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One plant threw nanners, 40 days 12/12. 14 pot SCROG.What to do?

greenops

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Hey guys,

Last night I looked at one bud that looked like it had a seed in it. So I started to inspect the whole grow, but since this is a 14 pot scrog, that can be quite difficult. Finally, I discovered nanners on The Purps #4 (BD Bud Depot). I removed about 6 or 7, single and groups of nanners. But I sure was too late as there are quite a few seeded buds in this scrog. Any suggestions how I should proceed? Should I kill the Purps #4? Or keep growing her out while keeping an eye for nanners?


14 pot Scrog
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The Purps #4
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1 of the removed nanners
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Switcher56

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If you know which one it is and, you obviously (by the sound of it) don't want to breed, then yes destroy it.
 

Creeperpark

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Those seeds are still valuable because they will all be feminized. Let the seeds turn dark and harvest them for use in the future. I have found some wickedly potent females that way. 😎
 

Switcher56

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Those seeds are still valuable because they will all be feminized. Let the seeds turn dark and harvest them for use in the future. I have found some wickedly potent females that way. 😎

Yes the seeds are valuable but the one tossing nanners I would get rid of. It has done its dirty deed by the sound of things
 

flylowgethigh

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Why would the knocked up girls only make fems? One thing I see he has going is the plants are consistant. If I let that tent of regs I have running go to seed, who knows what would come out? Those plants are all over the structure and flowering start map.
 

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Why would the knocked up girls only make fems? One thing I see he has going is the plants are consistent. If I let that tent of regs I have running go to seed, who knows what would come out? Those plants are all over the structure and flowering start map.

They would be Fems or herms. There will not be any males in them. Female seeds are made using chems to reverse them to produce male flowers. Using this pollen on any plant will make fem seeds. Female plants that herm and pollinate anything in the room will produce fems but are more unstable. We don't use these plants to make seeds with as they tend to make lots of herms vs plants that are stable that we reverse to make fem pollen.
 

f-e

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Won't be female seeds. Two females were not used. Any seed has a 50/50 chance of having male parts. Would you use that dating app?

Cut it out, and give the seeds to people you don't like lol Half their crop will seed itself and the other half
 

Hammerhead

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Won't be female seeds. Two females were not used. Any seed has a 50/50 chance of having male parts. Would you use that dating app?

Cut it out, and give the seeds to people you don't like lol

Sorry, that is incorrect.. I did not read it was a male that hermed. 1 female plant hermed which pollinated all the other female plants. That will make female seeds. Only reg seeds have a 50/50 chance.. Normal male pollen would be needed.
 

Creeperpark

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In the old days when good seeds were hard to get we had to make do with what we had. I would take feminized seeds and pick a nice female and pollinate the pre-flowers with true male pollen and that seemed to stabilize them later in flowering. I don't know what it is but some female plants that came from female pollen had killer potency but were unstable. The true male pollen stabilized the hermaphroditic tendencies, which also makes some killer seeds that were almost true. 😎
 

Hammerhead

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There are plenty of killer plants that herm.. If the plants can be inspected well during flower you could keep them. It's still very possible to miss some. Pollen sacs can grow in places that are not so easy to find.
 

f-e

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Sorry, that is incorrect.. I did not read it was a male that hermed. 1 female plant hermed which pollinated all the other female plants. That will make female seeds. Only reg seeds have a 50/50 chance.. Normal male pollen would be needed.

I'm not saying any males would be found.

The offspring have a 50/50 chance of which parent they will take after. If the parents are a boy and girl, you have a 50/50 chance of boy or girl. In this case, the parents are hermi and girl. You have a 50/50 change of hermi or girl.

This is not how female seeds are made. All cannabis can hermi, but we don't breed with plants that are willing to do so, just because they felt like it. That is no good to us. We make female seeds from females that don't want to herm. We use females that need persuasion techniques that won't be replicated in a growroom unless done on purpose. The more the female resists herming for the purpose of making seeds, the less likely the seeds will herm.

These beans can't fail to inherit the characteristics of their parents. People using parents that hermi easily, or for no reason at all, make seeds that hermi easily.

The value of these seeds, is that half way through flowering, half of them may seed themselves and everything around them. Myself, I don't find this useful, and believe they should be destroyed. These are characteristics we have actively been breeding out for centuries. We just want seeds that express themselves as male or female. Trans seeds are no good.
 

Hammerhead

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I'm not saying any males would be found.

The offspring have a 50/50 chance of which parent they will take after. If the parents are a boy and girl, you have a 50/50 chance of boy or girl. In this case, the parents are hermi and girl. You have a 50/50 change of hermi or girl.

This is not how female seeds are made. All cannabis can hermi, but we don't breed with plants that are willing to do so, just because they felt like it. That is no good to us. We make female seeds from females that don't want to herm. We use females that need persuasion techniques that won't be replicated in a growroom unless done on purpose. The more the female resists herming for the purpose of making seeds, the less likely the seeds will herm.

