Oldtimer's Haze
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awesome!!
ker2noir yes i am going to take it inside if i cant finish it outside.....i really dont no how far it is into bloom 110 days maby i am not shure...but if i can get it finish outside ill do that, the plant is inside at night....i get som deep chunk pollen today from a friend i am going to dust it whit highland nepalesse, bubba kush x dc, c99, oldtimers haze.....
thx you very much racoyour haze look very nice to......
peace maffe
thx you very much racoyour haze look very nice to......
peace maffe
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charlie garcia
great work MaFee, looks like going to perfection
Same Raco, you guys just make them look terrorific!
Best success
Same Raco, you guys just make them look terrorific!
Best success
hererisssh
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Hello Dubi, charlie, leet, raco and everyone else interesting in this great preservation.
Fair warning: this question(s) might be too open ended to answer, but I appreciate any help/ideas.
I'm looking to do crosses with two indicas and a single indica in the same manner in which shanti and nevil did the mango haze and nevs respectively. Namely (Indi A x Haze B) x (Indi B x Haze A) and (Indi A X Haze A) x Haze B, where Haze A and B are selections from your stock.
Dubi, I've read through some interesting posts you and leet have had regarding this subject and feel this is the direction I want to take. The first question is how difficult is finding decent males from the current seedboutique or seedbay stock? Are there any predictable traits these males show when you're selecting or is hit or miss requiring many girl boy combos to decide?
I like the idea of including purple and green phenos in the line for the genetic diversity. Do the males that seem to pass on the purpling and wine/grape tastes present in a similar manner as the fems? Do the flowers turn or is the trait obvious in any visible way with the males (maybe purple stems and stocks)?
I've got a fem with a very nice grape taste that I'd like to compliment with your haze line any insight would be great. This is of course hobby breeding so be gentle
Thanks in advance.
Fair warning: this question(s) might be too open ended to answer, but I appreciate any help/ideas.
I'm looking to do crosses with two indicas and a single indica in the same manner in which shanti and nevil did the mango haze and nevs respectively. Namely (Indi A x Haze B) x (Indi B x Haze A) and (Indi A X Haze A) x Haze B, where Haze A and B are selections from your stock.
Dubi, I've read through some interesting posts you and leet have had regarding this subject and feel this is the direction I want to take. The first question is how difficult is finding decent males from the current seedboutique or seedbay stock? Are there any predictable traits these males show when you're selecting or is hit or miss requiring many girl boy combos to decide?
I like the idea of including purple and green phenos in the line for the genetic diversity. Do the males that seem to pass on the purpling and wine/grape tastes present in a similar manner as the fems? Do the flowers turn or is the trait obvious in any visible way with the males (maybe purple stems and stocks)?
I've got a fem with a very nice grape taste that I'd like to compliment with your haze line any insight would be great. This is of course hobby breeding so be gentle
Thanks in advance.
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hererisssh
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If anyone has worked the male side of this equation I'd like to know how long it took for you to get viable pollen. On that note, does anyone have pictures of their OTH boys?
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BreederBrad2 said:Here is some coastal BC Haze, prolly some indica bred into it at some point but some definte spicy haze influenced buds.... these are from BigBag... nice and purple
High Brad
Looks definatly with indica influence but this doesnt mean that could taste hazy! :wink:
How is the cambodian strain you are working with?
bigherb said:
Hello bigherb,
Thanks for your kind of words. We have been working with different colombian strains, wacky weed colombian is more a generic name than a concrete colombian strain. Cannabiogen's Destroyer was bred with a nice wacky weed old colombian type. Our Panama grows and flowers like the best american red sativas (with improved flower density, indoor adaptability and resin production, and a shorter flowering time than original colombian and panama sativas). We tested colombian gold hybrids past season and they were not very interesting.
Charlie and raco are working with a 'moño rojo' red colombian. Soon mangobiche and punto rojo too!
Yes, there are a few crosses in mind with incensey hazes. Incensey Haze x Panama is ready and will be tested in the next months.
Sorry for my english, but what is the difference between incense and frankincense?
