Oltimer's Purple Haze 2024 (26fx6m)

[exoticrobotic]

That's amazing, keeping a seedline going for that long, regularly growing it each year.

Well done.

But to keep it going while selecting is especially interesting as it may be possible to see and understand much more about the particular strain from how your selection went.

If you have a moment, i would be really interested to hear how the plants have changed along those 10 generations.

and any correlations with colour and form and high you may have noticed?

Are the highs diffferent between the greens and the purples like with the positronic's haze that th kept going many years for example.

Have any original smells changed at all?

 

[exoticrobotic]

Any anise smells?

 

[hanfiking]

That's amazing, keeping a seedline going for that long, regularly growing it each year.

Well done.

But to keep it going while selecting is especially interesting as it may be possible to see and understand much more about the particular strain from how your selection went.

If you have a moment, i would be really interested to hear how the plants have changed along those 10 generations.

and any correlations with colour and form and high you may have noticed?

Are the highs diffferent between the greens and the purples like with the positronic's haze that th kept going many years for example.

Have any original smells changed at all?

I will say that not enough time has passed for really big changes, but I do know that the smell hasn't changed at all. I wouldn't over-emphasise any changes because changes are the opposite of what I'm trying to achieve. The main goal is stability. But I'm just a small-time hobby grower with limited time and resources.
Actually, one year, I lost a grow because there was an accident and the police were in the area. I had to cull them.
I wouldn't say Anise; extremely earthy. I'll try and get a full olfactory profile this time.

EDIT: Normally, what you do to achieve true stability is you keep crossing them with the original batch of seeds for as long as you can and then cross the latest with the next generation of grandparents, for example. That's really how you get the most favourable best genetics. What I'm doing is slightly simpler, less effective, and harder to manage, but it is easier to grow and keep track of

 

[CharlesU Farley]

I tried to select for health (immediately visible defects), leaf shape, growth speed and size, and colour. Never crossed it with anything.
A few of my photo albums got lost from the time I wasn't active here in IC

I immediately noticed that you didn't mention anything about resin coating, dripping trichomes, etc.

Health and structure are the _key_ to developing quality cannabis!

When the apocalypse happens and alien species come to rule our planet, Hanficking's Purple Haze and Charley Farley's SouthEast Lights cannabis will survive, grow, and get those aliens _high_.

And because we're on the Protected Species list because we created the varietal, we will survive, grow and get high with them!!!!

Hope you understand my Coneheads humor.

 

[CharlesU Farley]

Holy shit!!!

Scrolling up this thread, I actually see a picture of a _staminate_ plant. How refreshing to see that in a sea of feminization, chemical sex reversal, and auto flowering threads.

When I started a thread titled show your studs or something like that a couple months ago and posted this pic, very few people actually responded. I know if you had of seen the thread, you would have responded cuz that's a damn fine looking boy you got there.

I think I've got my settings right to when you post in this thread, I'll get dinged. Hard for an old fuck like me to scan all these threads, but like I said before I'll know I'll learn something from this one so I'll be lurking around.

Damn fine work you're doing!

 

[hanfiking]

Holy shit!!!

Scrolling up this thread, I actually see a picture of a _staminate_ plant. How refreshing to see that in a sea of feminization, chemical sex reversal, and auto flowering threads.

When I started a thread titled show your studs or something like that a couple months ago and posted this pic, very few people actually responded. I know if you had of seen the thread, you would have responded cuz that's a damn fine looking boy you got there.

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I think I've got my settings right to when you post in this thread, I'll get dinged. Hard for an old fuck like me to scan all these threads, but like I said before I'll know I'll learn something from this one so I'll be lurking around.

Damn fine work you're doing!

I honestly don't know why people think males are less important in breeding...

EDIT: here's more balls just for you:

 

[hanfiking]

Sea of Green (too young for any potential defects to be seen) I moved them under 400W HPS because he weather isn't the best at the moment:

 

[CharlesU Farley]

Sea of Green (too young for any potential defects to be seen) I moved them under 400W HPS because he weather isn't the best at the moment:

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How utterly refreshing it is to see seedlings this close together! Most people don't seem to understand that competition is _good_ for cannabis. Every time I see a picture like this, I know those plants will never reach their full potential. Almost feel sorry for them, they're lonely :

 

[hanfiking]

I know a lot of people will hate me for doing this [seedling method], but it's time to cull the first round. At first glance, they were really homogenous, but I found a few weird fingers and even one trifoliate (that should tell you how strong hereditary genetic mutations are and in contrast how little I am influencing).

The first cull over, and I do have some favourites. I will let them grow some more, and then I'll post again when there are only 9 left, which I will take to flower.

