Origin of beady/pearly bud pheno (Dr. Grinspoon, quaze)

[Cerebralfluid]

I also think it is a logical fallacy to assume that this expression can only occur in one genetic line.... what about convergent evolution? Bats and birds both have wings etc etc
Just cause they look alike doesn't mean that they are related right?
Edit: i am now seeing that barney's used a picture of quaze to advertise the grinspoon, so that's interesting

 

[Dentex]

Ohaze .Not as potent as her normie sisters but not hay by a long shot...

 

[RandyCalifornia]

...quaze was/is a IC member who many years ago posted several pics of a very interesting bag seed find...those pics have been removed from the site but it was a classic Perl pheno, same as pics used by barneys farm.......

I thought I remembered that from OG, back in early 2k.
I been trying to find a pheno like this ever since I saw those pics.

 

[teide]

Ohaze .Not as potent as her normie sisters but not hay by a long shot...

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That is just awesome!

 

[Hammerhead]

Pearl phenos are def from NLD genetics IMO. Here's some from @VerdantGreen bluedigiberry F3. The pearl trait came from Dutch Passion Blueberry..

Bluedigiberry f3

Thanks @Sub24ox7 - they look lovely! .. glad you've found all to have Blueberry terps. Quite a range of it like you say but i found the same thing.... and as mine dry it seems the BB terps are getting stronger against the others . VG :tiphat:

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[mack 10]

Ohaze .Not as potent as her normie sisters but not hay by a long shot...

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wow, thats a creeper! should be good hash strain.
grinspoon bead pheno dumped on the wash.

is that one plant?

and i had a bead pheno from Juicy Fruit f2's i made.
so it could come from the Affie side ?
{juicy fruit = thai x afghani, (sensi never revealed which one they used}

 

[Hammerhead]

wow, thats a creeper! should be good hash strain.
grinspoon bead pheno dumped on the wash.

is that one plant?

and i had a bead pheno from Juicy Fruit f2's i made.
so it could come from the Affie side ?
{juicy fruit = thai x afghani, (sensi never revealed which one they used}

Not likely.. IMO it was from the Thai..

 

[Dentex]

is that one plant?

Yes one plant

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Greetings from México

Man I really miss this strain, it was one of the first seeds of a seed bank I grew.

I was a novice grower with just a few crops on me. Fortunately I live in a place with one of the best climates in Mexico so despite the very long flowering, the plants grew without any setbacks under a kind subtropical sun, almost like vines, they were pearl phenotypes.

I was younger then, so maybe my memories are manipulated by nostalgia, I remember in the cultivation process I was really disappointed by the production and the fragility of the structure. .

But when it was time to smoke it, the taste was excellent, and the effect was super cerebral and instantaneous and made my train of thought venture to places I would not have imagined at high speed. and it also had an excellent "spiritual" effect. So I didn't know how to clone but I kept some reproductions for several years until I lost it.

Ugh if someone keeps these seeds we can exchange happily.

Chischas, another Mexican grower told me here that the old version of cannabiogen's destroyer in its more Thai phenotype also has very similar characteristics.

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Wow, it looks just like the original grinspoon photos..
We see stronger support of the Neville haze theory as this thread progresses. No doubt in my mind.

Well, I'm not an expert, but I grew neville haze from greenhouse (yes, I already know that Mr Nice's are supposed to be the best) and dr grinspoon from barneys and despite both being very long flowering, neither in the phenotypes of the plants, neither in the flavors nor in the effects were similar. Even the non-pearl phenotype of the grinspoon had less dense and thin flowers, the flavor of the neville haze was very piney, while the grinspoon pearl had a flavor that I don't really know how to describe, but delicious, the effect of the Neville, although very powerful and sometimes even a little scary, did not take me to the same depths of thought as the grinspoon and above all he was not as clean

 

[bajode5]

Original Haze x Oaxaca Gold

 

