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OH GEE!!!! OG (Karma Cut) Los Angeles - 60 Days

medikush

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This came from weedtracker originally, and posted by Mysta. I have not seen it here, so thought I would reproduce it. I have read all kinds of philosophies and ideas about OG and Bubba Kush, and where they came from, but this post makes the most sense, having now grown them both.

OG Kush, Bubba Kush and The West Coast Dog.
"In late '93 John from Grass Valley Ca. got the Chem Dog cut. He shared it with me, Jerry(cowboy) from Dibble Creek Ca. and Harold(Putz) from Sunset Beach Ca. Putz had a male he called the secret ingredient. It was a cross of Lemon Thai and an Old World Paki Kush. Putz bred the secret ingredient to the Chem Dog. The buds that came out of this cross were going around So. L.A. county in '95. Someone told Putz that Kush must be so good because it was mountain grown. Putz laughed and told him "this Kush is Ocean Grown Kush bro". The tag stuck and it became known as OG Kush. In the spring of '96 Putz married a girl from New Zealand. Before moving there he sent cuts of his OG to me and Bob(beans) in Salinas Ca. He gave all his P1 stock and all the remaining seed he had to ****(mad dog) from Downey Ca. In late '96 **** sold some seed to some guys in the Valley. That's where the San Fernando Valley cut of OG comes from. It's like the Original only more sat in pheno type. **** sold a cut of the original to a guy in Orange county and that cut is called Larry today. It's still around Orange county. **** sent one other cut of the original OG to a breeder in Europe. As far as I know he never let anyone else have it.
Jerry bred his Chem Dog cut to a Humboldt county indica boy. This was the beginning of his cubing proccess. At BX3 he got a pheno that had all the smell, taste and kick of the Chem Dog, but in a pure indica pheno. Jerry gave this plant to Bob. It became known as the West Coast Dog.
Bob bred this plant to my Old World Kush male. He took a male from that cross and bred it to the OG cut Putz had sent him. This is what made the original Bubba Kush.
Jerry's cubed version of Chem Dog is what I sell as White Mustang".
 
G

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GZA said:
if the above is true where do the abusive and ghost cuts come from? s1?

*Disclaimer* I could be wrong about what's posted next

I think medikush is growing the ghost cut. The ghost cut is an S1 from Orgnkids seeds - OGers Kush. Those are fem'd seeds from Abusives cut i think... :chin:


 
G

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That story comes from sierra seeds and its purpose is to sell product. This does not completely discredit it but it leaves doubt in my mind.

guerilla
 

beancounter

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some have speculated that Oger's might be a STSed cross between SourD/ECSD and the Abusive OGK cut..

some say Ogers grow almost identicaly to ECSD in veg, and the flavor has some ECSD 'fuely' traits..

the above is just observations from some people who have grown the OGers cut along side ECSD and the Abusive cut..

I'll be growing the OGer cut pretty soon so i'll be able to see for myself, regardless of all the lineage i hear it's a definate keeper, and it sure looks nice :yummy:
 
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medikush

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beancounter said:
some have speculated that Oger's might be a STSed cross between SourD/ECSD and the Abusive OGK cut..

some same Ogers grow almost identicaly to ECSD in veg, and the flavor has some ECSD 'fuely' traits..

the above is just observations from some people who have grown the OGers cut along side ECSD and the Abusive cut..

I'll be growing the OGer cut pretty soon so i'll be able to see for myself, regardless of all the lineage i hear it's a definate keeper, and it sure looks nice :yummy:

I also grow REAL Sour Diesel, the cutting, not from seed. They are not alike at all, as far as I can tell. Sour Diesel is different in it's bud growth...i.e. density, thickness/fluffiness..Sour Diesel is lighter and airier, overall. Smell is not as lemon as the OG, but has the fuel....I would speculate that my OG is crossed with Sour D., from it's smell, but that seems to be a distinct trait of OG, probably the lineage of Sour D is similar to OG...maybe the lemon thai background is stronger in one or the other....but that seems ot be the source of the "sour"...in OG and most likely Sour D. as well.....
 

beancounter

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jus passing on some info i have read/heard from other growers, this is not from my experience.. It may not be the case, but it's just another story/thought about this particlar cut i thought i'd put out there..

I'll be making my own observations between all 3 cuts soon enough..
 

