Outdoor growing & Security measures

[sm0kateer4204]

i odnt really understand the idea of doing scrog outdoors unless your trying to keep plants below a privacy fence, scrog works great for indoors to maximize yeild but in reality if you have plants at the site now and you take care of them they will in turn pull large amounts of weed. thats one thing about outdoor you never have to worry about yeild, i'd prefer a 10 foot chrismas tree, because if you scorgged a plant that grew at the same rate of a 10 foot chrismas tree it would be 10 feet wide and 5 feet high instead of 10 high and 5 feet wide. so i odnt see any advantages, maybe a bit more yeild but you'd be visiting that plant every week training it which would become too much work and a security issue.

 

[dizzydauno]

.canine.; I will definetly be using the bailing wire to create the scrog screen. The only thing I was thinking was to setup posts to run the wires through it so it would be sturdy. Example would be; Stick some sticks into the ground, not to big, maybe 4 or so enough to form a box. Then run the bailing wire through those criss-coss like shoelaces until it becomes a scrog screen. But I didn't want any wood to be there in the first place cause of the visibility factor. So I might use those green colored plastic pieces that lots of people use to tie against vegetable plants so they don't fall over. Donno..any other ideas?

Another thing, I was thinking would I have to be adjusting this SCROG screen as the grow goes along or can I leave it at one position throughout the whole grow? I was thinking about setting it maybe 2 feet high on one side and have it leaning downward slope fashion to about 1 foot. So the plants can get plenty of sun with the screen being a bit slope-sided. But would that much height be enough?

PHL8T ME; Donno if I did a typo or not, but I can be there more often than just once a month. I was there just yesterday and stayed there for 3 days to inspect and draw out some new diagrams. Hmm, that idea sounds good but I was looking for something that would be a permanent structure that wouldn't have to be adjusted or create much of a hassle later on once it is setup. That is why I prefer this SCROG method more than anything, plus, I always wanted to try it out.

sm0kateer4204; My main reason for using a scrog screen outdoors is for security. So if anything, with a scrog screen and maybe the camo hanging off the sides it wouldn't resemble anything close to a herb plant from the choppers that are flying around. Thats the only reason I want to keep em growing low and don't have a problem with them taking up more width than height. Cause that way they will fill up the screen nicely and with the camo it wouldn't be to evident of what it is. Well, thats what I'm hoping for.

Hmm, right now I'm stuck designing the whole thing and putting it into action. If someone else has any creative ideas that I could possible adapt into this whole project it would be interesting to hear so POST IT UP!

Massive thanks to everyone who replied and stay tuned to see the final episode.

 

[dizzydauno]

*bump* No one has any other ideas?

 

[Gantz]

well...you did say "stay tuned". we're just waiting to see what you're going to do.

 

[BruceLeeroy]

what sort of indigenous foliage are we talking about? certain types of flora will hide it much better than other types. for instance in northern or high altitudes, many deciduous trees will lose leaf color and leaves before your plants are ready to pull. same with many types of bushes. this is bad, as you'll be left with some outstandingly vivid green plants surrounded by yellows and oranges and reds. looks much like a bulls-eye. if they're surrounded by pines of various flavors and juniper bushes and other evergreens, they'll stick out MUCH less. another key is to not plant in any kind of symetrical arrangement. don't put out 5 rows of 4 plants. think nature, and plant randomly. not sure what your background foliage is like down there in california though so other than that not alot i can help you with. also make sure you take different routes to and from the plants, as a worn trail (only takes three or four passes on the same ground) will be clearly visible from the air.

peace

 

[PHL8T ME]

Just a thought, hoped it would help dude. Heres another thought though, I know you have your spot picked, so this is for others. Have any of you seen a x-mas tree farm near? the edges of these are awsome, just be aware that these tree get pruned in the spring to encourage full growth. Some parts of the country even spray for bug and such but not all.

 

[trybud]

i LST my bigger plants and in early aug i raid every 2nd hand store i can find for their fake flowers..i use horiculture wire to fix them randomly around on plant paying no attention to colors/shapes im using......i actually went up in a chopper when i lived near napa,CA and from my altitude i looked like wildflowers.....another thing is plant near blackberries or manzanita cuz the colors from the air are pretty similar....maybe even xmas ornaments?

 

[glock23]

do you have a water source nearby? if those girls get big, you might have to haul water to 'em...i know you mentioned a stream...is it big enough to collect water from? will it dry out?

 

[lester gas]

Dizz! have used chicken wire for decades and the trick to it is a quick coat of flat black paint. Spray it into the roll(away from your soil) and use quality paint like rustoleum brand so it dont come off and polute the ground. After you unroll some wire the flat black gets thinner and thats fine- its just to knock down the glare. Have tried green and brown and tan but black is better the wire just disappears. Weave a few small branches of twigs in there and from the air it will look like brush; but wont block out sunlight. Leo is trained to spot camo net and alot of these cowboys are ex military and know what it looks like any way. Also, produce abunch of seed and sea-of-green the patch and they wont see that christmas tree shape from the air. The yield will amaze! A little topping will help the piglets to miss yer patch as well. good luck.

 

[lester gas]

One other thought: see how your patch looks from the air. Google offers a free satelite mapping sevice but i use the version that costs $20\year. If i look at my house and barn and yard (for example) i can see everything from what looks like maybe 600 feet up in the air. The fine details are not there. they save that for the gubmint to use, but you still get a rough idea if a big or solid patch stands out. The more expensive service brings you more detail im told but i havent tried it. Thanks google!