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Outdoor workhorse strains > 53 lat

Asentrouw

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I'm constantly looking for some real workhorse strains for the Northern Climate.

Basically I'm looking for strains I can put straight on a guerilla spot and that are able to finish without any tending. This means they must be quite quick, able to withstand draught and rainy weather and be resistant against mold and pests. Eventually I want to use these genetics to cross it into a potent strain that fits my area.

Ofcourse I know Esbe/HFH strains and tried many of them with mixed results. Overall good strains for my climate. Same with other Danish breeders > I'm still looking to find Oldfarmer Nepal and Leb for my collection.

Some Swiss stuff like Erdbeer and Maroc Inspiration were also quite good.

I also heard great stories about the (Cabadian?) "Da Bean co./Unleash the Green", but not sure where to find these genetics. I'm especially looking for Brickwood, Auto Affie and Charger. Would be great if anybody knows if they are preserved and where to get them.

I tried several of the Guerilla Golds (#1/#2), but these were quite sensitive to mold. Didn't really match the descriptions. Same goes for most of the oldschool Dutch genetics (Hollands Hope, Purple Power, Durban), which are probably bred in Spain or something these days (usually late, mold issues, etc.).

Also had some very good results with hardy landrace strains, although most are too late for this lat. But all recommedations are welcome, as I want to cross them anyhow.

So if you have any recommedations for good workhorse strains that fit the northern climate and where to get them, please give a heads up!
 

Creeperpark

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I'm constantly looking for some real workhorse strains for the Northern Climate.

Basically I'm looking for strains I can put straight on a guerilla spot and that are able to finish without any tending. This means they must be quite quick, able to withstand draught and rainy weather and be resistant against mold and pests. Eventually I want to use these genetics to cross it into a potent strain that fits my area.

Ofcourse I know Esbe/HFH strains and tried many of them with mixed results. Overall good strains for my climate. Same with other Danish breeders > I'm still looking to find Oldfarmer Nepal and Leb for my collection.

Some Swiss stuff like Erdbeer and Maroc Inspiration were also quite good.

I also heard great stories about the (Cabadian?) "Da Bean co./Unleash the Green", but not sure where to find these genetics. I'm especially looking for Brickwood, Auto Affie and Charger. Would be great if anybody knows if they are preserved and where to get them.

I tried several of the Guerilla Golds (#1/#2), but these were quite sensitive to mold. Didn't really match the descriptions. Same goes for most of the oldschool Dutch genetics (Hollands Hope, Purple Power, Durban), which are probably bred in Spain or something these days (usually late, mold issues, etc.).

Also had some very good results with hardy landrace strains, although most are too late for this lat. But all recommedations are welcome, as I want to cross them anyhow.

So if you have any recommedations for good workhorse strains that fit the northern climate and where to get them, please give a heads up!
Check out ACEs forum and ask dubi what he thinks.
 

Ultramarin

Active member
I'm constantly looking for some real workhorse strains for the Northern Climate.

Basically I'm looking for strains I can put straight on a guerilla spot and that are able to finish without any tending. This means they must be quite quick, able to withstand draught and rainy weather and be resistant against mold and pests. Eventually I want to use these genetics to cross it into a potent strain that fits my area.

Ofcourse I know Esbe/HFH strains and tried many of them with mixed results. Overall good strains for my climate. Same with other Danish breeders > I'm still looking to find Oldfarmer Nepal and Leb for my collection.

Some Swiss stuff like Erdbeer and Maroc Inspiration were also quite good.

I also heard great stories about the (Cabadian?) "Da Bean co./Unleash the Green", but not sure where to find these genetics. I'm especially looking for Brickwood, Auto Affie and Charger. Would be great if anybody knows if they are preserved and where to get them.

I tried several of the Guerilla Golds (#1/#2), but these were quite sensitive to mold. Didn't really match the descriptions. Same goes for most of the oldschool Dutch genetics (Hollands Hope, Purple Power, Durban), which are probably bred in Spain or something these days (usually late, mold issues, etc.).

Also had some very good results with hardy landrace strains, although most are too late for this lat. But all recommedations are welcome, as I want to cross them anyhow.

So if you have any recommedations for good workhorse strains that fit the northern climate and where to get them, please give a heads up!