RUDEBOI

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S4vvy said:
*Disclaimer* I could be wrong about what's posted next

I think medikush is growing the ghost cut. The ghost cut is an S1 from Orgnkids seeds - OGers Kush. Those are fem'd seeds from Abusives cut i think... :chin:



What up S? Well from my understanding Ogers Kush S1 was supposed to be SFV O.G. selfed. Orgnkid was doing a bunch of breeding at the time he created his CaliKush seed line. He had so much going on that he decided to "Contract" out the work on some of his offerings 2 strains in particular were the Ogers Kush S1's & Blackberry S1's AKA Very Berry Surprise. GE(GoldEyes) was responsible for reversing the SFV clone and made the Ogers beans. The Blackberry's were made by another breeder that was part of the now defunct BBSB. Anyways to make a long story longer, I often wonder myself if GE, did the switcharoo and used the abusive cut instead of the Real SFV O.G. cuz it was less stretchy than SFV and didn't have the Lemon-Pinesol Fuel smell but strongly resembles the SFV. Things that make you go HHmm :chin: LOL
Either that or maybe SFV O.G. doesn't take well to STS? :confused: I wonder if anyone has done any serious testing on the stability/instability of STS strains in terms of consistancy and variance?
Isn't it time somebody selfed the Real O.G. Kush again to see what becomes of the progeny :chin: I dunno but I vote for Blue Dog and his Triangle Kush as the Kush strain Most wanted to see hit with STS!
 
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RUDEBOI said:
What up S? Well from my understanding Ogers Kush S1 was supposed to be SFV O.G. selfed. Orgnkid was doing a bunch of breeding at the time he created his CaliKush seed line. He had so much going on that he decided to "Contract" out the work on some of his offerings 2 strains in particular were the Ogers Kush S1's & Blackberry S1's AKA Very Berry Surprise. GE(GoldEyes) was responsible for reversing the SFV clone and made the Ogers beans. The Blackberry's were made by another breeder that was part of the now defunct BBSB. Anyways to make a long story longer, I often wonder myself if GE, did the switcharoo and used the abusive cut instead of the Real SFV O.G. cuz it was less stretchy than SFV and didn't have the Lemon-Pinesol Fuel smell but strongly resembles the SFV. Things that make you go HHmm :chin: LOL
Either that or maybe SFV O.G. doesn't take well to STS? :confused: I wonder if anyone has done any serious testing on the stability/instability of STS strains in terms of consistancy and variance?
Isn't it time somebody selfed the Real O.G. Kush again to see what becomes of the progeny :chin: I dunno but I vote for Blue Dog and his Triangle Kush as the Kush strain Most wanted to see hit with STS!

Sup RUDEBOI. Caught this on my email right when i was about to crash. Thanks for the info on the OGersKush, a lot of stuff i never knew about. Notice i put up a disclaimer just in case. Gotta do it when you workin with purely regurgitated info ;)

As far as selfing the TK - Blue Dog if you out there and need some STS materials for the job don't be a stranger. :wave: I got more than i'm gonna ever need i think...
 

JDOG6000

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Just a little correction...that quote came from KK at Motarebel's site.
Not sierra seeds.
Just wondering, what seeds is KK trying to sell with this story?
 
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THCV

clearly, what our industry needs is DNA paternity/maternity testing! :D Then we could all be sure of which OG Kush we got our hands on...
 

JDOG6000

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So true.
This OG thing reminds me of the whole G13 thing.
But if we could test our cutting some how that would be great.
Identifying these strains is near impossible.
It took me a years to figure mine out. And it is still just an opinion, you know.

I was just wondering what seeds he was trying to sell.
Because as far as I know. He only sells a Sour D hybrid(An indica x Sour D) and a chemdawg Bx.(Chemdawg'91 x Westcoast DOG)

No OG or Bubba or any Kush Hybrids.
So it doesn't make sence that that story was for selling seeds.IMO
 
G

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G man....can i get some assistance?

G man....can i get some assistance?

already on it=)
Blue Dog Beanery coming soon..
flavors on deck and the orgy to come.....
TK
McFly, Tittyfucker, and Stinkylee( 3 phenos of my sour queen x c99 pineapple )
Mr White( a descendent of the original Gainesville Green)
Grape
g13 x burmese
and a few others.........
let the hating begin!
 
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RUDEBOI

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^^^^^^^Ain't No Hatin', Lemme be the first to Congratulate!LOL^^^
We need more people like you to get in the bean game, sounds like some dank offerings.

BTW-Who's not gonna buy a strain called "TITTYFUCKER"!!lLOL
 
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RUDEBOI

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medikush said:
Jerry bred his Chem Dog cut to a Humboldt county indica boy. This was the beginning of his cubing proccess. At BX3 he got a pheno that had all the smell, taste and kick of the Chem Dog, but in a pure indica pheno. Jerry gave this plant to Bob. It became known as the West Coast Dog.

Jerry's cubed version of Chem Dog is what I sell as White Mustang".

I guess what he was tryin' to sell was "White Mustang". Thor(DVP'sGod Bud X Sour Diesel) wouldn't really be relative to this discussion I don't believe.
 
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dankiestog

that likes like Kush..looks really good .....but no yield there ...looks like alot of stem to bud ratio..not trying to be an ass...i think u need more light...for bigger swell...but good job ..
 

JDOG6000

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Not really the right thread for this but real quick.
But ,I see what you meant by trying to sell his WM.
But that was posted at a tiny site that hardly anyone goes to. GSA...
Also, White Mustang has nothing to do with OG or Bubba,anyway.

Blue Dog, do it up bro.
Sounds awesome.
 

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