Pitt Bully said:
Line 1 x 6 is coming uniform and vigorous towards green haze. Flowers are very resinous and effect very electric. Mother 1 was selected for her balanced growing traits, very strong hermie resistance and electric effect. She is a green/purple haze, male 6 was a completly green haze thaish male, that's why most of the offspring are on the green side.
hererisssh said:Hello Dubi, charlie, leet, raco and everyone else interesting in this great preservation.
Fair warning: this question(s) might be too open ended to answer, but I appreciate any help/ideas.
I'm looking to do crosses with two indicas and a single indica in the same manner in which shanti and nevil did the mango haze and nevs respectively. Namely (Indi A x Haze B) x (Indi B x Haze A) and (Indi A X Haze A) x Haze B, where Haze A and B are selections from your stock.
Dubi, I've read through some interesting posts you and leet have had regarding this subject and feel this is the direction I want to take. The first question is how difficult is finding decent males from the current seedboutique or seedbay stock? Are there any predictable traits these males show when you're selecting or is hit or miss requiring many girl boy combos to decide?
I like the idea of including purple and green phenos in the line for the genetic diversity. Do the males that seem to pass on the purpling and wine/grape tastes present in a similar manner as the fems? Do the flowers turn or is the trait obvious in any visible way with the males (maybe purple stems and stocks)?
I've got a fem with a very nice grape taste that I'd like to compliment with your haze line any insight would be great. This is of course hobby breeding so be gentle
Thanks in advance.
Welcome hererisssh :smile:
Thanks for share your breeding ideas. Im glad to hear oldtimer's haze could be a useful line for your projects.
A cross of this kind : (Indi A X Haze A) x Haze B would produce a very dominant long flowering haze hybrid, similar to neville haze in size and flowering time. You'd probably find a faster recessive earlier pheno with more indica influence but most of the phenos will need 16week+ to flower.
The other kind of cross: (Indi A x Haze B) x (Indi B x Haze A) would be more unstable (varying from relative fast flowering indica dominant plants to long flowering hazy and intermediate phenos) but sure would be more practical for indoor growing, showing more classic 12 week sat/ind phenos. Like a Jack Herer or Super Silver Haze kind of cross.
Results would totally depend on haze parental selection and the genetic ability to combine with your selected indica strain/clones.
Purple haze males are easy to find at flowering time with cold temps, i usually find them around November in my zone, after 8 weeks of flowering and temp under 15ºC.
Of course, you can find good males in our oldtimer's haze. But select and test a haze male is not an easy task. Haze is a very long flowering tropical plant and needs lot of space and time. Testing pure haze offspring and straight haze F1 hybrids takes lot of time. If you are working with several males then testing period should me multiplied.....
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bonecarver_OG
lost of good info in that post dubi!
dubi
thx bro thats great news, destroyer sounds illie do they ship to the states.im fascinated wit cololmbian wacky weed caz im told by my uncle its the strongest shit he eva smoked n i wasnt around then so i was wondering if i could experience the pleasure or handle the power.im into pure indicas i like a knockout stone also nyc haze is som of the strongest n my fav smoke but maybe becaz im younger n not had the pleasure or access n avilability to these pure sativas of yesterday but im soo interested in.
that all sounds great hope all is well .will colombian red be pure?
mangobiche wats that? its sounds special,
punto rojo is that purple colombian?
im excited about these incense hazes.for thought wat about ur smcg x wit that incenesey haze.im not very familair wit cg but the description sounds like a perfect match sandalwood,frankincense,peppery incense cedar.
since you are familiar wit colombian strains .id lov to kno your opinion of which genetics do u think carry the incense traits .g.h. seeds hav many haze wit a description of incense majority wit s.e. asian genetics.although i hav not found a haze wit incense smoke in the dam except for g13haze from the cup which is closest to ny haze ive found, which i believe to be the original. im very interested in figuring this out as to which genes in haze express incense.naturally the plants wit these terpens place of origin is mainly s.e. asia so it leads one to think it should be the thai expression.but this peppery, pissy,frankincense da [frankies]we all kno n lov aka da best nyc haze i belive to be a colombian x mexican.
any input?
