ORGANIC CLONES IN PERLITE

[MileHighGuy]

Just stick your clones in a seedling mix.... clear cups are awesome too.

I personally use 1 Part Sphagnum, 1 Part EWC/Compost, 1 Part Vermiculite and a handful of some gypsum.

Then you have your seedling seed mix, and you have your cloning mix. Two Birds, one stone.

Just fill up a beer cup, stick your clone in there and water with aloe. Then dome and heat like you normally would based on your particular environment.

Clones from Various Stages. It takes about 2 weeks for the whole tray to root, Because I usually wait too long to take my clones.... But, some popped right away.

And Superthrive again a copy and paste from cootz:

When Oregon finally banned Superthrive many of the secret ingredients were identified and it confirmed what many already believed (already knew) that it was basically Naphthalene acetic acid (NAA) which is what got this product banned in the first place, chelated Iron and Vitamin B-1. You can't hide the smell on this one.

Even at that the NAA level is only 0.04% and the Vitamin B-1 is around 0.08% - 1 drop per gallon, right? Or something like that.

Sounds pretty super to me......

From Wiki:

NAA is a synthetic plant hormone in the auxin family and is an ingredient in many commercial plant rooting horticultural products; it is a rooting agent and used for the vegetative propagation of plants from stem and leaf cutting. It is also used for plant tissue culture.[2]
The hormone NAA does not occur naturally. In the United States, under the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA), products containing NAA require registration with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as pesticides.


Those Spouted Seed Teas have lot's of Natural Enzymes..... Just Saying.

 

[moses wellfleet]

Thank you for that MHG... The aloe that you are using is that in liquid form?

 

[oceangrownkush]

You should pick up one of the Burpee auto-watering seed trays described in Mosca's "fly cloning" thread... I have been using it with pretty awesome success lately, I don't use the H&G product either like he says to, just Pro-Tekt and Aloe juice. Awesome thread man, really good read.

Edit; I wrote this out thinking the last post on page 4 was the last post of the thread, looks like someone beat me to the Aloe bit. I use Lilly of the Desert brand, good shit, just wish I had the volume to be going through a gallon quicker.

 

[John Deere]

Thank you for that MHG... The aloe that you are using is that in liquid form?

You can grab a bottle at health food stores or such. Look for ones with citric acid or similar and AVOID sodium benzoate. Lily of the Desert, as OGK mentioned, is a common brand.

Alternatively, you can buy the dry powder for WAY cheaper. Lots of folks here use it and I'm ordering some when I run out of liquid.

http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/item.php?item_id=111

 

[MileHighGuy]

I use the ingredientstodiefor website. 200x Aloe 4oz lasts me a long time. I use 1 Teaspoon per 4 gallons or adjust based on that ratio.

 

[MileHighGuy]

The Barley Seed Sprout Tea Recipe has been popular here in the Organic forum due to the amount of enzymes in it that are natural and far better than the NAA in superthrive... and the cost for the barley seed is so cheap.

 

[hayday]

Get a container...
Fill with perlite...
add a small amount of water,1/4 volume(tap works fine)
Cover container with foil and label your species...
Poke a hole through the foil and perlite...
insert cutting...(with or without rooting powder or honey,ect)
wait 15 days...

These are the tubs I use for the technique above^
I can root 6-8 cuttings in one tub in ten -15 days.The footprint on these is about 4"x6" and they are 3" deep.

They have other sizes that I use to catch run off under my small pots.All in all ,these things are like leggos in my veg room.
I learned to clone in perlite like this.I really can't see me changing in the near future as this works everytime

 

[The Sensi Rebel]

...honey?

 

[hayday]

Honey is an antiseptic,antibacterial and suppossed to be good for rooting cuts.I have tried it and saw no difference in the whole procedure.Worked the same as no powder,same as with powder.
I believe the biggest thing in cloning is temerature.Honey is prolly bro-science.Doesn't harm anything though.

 

[Granger2]

Hayday,
You're rooting in chocolate chip cookies? Or are they oatmeal raisin? Hard to tell from the photos. Get a better camera! -granger

 

[moses wellfleet]

The greater variety of cloning techniques and medium that you try leads to better understanding of the rooting process and the moisture levels required etc. Even if this system doesn't fit in with your set up if you try it you will be a better clone maker after you have mastered it.

For this reason I want to mess around with aerocloners just to add to my experience!

 

[Granger2]

The main experience I gained from my Power Cloner was in spending afternoons cleaning, sterilizing, drying the Power Cloner. It works well, but it's been in storage since I started using coco, and getting 95%+. I'm hoping perlite will be even easier. Will be trying it soon. -granger

 

[soursmoker]

moses you said your perlite was very fine and powdery correct? mine is like dust, I thought I was buying "chunky" perlite but not even close... I haven't been able to use it for anything really... maybe I can use it on this...

I have been using the "walmart" cloner forever... but I just ran out of vermiculite and I don't think perlite works too good for that one... do you think it could be because this does not have individual cells for each clone?

 

[moses wellfleet]

moses you said your perlite was very fine and powdery correct? mine is like dust, I thought I was buying "chunky" perlite but not even close... I haven't been able to use it for anything really... maybe I can use it on this...

I have been using the "walmart" cloner forever... but I just ran out of vermiculite and I don't think perlite works too good for that one... do you think it could be because this does not have individual cells for each clone?

Your perlite sounds good for cloning, I tried putting perlite in individual cups but it didn't work nearly as well as one large container!

 

[moses wellfleet]

I have seen other people getting excellent results using coco as a low maintainance cloning medium!... It seems people either love or hate aero cloners!

 

[bajangreen]

With the perlite cloning i have found you can layer any container with a plastic bag i use card board boxes now. With this method you can take out the whole thing at once and the perlite moves away from the roots so you don't lose any cuttings when trying to dig them out, this way you can do way more cuts in a smaller space, like 2 per square inch.

 

[Granger2]

Moses,
Here's the coco rooting thread. I strongly recommend a heating pad/thermostat for either method. Another key to successful rooting is to have low light. I use a 2' t-5 w/one tube and a layer of white paper towel over the tall dome. Good luck. -granger
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=187029

 

[moses wellfleet]

With the perlite cloning i have found you can layer any container with a plastic bag i use card board boxes now. With this method you can take out the whole thing at once and the perlite moves away from the roots so you don't lose any cuttings when trying to dig them out, this way you can do way more cuts in a smaller space, like 2 per square inch.

I want this guy on my team. I can see that idea working great. I will try it in the morning!

 

[Granger2]

After 2+ months, does anyone have updates on success/failure? Thanks. -granger

 

[Granger2]

Bump
I've got some cooking since last Thursday night. Will report this weekend. -granger