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Organic Fanatics - Australia

monoclepop

Member
Organic growing can be something of a minefield as there seems (to me) to be a few different views of what OG is.

my own angle is to try to get away from dependence on manufacturers. and I think that a point has been missed when, for example, someone inquires here whether bummings has the ingredients necessary for their organic crop this summer. (and neither do I trust some maufacturers who say their product is this or that.)

Yeah, good writing on "organic". It is a silly word the way we use it online in forums like this cause it don't really mean that much in terms of really describing how we grow and the impacts (or lack of) that we have on our grow medium, local soil, wider environment - blah blah.

Not sure if anyone's mentioned it yet, but I really enjoyed reading The Omnivore's Dilemma a few years back. Its focused on food production, but does take a nice critical look at the industrial-organic-food-production-complex. I guess the main point of it was that just cause a farmer is certified "organic" and is therefore not pouring synthetic chemicals all over the soil, it doesn't mean that they're being in anyway sustainable or are even managing the land in a healthy way.

Like me - I literally get my "organics" from Bunnings - for all the "good" I'm doing the planet I may as well be synthetic. The levels of heavy metals and other nasties (cadmium?? - that shit is naaaasty) aren't printed on the side of the bags, and I'm still using evil industrial by-products from unsustainable farming practices that are literally destroying our environment.

I'm looking forward to becoming more of a sandal wearer as I age. With a bit more space and time I'd love to get my garden a bit closer to what you've got Silver.

It's the the right idea - by the time Silver is dead and gone the ground he has been working will actually be in better shape for the next generation. He's got the space to make it work for him - aint gonna happen for me in my crowded innercity apartment, and I'm jealous!


Quick question for those of you using animal manure - you ever get nervous about animal medication making its way into your systems? I know one aging hippy who has refused to ever go near horse manure for the concern it'll be ripe with unknown adulterants. Just wondering if there's any truth to his concerns. Do you use manures from animals you know aren't being pumped full of anti-biotics/anti-worm agents/pharma-cornucopias ?
 

SilverSurfer_OG

Living Organic Soil...
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Dont be too jealous mate its a lot of hard work! But i aim to make it easier by working with nature and using my pig to clear land and chooks to keep the weeds down, that kinda thing.

But for sure you could escape the city at some point and get yerself an acre or two.

Regarding pharma-cornucopias. A good thermophillic (hot) compost will breakdown that stuff and render it harmless. As mentioned before heavy metals not so much... so yes choose your inputs wisely and try and keep it as local as possible.

:smoweed:
 

SilverSurfer_OG

Living Organic Soil...
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ps. I have noticed many of the big compost selling companies do quite often have PPM's of lead, cadmium and other heavy metals for peace of mind printed on the bag or tub of pellets...
 

_Ina_

Active member
Veteran
monoclepop: i live in a really small and shitty apartment too:)i took this when i was on the coast,i add some nettles into it. I don't use many manures because of what you saying. but sometimes i do.worm castings is really good thing too,if i had garden i would have live worms,make compost and never buy anything.:)
 

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crazyhorse73

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Hey everyone good thread seems to have gone a bit quiet though. Where is the Silver Surfer @.

For anybody that is interested I just found guano in pellet form at Bunnings. Put out by Richgro 0 - 15 - 0

A Bonus!!!
Also at Bunnings Fat-Sorb = Zeolite

Need some of this EM1 now.

See ya.
 

crazyhorse73

New member
This site is great for all home gardeners. Thanks for the information. I grew vegetables that were beautiful using a bunch of stuff I learnt here. Organics are the future, throw out your poison petroleum based shite. This thread has been a revelation. Thanks again. People like me who have never smoked can learn something too. Great knowledge.
 

Terroir

Member
What type of pig you got. I got a champion sara line berkshire. Big fucking thing plus a few berkshire x tamworth hybrids. Hybrids are going for salami in a month or 2. Treying to get mqy hands on some oriental berkshire straws.
 

