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Off the shelf retail store screw-in LED and CFL bulb comparisons

Hey guys! Great thread. Thank you blynx for the inspiration! :tiphat:

I have a budget micro grow: Super Skunk - Sensi Seeds, 11 days into flowering, previously had 21 days 18/6 and 8 days 14/10. I've done some topping and LST. Stretched a lot after switching to 12/12. Cab is H 57x50x30cm and I run 6x12w E27 Leds. Had some PH issues at the beginning that were fixed with some vermiculite tea. No carbon filter as I don't really need it, but anyway, the smell is almost inexistent at this time.

First picture is last day of 14/10. In these pictures it looks like it has too much distance from the lights but during veg I used to keep it 5 cm from bulbs and gradually lowered the pot, now with all the stretching some tips are 3 cm from bulb. Hope it will remain like this.

All the best and happy growing! :tiphat:
Should be fine. If anything super crop the tallest branch or try tying it down further. I used to super crop but I dont like the stress it puts on my girls.
 

Terpene

I love the smell of cannabis in the morning
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Pineapple x Sour Sunset x Fruity Pebbles OG (OG pheno) at chop under 25w per sqft of LED:

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IndiGio

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Second week- Strawberry Amnesia

This time i prefered started with 56w cfl and pass to 30w cfl and 25w led after a few days of check because in the previous growing i had some temperature and uptake problems.Now It looks perfect and grow fast!



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Hastings

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Hastings: difficult to say... doesn't look like nute burn to me... PH? mites? I'm not the best to provide advice on that though :)

It turned out to be nothing I guess? LOL... I did raise the lights a bit, haven't top dressed again, and everything is normal. Normal except overcrowding of course. I flipped to 12/12 a week ago.

It's kind of an experiment in overcrowding, based on a paper I read published in the Annals of Botany. This one: https://academic.oup.com/aob/article/108/1/207/100338

Oh by the way, I'm up to 840 watts now in SILS. I screwed in the remaining bulbs and turned on the third 20-bulb fixture as soon as I flipped.
 

sanducu

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Super Skunk - 32 days into flower. supplemented with some banana peel tea, starting to fatten up :D
 

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IndiGio

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Hello guys..wtf is this?It's the second time since i work in a small place(40x40x70)with led.I thought an iron deficit because only new leaves are affected and the plant seems grows slowly but maybe you can help me better.Thanks.

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Hastings

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Update again... my 4 white widow plants with 840 watts of SILs in a 5x5 tent. This is "organic"... and just water needed from seed to finish:

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Looks like this scales up as much as you like!
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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Hello guys..wtf is this?It's the second time since i work in a small place(40x40x70)with led.I thought an iron deficit because only new leaves are affected and the plant seems grows slowly but maybe you can help me better.Thanks.

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sorry i should have directed this to you the first time. the plant you show on the previous page looks like hemp russet mite damage. they attack the emerging new shoots.
 

El Tigre

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Update again... my 4 white widow plants with 840 watts of SILs in a 5x5 tent. This is "organic"... and just water needed from seed to finish:

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Looks like this scales up as much as you like!

Man what a wonderful grow. What kind of bulbs are you using? i mean wattage and °K. i've seen also some blurps. What distance from plants do you keep?
 

Athos

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Tip: watch out for canopy distance, it can be the difference between an OK grow, and a impressive one.

What canopy distance works best for you Repuk?

I have come to believe that placing the bulbs as close as possible is not the best course of action, I can place them as close as 3 inches without trouble, but the plant ends up miniaturized and the colas end up small; I think that the trick might be in letting the plant grow into the light, while keeping a distance of 12 inches maybe.

Your thoughts guys?
 

Terpene

I love the smell of cannabis in the morning
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It depends on the bulb’s wattage. The 14-16w LEDs need about 10cm off the bulbs or the plants start to suffer. At less than 5cm the plants really fall off. The 9-12w units are less intense and can probably be run up to 3cm from the bulb with the max safe canopy at 6-8cm.

I rely on a cheapie light meter to figure out my canopy. Minimum canopy brightness is 750, maximum is 2000. Over 2000 and the plants start stressing quickly.
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Jacket (P'91 x Bros Grimm Princess Diesel x CBG Destroyer) roughly 6-7 weeks in. If you look closely, you can see "1K" on the wall in the background as a note to myself thats where the ideal canopy brightness is. The top of that cola is probably at 1700.
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Dr.Young

K+ vibes
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I think canopy spread is another big thing.... My 7 bulb fixture with 14w is 98w in basically 1'x1' fixture .... So 10cm away I would be roasting plants lol. I gotta lift it up so its hits a 2'x2' at 25w per sqft. I have them nearly 75+cm away in veg setup... In flower Id probably need them at least 30cm away.... If I had them spread out properly Probably bout 10-15cm lol... Massive differences
 
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