frankincense is very familar to me caz its burned in catholic churches frequently especially during funeral mass.there is no diff about frankincense except its a specific tree resin wit diff terpens from diff soil in diff climates.the incense aroma is a staple of nyc haze im fascinated wit n in lov wit .there are several diff types of incense produced ,they pick the resin of trees to produce incense ,perfume ,oil ,medicine, etc.here r som [sandalwood] trees of s.e asia ,[frankincense] trees of south arabia n south africa.incense date back to biblical times ,they r used worldwide.
organic purplewreck n one lov
thx bro thats great news, destroyer sounds illie do they ship to the states.im fascinated wit cololmbian wacky weed caz im told by my uncle its the strongest shit he eva smoked n i wasnt around then so i was wondering if i could experience the pleasure or handle the power.im into pure indicas i like a knockout stone also nyc haze is som of the strongest n my fav smoke but maybe becaz im younger n not had the pleasure or access n avilability to these pure sativas of yesterday but im soo interested in.
that all sounds great hope all is well .will colombian red be pure?
mangobiche wats that? its sounds special,
punto rojo is that purple colombian?
im excited about these incense hazes.for thought wat about ur smcg x wit that incenesey haze.im not very familair wit cg but the description sounds like a perfect match sandalwood,frankincense,peppery incense cedar.
since you are familiar wit colombian strains .id lov to kno your opinion of which genetics do u think carry the incense traits .g.h. seeds hav many haze wit a description of incense majority wit s.e. asian genetics.although i hav not found a haze wit incense smoke in the dam except for g13haze from the cup which is closest to ny haze ive found, which i believe to be the original. im very interested in figuring this out as to which genes in haze express incense.naturally the plants wit these terpens place of origin is mainly s.e. asia so it leads one to think it should be the thai expression.but this peppery, pissy,frankincense da [frankies]we all kno n lov aka da best nyc haze i belive to be a colombian x mexican.
any input?
frankincense is very familar to me caz its burned in catholic churches frequently especially during funeral mass.there is no diff about frankincense except its a specific tree resin wit diff terpens from diff soil in diff climates.the incense aroma is a staple of nyc haze im fascinated wit n in lov wit .there are several diff types of incense produced ,they pick the resin of trees to produce incense ,perfume ,oil ,medicine, etc.here r som [sandalwood] trees of s.e asia ,[frankincense] trees of south arabia n south africa.incense date back to biblical times ,they r used worldwide.
organic purplewreck n one lov
hererisssh
New member
Thanks for taking the time to respond dubi.dubi said:
I think shanti and nevil did a great job of mixing their genes up. It'll be fun to work with the same formulas and see what we can conjure up. Shanti has an interesting read on the mrnice site about male selection. I'm hoping to pick through and work with 2 or 4 males to start depending on the stock I can get.
I appreciate the work put in by the ace/canna OT haze preservation project and I'm very interested in evaluating the OTH's breeding contributions compared with other haze offerings.
We've got the time and the sativa is worth it
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bocil
I put one OT Haze 163,in a few days a put pics,Dubi I put in the salon.I want eat me the OT Haze. 
patolunga2
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hello there my friends!!
yeah is a great info dubi!! now that i´m testing some ot haze x herijuana and ot haze x missisipi mud, i just hope they have that really nice inciensed aroma of the hazes!!
jeje had just read about your question dubi! about the mutant flower.. yes it is a fasciated branch, it had flowers really normal but maked huge buds. i found it in the direct to ground haze.
i also keep a haze mom
maffe nice looking haze you got there!! good luck with her!!
and a few pics of the ot haze x heri girls..
happy growing my friends!! buenos humos
patolunga.
yeah is a great info dubi!! now that i´m testing some ot haze x herijuana and ot haze x missisipi mud, i just hope they have that really nice inciensed aroma of the hazes!!
jeje had just read about your question dubi! about the mutant flower.. yes it is a fasciated branch, it had flowers really normal but maked huge buds. i found it in the direct to ground haze.
i also keep a haze mom
maffe nice looking haze you got there!! good luck with her!!
and a few pics of the ot haze x heri girls..
happy growing my friends!! buenos humos
patolunga.
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bonecarver_OG
ot haze x herijuana...
wow that one gotto be a nice one!!
wow that one gotto be a nice one!!
hererisssh
New member
Is the herijuana the male or female? That sounds crushing, you've got all the extreme bases covered in that cross patolunga.
