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While it looks nice, i just dont see that cab staying cool, now I have never grown, and have zero experience with any of these setups first hand.
But it just looks like it will get hot as hell in there for some reason.
Im in the same boat as you tho, I dont want to waste time building everything, but ive been researching individual setups from 4-5 different websites and still havent decided yet. I think you can build a better system buy piecing together a light element, container, hydro setup and come out with more product for the same cost.
But it just looks like it will get hot as hell in there for some reason.
Im in the same boat as you tho, I dont want to waste time building everything, but ive been researching individual setups from 4-5 different websites and still havent decided yet. I think you can build a better system buy piecing together a light element, container, hydro setup and come out with more product for the same cost.
Straight up, these cabs are dope. If you dont have time to build it, these are totally the way to go. Pluss if you ever want to expand you can just stack another one right on top of it. Ive seen exelent yeils out of a BC northern lights box muxh like the one you are looking at. Heat is not an issue becasue of the intkae/exhaust system these are set up with
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If there is one thing i love, its being wrong!
So I moved into my new apartment today, only to find the floor plan on my room is a wee bit different. I cant use a hydro hut or anything that large, and I think I'm going to just get this system. It has everything I need down to nutrients!
No hidden costs for me having to go run out and get something last minute.
So I moved into my new apartment today, only to find the floor plan on my room is a wee bit different. I cant use a hydro hut or anything that large, and I think I'm going to just get this system. It has everything I need down to nutrients!
No hidden costs for me having to go run out and get something last minute.
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Ganico said:
not all of us have the tools or time to assemble all this stuff from stratch. And I can think of nothing more frustrating than having to go get something at 2am.
figure 400w light, with bulb, ballast.
cabinet, hell, the c13 guys pay over $100 bucks for a cab that weighs over 100 pounds...no thanks to particle board, i will eventually have to pick this up and move it.
the hydro system is complete, i dont have to piece air pumps, go find buckets and cut, air stones
i could go on and on, yes its pricey, but trying to configure my lil perfect setup wasnt even coming close to this including everything, heck even a carbon scrubber for me, yay
I'm not in it to make work to grow, I just want to be able to smoke mah shit!
jojajico-ok, so i buy tools for a box, buy the wood, which isnt exactly cheap, but what about everything else? Id rather not spend a month trying to piece every little piece i need that is cheaper, and honestly, if this thing can get me a 4 week start on it, its worth the little extra cash
One thing that made me decide i wasnt going to build my own cab wasnt the material, Particle board is heavy as hell, this lil thing can be scooted around anywhere, try and pick up a c13, c24 or whatever and move it
Nothing againts the DIY guys, especially the c13 people, if i could fit one in my apartment i would.
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that response was retarded
If you get a 400W light, cab, nutes, cloning set-up, timers, surge protector, and some other goodies thats not bad for the price. figure the light/hood alone is 350-500$ easy, so its $300 for the rest of the goodies and a cab. Comes all in one box, to your door, seems like a great starter kit for a beginner. Peace_highst
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HAH, i think i may be transforming into a woman with my inability to decide!
Here is my problem, i have 2 closets, that are only 22 inches deep, and 60inches across, the problem is i can only use half of that size because it has the moronic sliding doors that can only open up half of the closet at a time. well, one door has to cover the other etc, so i wouldnt be able to have access to the whole grow.
So a container that can sit out in a room w/o drawing attention and work functionally. I dont want to have to run cooling tests to make sure I have my airflow setup. I also need it to be lightweight so that if I do have a friend over I can just move it around wherever i need to and toss a blanket over it or something.
The only thing I dont like about it is I dont know anything about the ballasts, and those digital ones look so tempting, lol, that and going hydro for a first grow has me kinda leary, the margin for error is so much smaller with all the ph crap.
OH SNAP, they dont include any ph or tds stuff, and im not paying 125 for a tds pen, back to the drawing board!
If anyone has any ideas im more than open to them. I havent ordered anything yet
Here is my problem, i have 2 closets, that are only 22 inches deep, and 60inches across, the problem is i can only use half of that size because it has the moronic sliding doors that can only open up half of the closet at a time. well, one door has to cover the other etc, so i wouldnt be able to have access to the whole grow.
So a container that can sit out in a room w/o drawing attention and work functionally. I dont want to have to run cooling tests to make sure I have my airflow setup. I also need it to be lightweight so that if I do have a friend over I can just move it around wherever i need to and toss a blanket over it or something.
The only thing I dont like about it is I dont know anything about the ballasts, and those digital ones look so tempting, lol, that and going hydro for a first grow has me kinda leary, the margin for error is so much smaller with all the ph crap.
OH SNAP, they dont include any ph or tds stuff, and im not paying 125 for a tds pen, back to the drawing board!
If anyone has any ideas im more than open to them. I havent ordered anything yet
There is no way I can endorse this. I grew in a space almost exactly the same dimensions, with a 150w HPS, and I had over 160cfm of ventilation, and that had a hard time keeping cool. This will be way too hot with a 400w, that's just ridiculous. The materials for this entire setup can probably be bought for less than a third of the price. If you don't think you have time to buy the materials and put it together, then I don't think you have the time or willingness to make your grow successful.
By the way, I've seen that exact cabinet for sale for about $30, it's super lightweight, made of some type of plastic, and I sure as hell would not feel safe with a 400w HID light inches from the top.
No. There is no hood with this package, it's just a bare bulb.
400w HPS Ballast - $52.63
400w HPS Bulb - $15.67
Add the cost of some wires and shit, that's a complete 400w HPS setup for around $100.