I'm constantly looking for some real workhorse strains for the Northern Climate.

Basically I'm looking for strains I can put straight on a guerilla spot and that are able to finish without any tending. This means they must be quite quick, able to withstand draught and rainy weather and be resistant against mold and pests. Eventually I want to use these genetics to cross it into a potent strain that fits my area.

Ofcourse I know Esbe/HFH strains and tried many of them with mixed results. Overall good strains for my climate. Same with other Danish breeders > I'm still looking to find Oldfarmer Nepal and Leb for my collection.

Some Swiss stuff like Erdbeer and Maroc Inspiration were also quite good.

I also heard great stories about the (Cabadian?) "Da Bean co./Unleash the Green", but not sure where to find these genetics. I'm especially looking for Brickwood, Auto Affie and Charger. Would be great if anybody knows if they are preserved and where to get them.

I tried several of the Guerilla Golds (#1/#2), but these were quite sensitive to mold. Didn't really match the descriptions. Same goes for most of the oldschool Dutch genetics (Hollands Hope, Purple Power, Durban), which are probably bred in Spain or something these days (usually late, mold issues, etc.).

Also had some very good results with hardy landrace strains, although most are too late for this lat. But all recommedations are welcome, as I want to cross them anyhow.

So if you have any recommedations for good workhorse strains that fit the northern climate and where to get them, please give a heads up!
i still have some old danish nepali seeds flying around somewhere. if you like to get them for free, just send me a pm! i also have some other, much more potent variants which will finish first week of october at your latitude...
 

Asentrouw

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Some other discontinued outdoor strains I'm on the lookout for and like to know peoples experiences with:

Nadia (Froebanken)
UK08 (Froebanken)
Kaya Gold (Nirvana)
Santa Maria (No Mercy seeds)
Killing Fields (S#nn#)
Heribei (S#nn#)
Purple Power (Positronics)
Purple Peace (Positronics)
Mata Hari (Basic seeds)
Oregon Rocket (Basic seeds)
ADH47 (Chaz)
Hi'Noon (Bluehemp)
 
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Old Piney

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I've grown Morrocan Beldia a landrace available through Ace seeds and Khalifa genetics as well. Mine is from Khalifa it's super early (semi-auto) apparently with a long history of drought resistance and I can attest it's mold-resistant as well. It's tough as nails its only down fault is it not very strong but it's mild high is lovely and it has a wonderful smell. This might be a good plant for you to work with
 

Asentrouw

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I've grown Morrocan Beldia a landrace available through Ace seeds and Khalifa genetics as well. Mine is from Khalifa it's super early (semi-auto) apparently with a long history of drought resistance and I can attest it's mold-resistant as well. It's tough as nails its only down fault is it not very strong but it's mild high is lovely and it has a wonderful smell. This might be a good plant for you to work with
Yes, I like the Maroc too. Early and resistant, sometimes some mold issues, but overall a great strain outdoors. Tried Maroc Inspiration (Blue Hemp) and (Purple) Maroc (Female Seeds) in the past, very nice and pretty potent plants. I have some TRSC Rif mountain seeds (Ketama) waiting for next season.

Getaway Mountain Seeds has some interesting strains by the looks of it.
 

Popey

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I would have understood this question 20 years ago but not now.

Now they are strong (stronger than e.g. Danish strains) and high-yielding autoflowering strains, so it is not worth planting photoperiod strains in such latitudes and praying for them to mature.
 

Normannen

Anne enn Normal
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I would have understood this question 20 years ago but not now.

Now they are strong (stronger than e.g. Danish strains) and high-yielding autoflowering strains, so it is not worth planting photoperiod strains in such latitudes and praying for them to mature.
I think it still is a pertinent question, i'm sure there is an old thread or two with the exact same question, but if no one bumps them I guess the same question is bound to arise.
besides, it might be important to actually do the work of selection for photoperiod northern strains....just because you have no use of them does not mean someone might not need it.
 

laszlokovacs

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7east Genetics The Kraken & Grape Dragon& Cherry Dragon have all done exceptionally well for me outdoors. However theyre all regs so will need to be sexed

Look at the breeder's site they have tons of stuff and some bred for outdoor all in Canada, 53N should work with a fair amount of stuff.

