Sunshineinabag
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If u already mixed up a tea and its not concentrated then use tea...never use on seedlings is my advice
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Tutorial Organics for Beginners
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vancoast_com
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I love seeing these kind of posts. It can help a lot of growers, especially the beginners.
Sunshineinabag
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I'd prefer to use dry amendments if possible but if u need guidance and I can help I will
I think that a beginner should just buy a good quality organic mix and learn how to use that first. Roots Organic or Ocean Forest and pure water will do nicely without all the complications of correct amending. As time goes you can improve the mix with simple additions of organic amendments. Organic grows one should only use pure water Only. Keep it simple newbies.
NO I don't think so because of salt build-up from bottom watering. Alien is best used with peat or coco substrates. However I'm skeptical of any kind of bottom watering other than ebb & flow.
If you are in the US then get some "Roots Organic" and only use pure water. Be careful managing water because the starting ppm is 3999 (5.9 EC) or over! The high EC is potential salts and not active salts. Potential salts only become active or useful under certain conditions. Water is the main condition and is the main release mechanism because microbes need water to populate and break down nutrients. Water management with pure water is key with organic a grow.
Water always follows salt and excess watering in an organic grow or keeping the soil too wet will cause the release of excess nutrients. It's amazing how little raw nutrient a plant uses under the correct conditions. I wouldn't add anything to Roots Organic I would just up-pot 3 times. Happy gardening.
Water always follows salt and excess watering in an organic grow or keeping the soil too wet will cause the release of excess nutrients. It's amazing how little raw nutrient a plant uses under the correct conditions. I wouldn't add anything to Roots Organic I would just up-pot 3 times. Happy gardening.
Creeperpark Thanks for the replys
I understand your first reply.
Second reply:
How do you get a salt bild-up when you add the nutrition in before you start your grow and only give pure water? This would then also happen when you give water from the top.
As the OP gives water with-out eny run off. So I don't understand this.
As i read coco only hold a X amount of water, this should not change when you bottom feed.
So if the OP gives water 2 times a day from the top what is then the differents if I give them 2 time a day water from the bottom. The coco will only take up till it cant hold any more water.
So in both cases the coco should have the same amount of water in it.
The thing I could see as a problem is that when you bottom feed the nutrition is only in the top part of the medium and not flushed down as it would with top feeding.
Third replay:
Maybe I could order it on Amazon, but will probably be expensive.
Again thanks for the reply.
Hope you can clear something up for me.
I understand your first reply.
Second reply:
As I understand the OP is for coco, correct me if I am wrong.
How do you get a salt bild-up when you add the nutrition in before you start your grow and only give pure water? This would then also happen when you give water from the top.
As the OP gives water with-out eny run off. So I don't understand this.
As i read coco only hold a X amount of water, this should not change when you bottom feed.
So if the OP gives water 2 times a day from the top what is then the differents if I give them 2 time a day water from the bottom. The coco will only take up till it cant hold any more water.
So in both cases the coco should have the same amount of water in it.
The thing I could see as a problem is that when you bottom feed the nutrition is only in the top part of the medium and not flushed down as it would with top feeding.
Third replay:
Maybe I could order it on Amazon, but will probably be expensive.
The OPtalks about soilless mix, so there is no soil
Again thanks for the reply.
Hope you can clear something up for me.
I'm talking about using with an organic mix that's amended with lots of amendments. I'm not talking about using it with coco coir or peat soil-less mix. That's what it's made for. What's the difference you ask, an organic soil mix will have an EC of 3999 ppm or 5.5 EC and Pro Mix hp peat mix only has 360 ppm or .6 EC a big difference. And for coco the ppm will only be whatever ppm you add with nutrients. .Its made for soil-less mixes and not high ppm amended mixes.
Sorry, I never saw OP for coco anywhere other than you saying it now. Coco Coir is called coco and I have never heard it call anything but coco. I'm ole school so I'm learning something from you. So If I say OP that means coco coir and that's the common term Dav?
Sorry, I never saw OP for coco anywhere other than you saying it now. Coco Coir is called coco and I have never heard it call anything but coco. I'm ole school so I'm learning something from you. So If I say OP that means coco coir and that's the common term Dav?
Thanks for the reply.
I think there is a misunderstanding here.
With OP i mean openings post, so the first post in the forum thread.
The person who started this post, posted how to make a mix for soil less growing. Did you read his post?
I am asking if what he posted will work in de alian easy feed system.
Again thanks for raply
Hope to hear from you
goingrey
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Bottom-feeding a coco or a coco-perlite mix works ok, the medium wicks the moisture around the container quite well. Peat moss or sphagnum should work even better.
People warn about salt buildup doing this. Surely how much salts they are given in the first place plays a part in that though.
Thanks for the reply.
So using one of the soil less mixes from the Openings post would work fine. But it would be beter if I use Peat moss or Sphagnum instead of coco.
i'll definitely have a look at them, never heard of it before, thanks for the tip.
Thanks for the reply's everyone.
This will definitely help me.
goingrey
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Yeah that's what they say (only tried coco myself). It's soilless mix #1 in the op.
Thanks for the reply.
Then its time for me to do some google to find out if i can get all the ingredients for that mix.
Thanks for heling its really appreciated.
CannaRed
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Burn1
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Can't stay away forever.
Burn1
Hell yeah