Check out my 150w HPS grow, I've got pictures of the cab in the first post. It's about the same size, looks a lot more natural in an apartment, and is silent. I just got an oz from it, and it was my first grow, using bagseed. Think this through, and get opinions from people here. If it takes two months to decide, so what? Better than wasting three months on a grow that yields 5 grams, and having wasted hundreds of dollars on a setup that doesn't work.
By the way, I've seen that exact cabinet for sale for about $30, it's super lightweight, made of some type of plastic, and I sure as hell would not feel safe with a 400w HID light inches from the top.
No. There is no hood with this package, it's just a bare bulb.
400w HPS Ballast - $52.63
400w HPS Bulb - $15.67
Add the cost of some wires and shit, that's a complete 400w HPS setup for around $100.
Check out my 150w HPS grow, I've got pictures of the cab in the first post. It's about the same size, looks a lot more natural in an apartment, and is silent. I just got an oz from it, and it was my first grow, using bagseed. Think this through, and get opinions from people here. If it takes two months to decide, so what? Better than wasting three months on a grow that yields 5 grams, and having wasted hundreds of dollars on a setup that doesn't work.
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good points bounty29 except the one about
"If you don't think you have time to buy the materials and put it together, then I don't think you have the time or willingness to make your grow successful.
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Its not that I dont have the time, I dont want to spend my time building a god damn box, lol, i get ZERO satisfaction from it.
"If you don't think you have time to buy the materials and put it together, then I don't think you have the time or willingness to make your grow successful.
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Its not that I dont have the time, I dont want to spend my time building a god damn box, lol, i get ZERO satisfaction from it.
but u will get satisfaction when that box produces better than the thing you plan to buy at a cheaper price. we would all love to have everything we need to do a good grow. hell some of us woul dlove to just shit dank bud but it doesnt work like that. you have to put some effort into it. and if you cant build a simple box i would question how much you really want to grow. cause a grow is a good grow can be a 1000 time harder than building a simple box. really it would take you a weekend if you planned it right.
Exactly. Would you rather get zero satisfaction from building a box that grows you dank bud, or would you rather be pissed off and broke after spending $800 on a box that is too hot to get any results and was just a waste of money? It's the same story with most of these pre-built ready to grow boxes.
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The only way I could build my own would be to YOINK tools from home and bring them down for what reason? but ok....so next part
what materials do you suggest building it out of? im serious here, im ruling out particle board, too heavy and too much of it!
cant be plastic obviously, how thick of wood do you need? if your willing to teach, im willing to listen
what materials do you suggest building it out of? im serious here, im ruling out particle board, too heavy and too much of it!
cant be plastic obviously, how thick of wood do you need? if your willing to teach, im willing to listen
particle board aint that heavy. my ol man use to be a carpenter and ive been cutting woods since i could walk and ive never thought partical board = heavy. but there are other options ply wood for one. if not wood then u could simply make frame out of pvc pipe and cover it with light proof matierial. simple as that. lol that would only take u like 30 min to put together (well maybe not that short but real quick). what dimensions do u want? what kinda light do u plan to run? im sure the forum can help you come up with a cheap quick solution.
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id love to run 600w, but thats not realistic, im not sure 400w is either.
I dont know how one would cool a 400w off a digital ballast in under 4 feet. im figuring a max heighth of 48 inches, otherwise it might stick out too much i think.
air cooled hood? 4'' or 6''
a 6inch air cooled hood is expensive, and probably loud.
And to give you an idea of my expectations. I know the first few will suck, but Im hoping for at least 200g first run, id like to be able to get to the .9-1 g/watt ratio with a 400w, or if running two 150's and hitting 300g is easier, id be down for the 150 love. thoughts?
I dont know how one would cool a 400w off a digital ballast in under 4 feet. im figuring a max heighth of 48 inches, otherwise it might stick out too much i think.
air cooled hood? 4'' or 6''
a 6inch air cooled hood is expensive, and probably loud.
And to give you an idea of my expectations. I know the first few will suck, but Im hoping for at least 200g first run, id like to be able to get to the .9-1 g/watt ratio with a 400w, or if running two 150's and hitting 300g is easier, id be down for the 150 love. thoughts?
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ok this is how i see it. depending on the square footage of your grow area you can run a 600 watt or 400 watt. i am running at 100 wpsf with a 600 watt but i am using AC and an iar cooled hood. i reccommend using a 400 with good air movement and you should be fine. also for your setup i think SCROG will help you reach your yeild goals and maybe even exceed them.
now for the actual grow space, wood would be a little more permenant. simply decide the size you want and build a frame out of 2 by 4s then use plywood for the walls. you can instal wheels if you like to make it easy to move. if you dont want to use wood simply build a frame out of pvc pipe or metal pipe depending on how sturdy u want it and then drap and connecy a heavy light proof tarp. cut holes for fans, hang light and your pretty much good to go. all of this can be had with one trip to your local home depot lowes ect.
hope this helps let us know what u decide.
now for the actual grow space, wood would be a little more permenant. simply decide the size you want and build a frame out of 2 by 4s then use plywood for the walls. you can instal wheels if you like to make it easy to move. if you dont want to use wood simply build a frame out of pvc pipe or metal pipe depending on how sturdy u want it and then drap and connecy a heavy light proof tarp. cut holes for fans, hang light and your pretty much good to go. all of this can be had with one trip to your local home depot lowes ect.
hope this helps let us know what u decide.
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i think im gonna hit lowes and home depot again this weekend and see if anything is already out there.....then...i try to decide
