oh my god help me? (pics)

[teddybud]

ok so in a period of a week this has happened to my beautiful cascadia... any ideas?
its in normal soil with a bit of added phosorous, domo lime, epsom salt, perlite
fed with tigerbloom and big bloom, ph of soil is 6.3, temp gets to 83 max usually 78-80 its a little warm but its the best i can do. here are the pics plz help me not loose this one.





oh yea I'm also having some minor issues with this plant in veg.









same soil mix, fed with big grow once a week.

thanks for any help

 

[Sleepy]

check the pH of your run off...

looks like a toxicity/overfert compounded by pH out of whack.



use less fertilizer

 

[teddybud]

hmm 1/2 tsp of tigerbloom and 1/2 tsp of big bloom to much fertilizer? and is 6.5 runoff to much?

 

[Sleepy]

feeding every time is too much (in my opinion)...

pH 6.5 is right on...

but what is the pH of the runoff??

 

[teddybud]

6.5 is the runoff when I feed, and soil ph is 6.3 also I don't feed everytime I feed once a week.

 

[Sleepy]

ok....good...having stable pH is good!

try giving them a good flush with plain water...

they should come around...

 

[Brownpants]

I think your killing it with love.

Cut back on feedings and waterings.

Or better yet Re-pot it in some new soil.

I hope it turns around.

-BP-

 

[sproutco]

How much lime did you use? How much epsom salts was added? What's normal soil? When did you last repot? Is the plant in veg in the same soil mix as the flowering plants?

 

[Guest]

I'm a hydro newbie so I can't offer much soil advice

Go to the thread that mynamestitch put up here in the Infirmary...VERY informative with pics

While looking at your pics, I'd say you have a severe potassium and/or iron deficiancy problem...Scorched edges and curled tips, and dead patches points in that direction...Check under those 2 catagories to find the cure...Like I said, I'm a newbie, but that's what it looks like to me

HURRY before its too late...Must have been going on for quite a while to look like it does...That lady looks pretty bad

 

[dre86]

I'd give them plain (perhaps pH neutral / distilled water) water for a week now

 

[Erin Kerrik]

Is there any possibility your dog peed in the bucket or something?

I will defer to the experts, but it seems to me that if all plants have been receiving similar fertilizing a nute or PH problem would not show up so severly in one plant while the others do just fine.

If it was mine, I'd suspect something is wrong with the root system. Can you gently lift/knock/shake the container off to inspect? Regardless of what I saw, I might shake and wash all the soil off the roots, soak for 15 minutes in a B1 solution and repot in fresh soil. The only thing you have to lose is a few days growth on a severely sick plant ...

 

[Sleepy]

I think your killing it with love.

Cut back on feedings and waterings.

Or better yet Re-pot it in some new soil.

I hope it turns around.

-BP-

yes, repotting would help...that is a small container.

 

[Sleepy]

I think your killing it with love.

Cut back on feedings and waterings.

Or better yet Re-pot it in some new soil.

I hope it turns around.

-BP-

yes, repotting would help...that is a small container.

how long has she been in 12/12 for?

 

[teddybud]

she's been in for like 6 weeks I believe.. I guess I'll try repoting it...

sprout - I added 1/2cup of domo, 1/4 cup epsom to a 16 quart bag of pinebark based soil with a bit of perlite, and a bit of added phosphorous for root growth. I water whenever the soil gets dry about a 1 inch and a half down. and I only feed once a week. with less then half of what fox farm suggests.

 

[sproutco]

For a bark based potting soil your ph is high. Ph in soilless mix should be 5.6-6.2. Your using too much lime. 1/2 cup = 8 tablespoons in 16 quarts = 2 tablespoons per gallon of soil mix. Then you added epsom salts which was not really a good idea.

Looks like hardcore potassium deficiency. Feed the flowering plant potassium nitrate for a few feedings instead of the normal bloom ferts. This is the ingredient in some stump removers at hardware stores maybe homedepot or lowes. Dexol and green light are two brands but there are others. Check the label for ingredients. Use 1/2 teaspoon per gallon of water.

For the veg plants if your using the same soil recipe, the ph will be high. Looks like you got a copper deficiency if the burn is occurring on the newest growth at the top. Looks like in the one picture the margins/edges of the leaves on the top growth is darker green than the interior/middle of the leaf. I think I might follow everyones suggestion and go ahead and repot into soil with no added phosphorus, no epsom, and a lower rate of dol. lime. You may want to spray with a copper fungicide if what I described is occurring. You may also want to switch the feeding a few times to potassium nitrate just like the flowering plants once you get it repotted.



Be sure to adjust your fert water ph after mixing to about 6.

 

[MynameStitch]

dood that plant is severly root bound!!! get it out of that pot, how often are you feeding?

Even if you are feeding right the rootboundness of the plant will halt growth of the plant and nutrient issues

you got potassium issues and micronutrient issues like mangense it looks like

get it out of that pot!! like right now!

how often are you feeding and how much? have you testing the ph too?

 

[Endo]

im gonna go out on a limb here and say its the foxfarm grow big... i had the same problem at first... what might be happening or what happened to me i should say was that i was using growbig as a fert, but with that stuff you cant feed the roots when they are dry.... you have to water and then about 10 min later water again... feeding the roots while dry just makes them very unhappy plants.... it burned everysingle one of my plants, one of them particularly badly that it took it like 3 weeks to recover. a friend from another forum actually called foxfarm about this and it was confirmed, i guess we are not the only ones with this problem. i just stopped using growbig all together... it wasnt worth the hassel... my advise lay off the nutes and if you can flush your soil with nice clear water for a bit.

good luck

endo

 

[teddybud]

thanks for the answers.. had to go away for a week there.. getting back ontop of stuff now.. I'll hit you back with some results.