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Genghis Kush
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fear does subjugate us.
but..
sad that modern people are so detached from the natural environment that they are blind to the powers of magic.
domestication.
There are virtually, no traditional societies, that deny magic.
It is a key part of the Human survival strategy.
It is part of the natural world.
but..
sad that modern people are so detached from the natural environment that they are blind to the powers of magic.
domestication.
There are virtually, no traditional societies, that deny magic.
It is a key part of the Human survival strategy.
It is part of the natural world.
Powers of magic.
Please explain your philosophies here. What are the powers of magic? Do you believe in (read: have faith) in magic?
How do you define magic? (You personally, not a dictionary)
enochian magick.
book of Enoch was removed from biblical canon because it was considered magick.
According to the myth, this magick was given to the patriarch Enoch by God, and was the means whereby Enoch worked his magick. The magick was preserved past the time of Enoch’s ascension, but in later generations unworthy people began to make use of it. God caused the books to be lost, and sent wicked spirits to spread false magickal systems among the people. (Amusingly, these false systems are based on the use of sigils or "characters", like most of the other magickal systems of Dee’s time, or like modern "Chaos" magick.) Dee’s prolonged and fervent prayers finally caused God to relent, and reveal the magick again.
http://hermetic.com/enochia/enoch-ref.html
Enoch dreams of the flood before Noah and writes of it.
book of Enoch was removed from biblical canon because it was considered magick.
According to the myth, this magick was given to the patriarch Enoch by God, and was the means whereby Enoch worked his magick. The magick was preserved past the time of Enoch’s ascension, but in later generations unworthy people began to make use of it. God caused the books to be lost, and sent wicked spirits to spread false magickal systems among the people. (Amusingly, these false systems are based on the use of sigils or "characters", like most of the other magickal systems of Dee’s time, or like modern "Chaos" magick.) Dee’s prolonged and fervent prayers finally caused God to relent, and reveal the magick again.
http://hermetic.com/enochia/enoch-ref.html
Enoch dreams of the flood before Noah and writes of it.
magic is like..
..in the matrix where the guy says the whole world is an illusion, here take this pill to wake out of it
..and you say, nah, leave me in, and can you rig it so i get 10,000 more points?
it's being aware that there is a veil, but petitioning for benefit or advantage on the fake side of it anyway. cocksucker, jack off artist kinda stuff.
genghis is right, it is a survival mechanism in life and the world... for people who are inferior to life and the world.
it's like i say, "power" is just "owe" in the p.r.
cockriders, the lot of them.
..in the matrix where the guy says the whole world is an illusion, here take this pill to wake out of it
..and you say, nah, leave me in, and can you rig it so i get 10,000 more points?
it's being aware that there is a veil, but petitioning for benefit or advantage on the fake side of it anyway. cocksucker, jack off artist kinda stuff.
genghis is right, it is a survival mechanism in life and the world... for people who are inferior to life and the world.
it's like i say, "power" is just "owe" in the p.r.
cockriders, the lot of them.
Magic- from oed:
Origin
Late Middle English: from Old French magique, from Latin magicus (adjective), late Latin magica (noun), from Greek magikē (tekhnē) '(art of) a magus': magi were regarded as magicians.
The Magi were the ‘wise men’ from the East who visited the infant Jesus soon after his birth. They were said to have been kings, called Caspar, Melchior, and Balthasar, who brought gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. The singular form is magus, and it was originally a term for a member of a priestly caste of ancient Persia regarded as having unusual powers, and the word, filtered through Greek and Latin, is the origin of our magic and magician (Late Middle English). Magic has been used for something remarkable, as in the expression a magic touch, since the mid 19th century and as an exclamation of approval meaning ‘excellent’ since the 1950s.
Origin
Late Middle English: from Old French magique, from Latin magicus (adjective), late Latin magica (noun), from Greek magikē (tekhnē) '(art of) a magus': magi were regarded as magicians.
The Magi were the ‘wise men’ from the East who visited the infant Jesus soon after his birth. They were said to have been kings, called Caspar, Melchior, and Balthasar, who brought gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. The singular form is magus, and it was originally a term for a member of a priestly caste of ancient Persia regarded as having unusual powers, and the word, filtered through Greek and Latin, is the origin of our magic and magician (Late Middle English). Magic has been used for something remarkable, as in the expression a magic touch, since the mid 19th century and as an exclamation of approval meaning ‘excellent’ since the 1950s.
Genghis Kush
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Most cultures of the world have spiritual beliefs that supernatural powers can be compelled, or at least influenced, to act in certain ways for creative or destructive purposes by using ritual formulas. These formulas are, in a sense, magic. By performing certain magical acts in a particular way, crops might be improved, game herds replenished, illness cured or avoided, animals and people made fertile. This is very different from television and stage "magic" that depends on slight-of-hand tricks and contrived illusions rather than supernatural power
i didn't really see that movie, excuse me if my analogy sucks.
like finding out that the universe is a video game simulation (like the end of red dwarf?) then... or like... you find out the big titty blonde you're chatting with is actually a cardboard cutout but you still try to fuck.
it's just sad.
you know? hindu "lila": here's the universe, create cause, experience effect.... whee! place for god to have fun.
magic is an expression of dissatisfaction with causality, the premise of existence, missing the point. straight flatlining gradewise.
if you want to go from A to B, go. zapping from A to B without the journey isn't going to do shit for you except confirm your resolve not to cope with anything. you're doing all this shit FOR something.
there ain't shit universal about trying to do shit for one special part. fuckwits.
when cicadas burst out of the ground IMMMMMM FRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
because they thought they weren't connected.
i hope you can see now that all of the "scientists" in this thread are actually occultists, and that, despite their voluminous protests, all that bullshit really is because they think they can keep people believing dumb bullshit instead of actually using their own volition.
