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lol. it was more of a joke but ok. guess you dont share my kind of humor?
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Ok, now RFID gets scarey
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Can't microwave one of these
U.S. Gov't to Release New Dollar Coins
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=2866499
Even our notes in aus are plastic so can't even wet em up and microwave them.
U.S. Gov't to Release New Dollar Coins
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=2866499
Even our notes in aus are plastic so can't even wet em up and microwave them.
twenty47red-i said:Can't microwave one of these
U.S. Gov't to Release New Dollar Coins
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=2866499
Even our notes in aus are plastic so can't even wet em up and microwave them.
If you're buying an HPS/Quap/Car with coins, you have bigger issues than the Government. This isn't Canada buddy, here in AMERICA we give our change to the homeless, which last I checked wasn't a crime.
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or spend it on cheeseburgers
edit: should've said quaps with cheese, but I had no idea what you meant until I looked it up. hehe.
edit: should've said quaps with cheese, but I had no idea what you meant until I looked it up. hehe.
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Stoney Bologna
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High Everybody,
I see y'all are back to worrying yourselves to death again. Hopefully I can ease some of those concerns by providing the rest of the story. Those little microchips have to be attached to antennas before they can be used as RFID tags. Those antennas don't get much smaller than these little guys right here:
They're about 2-5cm long (on my 17inch screen they appear to be the actual size). If you look at the pictures of these RFID tags you can see a tiny little black square with 3 little lines extending away from the square-- those tiny black squares are the microchips that Verite posted a picture of. Those little things are the integrated circuit, or the brains, of the tag. They store the tags' data and also control the antennas. The antennas are the copper colored squiggley shaped patterns. Remember folks, those microchips are useless unless they are attached to those much larger antennas. The only reason RFID integrated circuits are so small is to reduce the cost it takes to make them. The reason they want them cheaper is so that RFID can replace the barcode.
Happy Growing,
Stoney Bologna
I see y'all are back to worrying yourselves to death again. Hopefully I can ease some of those concerns by providing the rest of the story. Those little microchips have to be attached to antennas before they can be used as RFID tags. Those antennas don't get much smaller than these little guys right here:
They're about 2-5cm long (on my 17inch screen they appear to be the actual size). If you look at the pictures of these RFID tags you can see a tiny little black square with 3 little lines extending away from the square-- those tiny black squares are the microchips that Verite posted a picture of. Those little things are the integrated circuit, or the brains, of the tag. They store the tags' data and also control the antennas. The antennas are the copper colored squiggley shaped patterns. Remember folks, those microchips are useless unless they are attached to those much larger antennas. The only reason RFID integrated circuits are so small is to reduce the cost it takes to make them. The reason they want them cheaper is so that RFID can replace the barcode.
Happy Growing,
Stoney Bologna
fr33th3w33d
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i believe the soon to be national id card will have an rfid chip in it. thats why when they do come out, im sure as fuck not carrying one.
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I'll sink mine in the fucking lake if it ever comes to that. Better yet rip out my micro chip when the days come.
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No but you could stick a magnet to them and prolly fuck something up.
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The report only covered a chip large enough to store an ID number. You carry a wallet full of ID numbers right now, what's the difference if the number is printed on paper or in a chip......Power requirements for transmitters increase exponentially with distance from a receiver, you'd have to carry a cellphone or car battery to get that thing to transmit anything but a puff of smoke when it touches the power it needs. And the chip would almost have to be touching a scanner, anything sensitive enough to pick it up would probably get interference from your body functions and brain waves - wait why not skip the tracking phase and just go for the direct transmission of brainwaves! Jeesus.
Start seriously worrying when they figure out how to include a database storage hard drive and how to use that data. It's all smoke and mirrors to fuel the paranoia fanatics that shout "foul" at anything they can't understand.
Scary? Yeah, but not as scary as the chip you already have in your house in your coffeemaker, new HDTV, cellphone, digital watch, not to mention your car. They all have the same potential - with the same caveats, they can't "phone home." I'm sure the government is paying dearly to figure out how to fix that.......but mankind will be extinct by the time they think they will be able to use it to track anyone.
Take a chill pill and focus your energy on something worthwhile, like repealing antiguated laws relying on ancient warped data and fueled by paranoia of fanatics.
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They are already working on the solution. The first step is shown here. Technology always gets ahead at first until some bright spark comes up with a way to prevent it. You can also buy a scanner very cheaply which will show you any hidden RFID devices in range.
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,62468,00.html
The problem with security is you always have to let someone in. Nothing is secure anymore, from us or them. Nor will it ever be again.
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,62468,00.html
The problem with security is you always have to let someone in. Nothing is secure anymore, from us or them. Nor will it ever be again.
privacy ??? hahahahahahahahahah
Stoney Bologna
Member
Verite said:
Correct. It is true that most things can be made into an antenna for certain frequencies with the proper tuning. In the US and most other countries adopting RFID, the radio frequency band designated for RFID is the 915MHz band. This is the radio frequency band that is absorbed by water. So, in the case of RFID, one cannot use the human body as an antenna because the human body is mostly water. Also, antenna's do not get any smaller than approximately 1/6 the wavelength of the signal. The wavelength of a 915MHz signal is about 30cm. So this means that most RFID antennas should be about 5cm+/-. Period.
Stoney Bologna
Member
I'm glad some one here is taking a realistic stance instead of one based on unfounded speculation. Every one comes to these threads about RFID and starts naysaying and talking about all these imaginary threats that don't even exist! They base the're claims off of sensationalized opinions found on conspiracy theory websites and the like. Then more poeple join in with their unfounded speculation and then we're left with a big fricken stew pot full of misinformation.
Thanks 1toke! for being a voice of reason on the subject.
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As far as I know both coins and notes of currency have surface areas greater than 5cm.
This is my main problem, extinction of the free market.
Period.
This is my main problem, extinction of the free market.
Period.