These beans can't fail to inherit the characteristics of their parents. People using parents that hermi easily, or for no reason at all, make seeds that hermi easily.

The value of these seeds, is that half way through flowering, half of them may seed themselves and everything around them. Myself, I don't find this useful, and believe they should be destroyed. These are characteristics we have actively been breeding out for centuries. We just want seeds that express themselves as male or female. Trans seeds are no good.


I've been making fem seeds for decades. 50/50 doesn't relate to herms/fem plants. No clue where that number came from?. Fem seeds made with plants that herm from stress as I said are unstable and not what most use to make fem seeds. There are plenty of people that use Stress to produce Fem seeds. This is referred to as " SOMA'S WAY TO FEMALE SEEDS" He named it "Rodelization".. I do not use this method to make fem seeds.. If you want t read about it here is a link..

https://www.marijuanapassion.com/thr...by-soma.32381/..

I love the quality that comes from female seeds. I typically find 3:1 keepers in fems vs reg seeds. I'll never stop making them using proper selections and STS chems to reverse plants that do not herm under stress.
 
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StickyBandit

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If there's no Y chromosome you can't get males. Correct??
I was reading herm/nana genes are not desirable also for breading and should be destroyed
On a side note, Herms are a nasty business and why I won't use anything but white lights now. Try finding them under a purple light :)
 

f-e

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I've been making fem seeds for decades. 50/50 doesn't relate to herms/fem plants. No clue where that number came from?. Fem seeds made with plants that herm from stress as I said are unstable and not what most use to make fem seeds. There are plenty of people that use Stress to produce Fem seeds. This is referred to as " SOMA'S WAY TO FEMALE SEEDS" He named it "Rodelization".. I do not use this method to make fem seeds.. If you want t read about it here is a link..

https://www.marijuanapassion.com/thr...by-soma.32381/..

I love the quality that comes from female seeds. I typically find 3:1 keepers in fems vs reg seeds. I'll never stop making them using proper selections and STS chems to reverse plants that do not herm under stress.

We don't seem to have any difference in opinion. I look at your post, #8, and it's identical to mine that you said is incorrect.

Rodelisation doesn't play well with the maths. An unknown level of hermi qualities will creep in, that only the person turning the plant can judge.

The best approach is to try Rodelisation techniques, to find the one's that point blank refuse to turn. They are the girls you use the sts on to make female seeds that are robust. Sometimes you find a girl so set in her ways, that you must combine both methods. That's gold standard.

I was doing this in the last century. My penis is very large :)
 

Hammerhead

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We don't seem to have any difference in opinion. I look at your post, #8, and it's identical to mine that you said is incorrect.

Rodelisation doesn't play well with the maths. An unknown level of hermi qualities will creep in, that only the person turning the plant can judge.

The best approach is to try Rodelisation techniques, to find the one's that point blank refuse to turn. They are the girls you use the sts on to make female seeds that are robust. Sometimes you find a girl so set in her ways, that you must combine both methods. That's gold standard.

I was doing this in the last century. My penis is very large :)

It's how you wrote it.. Using 50/50 is only used with Reg seeds, not fem seeds. So yes That's incorrect. It's clear some have issues discussing anything. IMO Soma's method is garbage. There's enough info posted here for the OP to move on.
 

greenops

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Thanks for all the replies.
I removed the herming plant and continued to check the rest of the grow. I discovered nanners on the 3 other The Purps as well!
So out of these 14 plants, I had 4 The Purps from seed, and they all hermed! None of the other strains (Bodhi, DNA, Greenhouse, Sannie's, Serious) in this grow have any nanners. I'm pretty sure I have no light leaks and I don't know what else could've stressed them. I have to assume its the genetics that caused this. So I had all 4 The Purps removed, and the rest of the grow looks pretty seeded. Still got 5 weeks to go. Pretty bummed out about this as I was most excited for The Purps.

Should I contact BC Bud Depot regarding this issue? What can I expect from them?

Nanners!

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Hammerhead

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It's never easy figuring out what caused the stress. I've seen the same plant herm in 1 garden and not in the next. It's always best to just cull them. BC Bud isn't good, Lots of shady shit I've read about them. Use someone better like greatlakesgenetics seed bank.
 

StickyBandit

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I had a similar situation triggered by overfertilization and it spread like wildfire to my other strains throughout the grow room. Once the pods opened I noticed brown pistils occurring too early on my other plants and I had to cull anything in the bud cycle and spray water throughout to neutralize any pollen.
Any GOOD seed seller should be happy to get this info and correct their stock and make amends :)
For me I wasted months of growth.
If they hermie for ANY reason they should be culled anyway.
Good breeding genetics don't full hermie.
 

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