like finding out that the universe is a video game simulation (like the end of red dwarf?) then... or like... you find out the big titty blonde you're chatting with is actually a cardboard cutout but you still try to fuck.
it's just sad.
you know? hindu "lila": here's the universe, create cause, experience effect.... whee! place for god to have fun.
magic is an expression of dissatisfaction with causality, the premise of existence, missing the point. straight flatlining gradewise.
if you want to go from A to B, go. zapping from A to B without the journey isn't going to do shit for you except confirm your resolve not to cope with anything. you're doing all this shit FOR something.
there ain't shit universal about trying to do shit for one special part. fuckwits.
when cicadas burst out of the ground IMMMMMM FRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
because they thought they weren't connected.
i hope you can see now that all of the "scientists" in this thread are actually occultists, and that, despite their voluminous protests, all that bullshit really is because they think they can keep people believing dumb bullshit instead of actually using their own volition.
Genghis Kush
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The magic performed by traditional societies is called Sympathetic magic.
There are two forms of Sympathetic magic, Imitation and Contagious.
Contagious magic is magic that attempts to affect a person through something once connected with him or her, as a shirt once worn by the person or a footprint left in the sand; a branch of sympathetic magic based on the belief that things once in contact are in some way permanently so, however separated physically they may subsequently become.
Imitative magic is magic that attempts to control the universe through the mimicking of a desired event, as by stabbing an image of an enemy in an effort to destroy him or her or by performing a ritual dance imitative of the growth of food in an effort to secure an abundant supply; a branch of sympathetic magic based on the belief that similar actions produce similar results.
There are two forms of Sympathetic magic, Imitation and Contagious.
Contagious magic is magic that attempts to affect a person through something once connected with him or her, as a shirt once worn by the person or a footprint left in the sand; a branch of sympathetic magic based on the belief that things once in contact are in some way permanently so, however separated physically they may subsequently become.
Imitative magic is magic that attempts to control the universe through the mimicking of a desired event, as by stabbing an image of an enemy in an effort to destroy him or her or by performing a ritual dance imitative of the growth of food in an effort to secure an abundant supply; a branch of sympathetic magic based on the belief that similar actions produce similar results.
You guys are getting close
magics are "real" enough, but all of those powers lie within the brain of the person they manipulate
a real simple and abstract example
certain people especially are repelled by snakes and spiders, and this fear is instinctive, born from a time when that fear was most necessary.
certain environmental stimulus, from symbols, scents, herbs, etc can trigger reactions that most people exhibit without conscious knowledge
how do people get stuck into addictive lifestyle decisions? the same mechanism
it extends into personality psychology and other realms that are not supernatural but observed
some people are very highly functioning and understand these triggers and exploit people based on them
psychedelic movement has alot of this going on within it and attunes you to the prevalence
magics are "real" enough, but all of those powers lie within the brain of the person they manipulate
a real simple and abstract example
certain people especially are repelled by snakes and spiders, and this fear is instinctive, born from a time when that fear was most necessary.
certain environmental stimulus, from symbols, scents, herbs, etc can trigger reactions that most people exhibit without conscious knowledge
how do people get stuck into addictive lifestyle decisions? the same mechanism
it extends into personality psychology and other realms that are not supernatural but observed
some people are very highly functioning and understand these triggers and exploit people based on them
psychedelic movement has alot of this going on within it and attunes you to the prevalence
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You mention fuckwits and cockriders, etc.
Who are these people?
The "magicians" or the people who live with no belief in magic?
You make a case against scientists calling them occultists.
In your philosophies, who is right? What is the right thing to do?
I see lots of arguments against, but not many for.
What do you believe?
Edit: As stabbing as this sounds, I promise I am inquiring, not stabbing
You mention fuckwits and cockriders, etc.
Who are these people?
The "magicians" or the people who live with no belief in magic?
You make a case against scientists calling them occultists.
In your philosophies, who is right? What is the right thing to do?
I see lots of arguments against, but not many for.
What do you believe?
Edit: As stabbing as this sounds, I promise I am inquiring, not stabbing
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let's take an example.
what is our spell for? health, wealth, love, money, power?
let's take a love spell. so you're doing a love spell.
who needs a love spell? someone who can't secure love without one.
it's the same for health, et c.
if the universe or a specific person isn't giving you love, there could be a reason!
a "wise" person migh thtink that reason would be possibly worth considering.
a total piece of shit dickhead fuckface on the other hand, wouldn't care about the reason because they are interested in their analysis conditions only: "i need to see what i consider love, fuck any reason why that can't be"
so they loophole the universe and string shit ass backwards because they are too fuckwitted to realise that causality (karma = action) they're ignoring is being compounded by making their loophole.
want some candy?
edit: re: your post, those Qs can be answered with another reading... when i say "scientists" i mean specific people who in this and other thread post lots of "academic reference" bullshit to "prove" that a lot of ****s support fuckwittery.
what is our spell for? health, wealth, love, money, power?
let's take a love spell. so you're doing a love spell.
who needs a love spell? someone who can't secure love without one.
it's the same for health, et c.
if the universe or a specific person isn't giving you love, there could be a reason!
a "wise" person migh thtink that reason would be possibly worth considering.
a total piece of shit dickhead fuckface on the other hand, wouldn't care about the reason because they are interested in their analysis conditions only: "i need to see what i consider love, fuck any reason why that can't be"
so they loophole the universe and string shit ass backwards because they are too fuckwitted to realise that causality (karma = action) they're ignoring is being compounded by making their loophole.
want some candy?
edit: re: your post, those Qs can be answered with another reading... when i say "scientists" i mean specific people who in this and other thread post lots of "academic reference" bullshit to "prove" that a lot of ****s support fuckwittery.
