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OR tests microbial product claims and releases results
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plantingplants
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There's this great pumpkin myco product that you listed on your website but you don't want to say what it is because that would be advertising? lol that's a little wormy.
http://wallacewow.com/products/wallace-organic-wonderwow-pumpkin-pro-mycorrhizal-inoculant
Prolly best bet is good old fashioned worm casting tea.
Curious about mycogrow by fungi perfecti now.
I second just going.back to using. The best auality castings /compost/frass and screw all the off the shelf.inmoculants...
Makes me wonder about all of them now.. Cause like 90% of.the tested ones are wayyy under what the label says...
Makes me wonder about all of them now.. Cause like 90% of.the tested ones are wayyy under what the label says...
one.sixoneeight
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plantingplants
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Hm.. WOW sells Mykos on their website with the same description as their Pumpkin Pro. Not sure what the relationship is there.
Really? The Mykos products we have show 80 spores/gram. I will have to go back and look at all the labels. I'm talking about the granules by the way.
I've posted the full list of tests from ODA here:
https://logicalgardener.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=773
I've posted the full list of tests from ODA here:
https://logicalgardener.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=773
Too bad they didn't test caps foliar pack. Brewing some now.
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I wonder why they all tested so low. I couldn't imagine all of these companies acting fraudulently. Bad storage maybe? How many samples were tested, how were they tested, etc? Did it die or was it never there to begin with? Lots of questions. Ogbiowar improved my roots for sure, and my friends use Mike o' rizae and great white which also make more, bigger, whiter roots. So there must be something in these products that works. Hmmmm...
Bad storage is an issue. Have you ever seen a grow store with a fridge, let alone the freezer, that would be a necessity for the length of time the product typically sits in the warehouse/shop.
This is last years news by the by. I found a few that predate it since but my bookmark filing system spans three devices and one flash. It's a real pain in the ass tracking anything down.
But it's there if you have the time. I imagine there will be much more debunking as time goes on. I have a half written email to Chalker-Scott trying to convince her to rip through everything. That pile of bullshit goes deep. How many of these products contain a small hit of nutrients and chelators..
This is last years news by the by. I found a few that predate it since but my bookmark filing system spans three devices and one flash. It's a real pain in the ass tracking anything down.
But it's there if you have the time. I imagine there will be much more debunking as time goes on. I have a half written email to Chalker-Scott trying to convince her to rip through everything. That pile of bullshit goes deep. How many of these products contain a small hit of nutrients and chelators..
This backs up what I've been saying for years. Most of these guys just repackage stuff they buy in bulk from Asia. If you want to buy a microbial inoculant look for the independent lab testing. The more reliable companies seem to be older ones catering to lawn care professionals but 'verify' - always.
If you want microbes, extract and grow them yourself - easy peasy.
IMO the brewing of this product always seemed nutty.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha suckers ha ha ha ha ....oh ya yeehaw
if I wanted any snake oil ,,I shure as hell would go catch one and extract it myself...do you think butane would work....??????? yeehaw so many suckers out there and shady companies...do your homework
Principante 8
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Are there any products that you recommend for those that don't want to brew their own? Thanks very much.
ODA only tested for 3 species. They didn't say where they obtained them, if they were expired or what. If they were obtained from hydro stores, there's no telling how old they were and what conditions they were stored in.
You can say what you will, but I've tried every organic control for Root Aphids that I could find. Using OGBioWar Foliar and Root saved my ass. Haven't seen an RA for at least 2 years. That's all I use now. I don't brew it. Just mix and drench according to directions of Root and Foliar. OGBW, if fresh, is absolutely NOT bullshit.
The only RA measure I use is OGBW, but I also use a simple EWC ACT weekly. I use a variety of inoculants to make my teas. 3 different EWC's, Ancient forest, a good local compost, my 35 year old compost, etc. I use Earth Juice nute line, inoculated and brewed till the pH is where I want it. -granger
You can say what you will, but I've tried every organic control for Root Aphids that I could find. Using OGBioWar Foliar and Root saved my ass. Haven't seen an RA for at least 2 years. That's all I use now. I don't brew it. Just mix and drench according to directions of Root and Foliar. OGBW, if fresh, is absolutely NOT bullshit.
The only RA measure I use is OGBW, but I also use a simple EWC ACT weekly. I use a variety of inoculants to make my teas. 3 different EWC's, Ancient forest, a good local compost, my 35 year old compost, etc. I use Earth Juice nute line, inoculated and brewed till the pH is where I want it. -granger
