- Opiated Thai Sticks: Myth or Truth? -

[CannaRed]

see this is the problem , the only people perpetuating this myth dont even know anything about the country except what they google ,
and they expect us to believe anything they come up with ??
give it up guys , this is why i closed this thread , it had been beaten to death already and no new information could come forth ,
just rehashing old rubbish and hearsay and urban myths that can never be substantiated ..

Not exactly true Donald! New info came forth
I learned that 2000 pods + much labor hours = 2 years of smoke.
And Opium wont burn right on weed, does this mean dab rig works better? Probably leave the banger dirty.
My opiate days are behind me, but I did grow poppies for the first time this year! I'm planting more for next year. Hungarian Blues, and some Peshawar, and some red/pink ones a old lady gave me.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Look Donald, I get it you don't believe Opiated Thai Sticks existed and that's fine, but these were around well before you even smoked some came across them others clearly did not.


They were not a common thing, I only came across them twice, and personally I would rather smoke the non Opiated Thai the two times I got them was enough.

"i dont believe in them" ,
no its not that , they didnt exist , there was no commercially available thai stick that was ever opiated ,
look at the stories , all are second or third hand ,
people were told stuff that they believed , due to inexperience , and lack of knowledge ,
yourself included , you would have been quite young at the time , so easily influenced and swayed ,

i note now you seem to describe the affect , u never felt the need to do that before , wonder why ,
anyhow its not just dark , its not even the same as cannabis , take a look at the first hand reports from folks who have experience with both , just in this page u will read about it ... ]

as i have said , and others , we dont disagree some folks added opium to weed at some point ,
but it was never available as a commercial product added to thai sticks ,
what ever everyone else had who swears apon it , it wasnt thai sticks , or was it done in thailand ...

 

[@hempy]

i note now you seem to describe the affect , u never felt the need to do that before , wonder why ,
anyhow its not just dark , its not even the same as cannabis , take a look at the first hand reports from folks who have experience with both , just in this page u will read about it ... ]

as i have said , and others , we dont disagree some folks added opium to weed at some point ,
but it was never available as a commercial product added to thai sticks ,
what ever everyone else had who swears apon it , it wasnt thai sticks , or was it done in thailand ...

They were called Opiated Thai sticks at the time I could also buy opium to smoke and I did try that too.

I never tried heroin or had any interest to, I saw too many destroyed by it, Many I grew up with through school who made it through the other end, many did not those that did were never the same.

I wouldn't call any type of high that had you laughing one minute and throwing up the next for many hours after smoking it a good experience, but that was the experience you got if you smoked a little too much of it.

Many did experience it that have posted in this thread and many did not, and just because you didn't experience or see it, don't automatically make it a lie.

Like CvH posted, I too would be real interested in hearing from a Thai or even westerner that was there at the time frame.

 

[ninox33]

Urban myth IMO. I remember the sticks, heard the “opiated” whispers too. As then, I still believe it’s BS.
Sadly much of cannabis culture is based on whispers, and decades later people still argue this shit.
That’s my thoughts, I’d even say I could be wrong, haven’t seen any evidence. Bad arse uncle’s biker dealing mates? Seriously?
Sometimes the only truths I hear here ICMAG that correlate with my experience is @Tom Hill stating 5% are excellent.
Anyway it’s all my opinion, nothing more, only fact is the 4th sentence.

 

[Donald Mallard]

They were called Opiated Thai sticks at the time I could also buy opium to smoke and I did try that too.

I never tried heroin or had any interest to, I saw too many destroyed by it, Many I grew up with through school who made it through the other end, many did not those that did were never the same.

I wouldn't call any type of high that had you laughing one minute and throwing up the next for many hours after smoking it a good experience, but that was the experience you got if you smoked a little too much of it.

Many did experience it that have posted in this thread and many did not, and just because you didn't experience or see it, don't automatically make it a lie.

Like CvH posted, I too would be real interested in hearing from a Thai or even westerner that was there at the time frame.

sam was there , and asked the thais there who were growing thai stick weed ,
they said it was an urban myth ,,
but you dont seem to hear things you dont want to ,
did you not just read what thai bliss said ,
what right said ,
what vermont man said ,
what the guys in the thai stick book said ,
all first hand experiences , and some even in thailand at the time ,
all said the same thing ,
ive spoken to other smuggl;ers in oz too , they said the same thing ,
regular travellers to thailand at that time , said the same thing ,

no 70 yr old thai person is going to come on here to talk about this btw ,
they likely dont even speak english , let along use computers ,

you seem to neglect that the weed and the opium were grown in different parts ,
you have no clue the distance , or that those people dont really even talk to each other ,
never mind do business together , they are not the same people at all ,

you neglect that the price of opium was quite high compared to weed , where does this get reflected in the price,
also that thai people said why would they do that to their weed that was already excellent , why ruin it with opium , many have said this , not just me ,
you have blinkers on and want to believe something that just isnt a thing...

im going to close this again ,
it just isnt worth debating over and over , as i said no new information is coming , and it wont come ,
there is no proof there was ever any opiated thai export weed , for many reasons as put forth by myself and others ,
this is just going to keep going round and round worthlessly ...