[Piff_cat]

Original Haze x Oaxaca Gold
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damn got yourself some demon latcher super jealous. in my opinion oaxcans throw this type the most including the mother of these seeds is just crazy. obviously the mex had to come from somwhere before arriving in the new world. theres a thai strain called snake teeth and i also have this outback haze x vietnam doing something similar. i think taking these resin profiles of no yield and finding a male which increaesd production without touching the high would be grail stuff. where else could u see resin like that lol

 

[Doctorgrinspoon]

Quaze, one of the Quaze brothers from Amsterdam found it, than sold it to Derry.
he doesnt know what it is, but his guess was Oxacana or other Mexi.

 

[Doctorgrinspoon]

No Quaze in Destroyer, and I just got 2 pearl phenos I harvested not long ago. Also when it rains it pours, I found a seed in my favorite HolyHanh and it is also a pearl pheno, still growing.
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HolyHanh s1? Already starting to show resin coating on leaves, stems, flowers.
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Amazing bro

 

[Doctorgrinspoon]

Isn't it pretty certain that grinspoon IS señor garcia, considering that reef was the breeder for barney's farm?

nah

 

[Doctorgrinspoon]

Without a doubt Barney's farm is rather infamous for taking other peoples' genetics and doing runs of them. A lot of Reeferman's claims about Barney are speculative, but others, like the pink kush, are pretty obvious. where did that charles scott quote come from?
Ace also sells a strain called malari that looked promising for this. been meaning to say something for a minute, they just rereleased it.
If I had to guess, I would say that since there is an even longer known history to cannabis being used for fibre then as a drug/medicine, that it is either from interbreeding with strictly fibre producing varieties, or is the result of coselection, as many cultivated landraces in their indigenous areas are known to be grown for multiple purposes including for use of fibre and resin.
Stoked to see how this turns out, would love to fill some hills with these strains. If you get an early flowering pearl pheno with odd leaves, it should not only be incredibly discrete, but it will also be virtually mold free no matter where it is grown, especially with freakshow leaves, as opposed to the abc/subterfuge. could honestly landrace here very quickly if it was allowed

Indeed, Derry got it from the Quaze brothers.

 

[Doctorgrinspoon]

Quaze from the good old days

 

[teide]

Amazing plant

 

[ojd]

Loved the quaze in Amsterdam , that was along time ago sold/called the quaze in Amsterdam.

Didn't the quaze guy say it was a Nevil Haze pheno back then ?.
Smoked very similar and was 1 of the best Sativa's since the Nevil Haze disappeared years before.

Love the pearl types myself , very exotic terps and super clean High , maybe Cleanest I've ever had is from a pearl type pheno from Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil.

you get a pearl pheno show up occasionally in Nevil's new work in the NH21 x Mullumbimby Madness project strains , and in the strain I made Swiss Thai Nevil x SSSDH.
I then took the pearl pheno and x it with Chem d Madness Male ( Chem d x NH21 x Mullumbimby Madness)

50% off this seed pack (for any icmag.com members)I call it Chem d Spoon Regular seed( I was calling the pearl pheno a Gringspoon type looking pheno so named it Chem d Spoon)

If you grown posted a pearl type in this thread or on icmag.com take 66% of the seed pack price.

Also 50% of the Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil Feminized seed which throws the Pearl pheno I originally used to make the new pearl hybrid ( Chem d Spoon)

 

[ojd]

damn got yourself some demon latcher super jealous. in my opinion oaxcans throw this type the most including the mother of these seeds is just crazy. obviously the mex had to come from somwhere before arriving in the new world. theres a thai strain called snake teeth and i also have this outback haze x vietnam doing something similar. i think taking these resin profiles of no yield and finding a male which increaesd production without touching the high would be grail stuff. where else could u see resin like that lol View attachment 18810160 View attachment 18810163

Nice , who made the Outback Haze x Vietnam ?