, for example, in Germany. It's obvious, there's no need to check. Others have already checked this a long time ago

 

[Asentrouw]

In a lot of older guerilla reports I come by a lot of crosses X Early Wonder Skunk. Seems to be used as the GG line, to make strains earlier.

Anyone has experience with this strain? How early is it? Is it mold resistant? Potency?

I have some seeds lying around of the non-auto version of it, but did not grow them out yet.

 

[Old Piney]

That's not true The same strain planted in Spain will mature much earlier than, for example, in Germany. It's obvious, there's no need to check. Others have already checked this a long time ago

Not convinced I believe it will be roughly the same time. show me !

 

[Ca++]

Not convinced I believe it will be roughly the same time. show me !

What is the longest day, on the equator.

 

[Asentrouw]

That's not true The same strain planted in Spain will mature much earlier than, for example, in Germany. It's obvious, there's no need to check. Others have already checked this a long time ago

Auto's excluded, it has to do with lighthours and lightsensitivety of the strains. The higher lattitude you go, the earlier the lighthours drop end of the year.

That's why Danish strains are great in the Netherlands, because they are very early in our climate. But many strains that do well in Spain, are much to late for here.

So my guess would be it is the other way around. The plants just have more time to mature in Spain as they would in Germany.