The Kraken
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Cherry Dragon
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Top Two Images are from september 17 last year

Plants that went longer dealt with the cold well- at least 10 plants in the plot got hit with 3 or so hard frosts in october with 0 dying. Buds got covered in ice at one point w no ill effects- forgot what this was but definitely 7east stuff
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Asentrouw

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I would have understood this question 20 years ago but not now.

Now they are strong (stronger than e.g. Danish strains) and high-yielding autoflowering strains, so it is not worth planting photoperiod strains in such latitudes and praying for them to mature.
I'm not very familiar with auto's, but the ones I tried didn't tickle me. Superauto's I thought were more interesting, but always seemed unstable and took as long as photo's. Maybe I should look into it more.

Strength is not the biggest concern for me. I use occasionally and have a low tolerance. I'm a hobbyist, not commercial. So many of the modern "weed on steroids" knockout strains are simply too much for me.

For me the quality of the high/stone and taste are much more interesting. Other strains give fluffy shitty buds and may not be overly potent, but make the greatest hashishs.

I agree that many outdoor strains and some pheno's give shitty quality. But there are also many gems to be found in there. Many of which are discontinued.

Gems that probably are not to be found in the "superpotent dime a dozen" strains of today. So I think despite the ruderalis/auto revolution, its always good to keep the oldschool outdoor genetics going.
 
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Popey

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@laszlokovacs, at what latitude did you grow these 2 strains?

7east Genetics comes from Havelock in Canada and they probably provide the ripening time of their outdoor strains from this area. Havelock is 44N. They state on their website that their varieties usually harvest between October 1-15. October 1-15 on ~44N. Good luck growing on 53N


@Normannen when it comes to Nordic strains, I grew Thyphoon, Leb27, Royal Nepal and several others. Everything had shitty potency. Possibly GG, but it is very leafy and, surprisingly, it gets moldy easily. I can only recommend Mighty Freeze.

Outdoor strains from Female Seeds or Dutch Passion such as Maroc, Easy Sativa, Durban Poison, Passion and others will not mature at the right time. My brother grew it at 52N, it ripened only on October 15-30.

I still think that auto are the best option for this latitude ;) Regards.
 
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bigbouncykev

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real gorilla seeds have some reliable genetics for northern climates.specifically bred for the uk. im going to be putting out some real gorilla seeds. people have had success with humboldt seed organisation fast versions in the uk also, white runtz, ice cream cake and peanut butter breath. im gonna have a crack at those along with some purple satellite and green mountain grape. ive also got some delicious seeds early versions to try out next season. ive got autos im going to put out and people seem to have some decent success with serious 6 and 7 so I think ill take at crack at those also. I think its good to get some things out that are bred for the environment and then take a little gamble with some plants because you never know what you may find and you can be surprised at what makes it sometimes. or you can turn up to your plots and everything is mouldy lol
 

Ultramarin

Active member
@laszlokovacs, at what latitude did you grow these 2 strains?

7east Genetics comes from Havelock in Canada and they probably provide the ripening time of their outdoor strains from this area. Havelock is 44N. They state on their website that their varieties usually harvest between October 1-15. October 1-15 on ~44N. Good luck growing on 53N


@Normannen when it comes to Nordic strains, I grew Thyphoon, Leb27, Royal Nepal and several others. Everything had shitty potency. Possibly GG, but it is very leafy and, surprisingly, it gets moldy easily. I can only recommend Mighty Freeze.

Outdoor strains from Female Seeds or Dutch Passion such as Maroc, Easy Sativa, Durban Poison, Passion and others will not mature at the right time. My brother grew it at 52N, it ripened only on October 15-30.

I still think that auto are the best option for this latitude ;) Regards.
i have had the same experiences with danish "classics"; the earlier they finish, the worse the effect. however, i wouldn't say that it necessarily has to be autos up here in the north. it always depends on the weather conditions at the beginning of autumn. when i came here (55N, coastal), i tried various supposed 'indoor types,' and simply kept the best plants for the next years through cloning. surprisingly, an old dutch commercial clone of white widow has proven to be the best so far, especially in terms of cold and, above all, mold resistance.
anyways, autos for sure make sense in combination with photos, as they allow for a reasonably secure harvest before the photos might end up molding...
 
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