Terroir

Member
If your looking for rice hulls try equestrian supplies. You can get 5m3 for $75 or so. H33aps cheaper than perlite. Weighs 125 kg or so so you need a ute and a mate or 2.

Check Gumtree. You never know whats going to pop up. THere is a guy in vico with tonnes of neem seed meal. Pricey and pick up only.

QUestion has anyone tried their luck with a shipment of fishbone meal or crab shell meal from usa. Get of amazon, pay shipping and pray for delivery.

Also thanks to favourable conditions lucerne has dropped in price considerably in QLD so i have heard.
 
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Sat X RB

Hello Everyone ... just a word or two to say that the Organic experiment continues on this bush block.

I 've just read page 39 here and the comments re enlivening this thread ... so I 'll give this thread a nudge ...

I 've been able to easily absorb the lessons in this thread (good teachers!) and it seems my third organic season is working successfully ... just like my second one. I am happy to have done so much learning about Organics here in such a short time (the brain calcifies with age, y'know. so for me nowadays no outcome is certain!)

Terroir ... never expected you to to be an oinker breeder! and the price of hay in Q HAS gone down since the rain began ... all the same, mulch hay at the local feed store is now $6 ... double what I paid pick-up-off-the-paddock two years ago.

All is fine here ... the dimming of the summer light has begun ... may the Heavens bless us all with a mould-free autumn ...
 

Terroir

Member
Hello Everyone ... just a word or two to say that the Organic experiment continues on this bush block.

I 've just read page 39 here and the comments re enlivening this thread ... so I 'll give this thread a nudge ...

I 've been able to easily absorb the lessons in this thread (good teachers!) and it seems my third organic season is working successfully ... just like my second one. I am happy to have done so much learning about Organics here in such a short time (the brain calcifies with age, y'know. so for me nowadays no outcome is certain!)

Terroir ... never expected you to to be an oinker breeder! and the price of hay in Q HAS gone down since the rain began ... all the same, mulch hay at the local feed store is now $6 ... double what I paid pick-up-off-the-paddock two years ago.

All is fine here ... the dimming of the summer light has begun ... may the Heavens bless us all with a mould-free autumn ...

Just messing around really. THEY TASTE SO GOOD.
 

Jesco

Member
great idea mate,, can back up the use of seasol and charlie carp as being great products for growing buds.. also Melrose Organic Molasses from Coles is great stuff for adding some flavour and trichs.... Amigrows products i believe are also good organic options also available from bunnings...
Peas

A big fan of Seasol here, I used to combine it with fish emulsion such as Charlie Carp but in the past two seasons have used Powerfeed in place of Charlie Carp - not sure which is better out of the two, to be honest. Aside from that, Powerfeed may not be entirely organic either, so...
 

aunz420

New member
A big fan of Seasol here, I used to combine it with fish emulsion such as Charlie Carp but in the past two seasons have used Powerfeed in place of Charlie Carp - not sure which is better out of the two, to be honest. Aside from that, Powerfeed may not be entirely organic either, so...

yeah mate I think you're right, today i noticed something like 'organic-based' on the Seasol Powerfeed bottle, but no Organic accreditation...
 

ClarkGrizz

New member
Seasol had an organic powerfeed but last time I went to Bunnings (3 diff store) none on the shelves.. Anybody using life force range, organic line. Been using their fertalizer gold, humus and bloom..
 

ClarkGrizz

New member
It's good stuff mate, well so far..using seasol instead of their seaweed and seasol organic instead of grow. Gogo juice also.. plants are healthy and frosty, very happy... Using bloom with monsta bud and molasses. Finish with Ozi tonic..
 

nksv

Member
yeah, been using that gogo stuff to. very nice stuff. i'll hit the life force stuff for upcoming greenhouse grow. can't bloody wait!
 

Dion

Active member
i keep hearing about this gogo juice, ill have to try it


so is charlie carp a flower or veg nutrient? i assumed veg but ppl are talking about using it instead of power feed
 

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