 

[El Timbo]

I know a lot of people will hate me for doing this [seedling method], but it's time to cull the first round. At first glance, they were really homogenous, but I found a few weird fingers and even one trifoliate (that should tell you how strong hereditary genetic mutations are and in contrast how little I am influencing).


The first cull over, and I do have some favourites. I will let them grow some more, and then I'll post again when there are only 9 left, which I will take to flower.

Nice to see someone working with the same population for years! What sex ratios do you typically get with this early selection for vigour method? When you choose seeds to plant do you skew the selection in favour of favourite females?

 

[Ganoderma]

I know a lot of people will hate me for doing this [seedling method], but it's time to cull the first round. At first glance, they were really homogenous, but I found a few weird fingers and even one trifoliate (that should tell you how strong hereditary genetic mutations are and in contrast how little I am influencing).

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The first cull over, and I do have some favourites. I will let them grow some more, and then I'll post again when there are only 9 left, which I will take to flower.

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Mmmm micro greens...lol That's where my mind went after seeing that picture

 

[hanfiking]

Nice to see someone working with the same population for years! What sex ratios do you typically get with this early selection for vigour method? When you choose seeds to plant do you skew the selection in favour of favourite females?

good question, and it is actually something that I have noticed. apparently, males stretch more according to literature. But I have always had a higher female count. So whenever I grow, I'm always afraid of not getting any males. I'd say 60-40. But I don't actively look for females. But I will measure them and record them and then we can take bets. In my experience, it's not possible to differentiate by vigor and externalities at this stage.

EDIT: Maybe it is something that I am subconsciously selecting in terms of growth and visual appeal, but I can't define it

 

[hanfiking]

Mmmm micro greens...lol That's where my mind went after seeing that picture

totally, I'm growing chia! except this chia will grow at least 7 ft

 

[RingtailCanyon]

Good job with Old Timer’s! Do you always breed siblings each year? Or do you use multiple generations in each batch? Does that make sense?

 

[hanfiking]

Good job with Old Timer’s! Do you always breed siblings each year? Or do you use multiple generations in each batch? Does that make sense?

Siblings every year. Because it's quicker at eradicating undesirable traits. And it's easier and quicker to organise and control breeding between siblings than over multiple generations, which may require long-term breeding programmes and tracking of genetic traits across many individuals. I'm just small time

 

[RingtailCanyon]

I grow corn and I’ll save some extra seed every year and then I can mix multi generations in each grow. I don’t know if it makes much of a difference though. I imagine it creates some recombinations and diversity that I wouldn’t get from sibling to sibling.

 

[hanfiking]

I was a

I grow corn and I’ll save some extra seed every year and then I can mix multi generations in each grow. I don’t know if it makes much of a difference though. I imagine it creates some recombinations and diversity that I wouldn’t get from sibling to sibling.

I was thinking about keeping a perfect mother or father and then using clones to create seeds from new generations. but electricity prices a bit high for that

 

[hanfiking]

Quick update:

Its the mornin' after. I kept some of the microgreens in case any of the repotted ones need to be replaced:

But here they are:

Stretching for the lights, stretching for the lights, dizzy new heights

They're under 400W MH light, and it's closer than it looks, but the group in the first picture is about 10cm lower. I think they've become a little spoilt.

EDIT: there is one of my favourites that I am a little sceptical about, so I will keep the big group, for now, to see which one of them is the greatest survivor and probably replace it with the competition.

 

[hanfiking]

I have been thinking about creating a new strain from the next generation because you guys have been putting ideas in my head:
To create a new strain, I want to start by creating a new hybrid, Strain 4, by crossing two Indica-dominant hybrids, Strains 2 (GDP) and 3 (Violeta), focusing on their desirable flowering traits. Simultaneously, I'll propagate Strain 1 (OTH) to ensure I have a continuous source of its genetic material through cloning (I don't think it will matter if it is a male or female plant). I'll then cross this newly developed Strain 4 with Strain 1 to produce Strain 5, to blend the Sativa characteristics with the Indica flowering traits. Then, I'll stabilise Strain 5 by selectively backcrossing it with Strain 1 to improve the Sativa traits while retaining the desired flowering characteristics from the Indica hybrid.
I put my plan into chatGPT to give me a table:

EDIT: keeping an Oldtimer mother or father will help me by backcrossing with the most perfect plant and also enjoy some crossing ventures. Dubi gave me a tip to cross in the Purple Pakistani Haze (which I find a great idea)

 

[hanfiking]

Kept the competition just to see what will happen and if there ar any ultra special phenos that I missed.

took them away from the light a little because one or two got too close to the sun, I just realised that we still have 4 months of vegging left... its going to be intense