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Obama considering clemancy for cannabis crimes

Ez Rider

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Right wing raving, conflation & innuendo- my Fave. Self styled Libertarians need to take a close look at their bed partner, the corporate/ authoritarian right wing. You know, the people who pay Vadum to formulate le garbagio. He's a shill.

I feel a little bit dirty having even read that. It's shameful. The rest of his stuff is just as bad-

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/61184/Vadum/155

Look who's talking. My guess is you were "a little dirty" well before this thread came up:tiphat: Holder's record is quite clear. Why must the TRUTH always be "right-wing raving & innuendo" whenever you don't like it? Your delusions are mildly amusing at best.
 

Jhhnn

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Look who's talking. My guess is you were "a little dirty" well before this thread came up:tiphat: Holder's record is quite clear. Why must the TRUTH always be "right-wing raving & innuendo" whenever you don't like it? Your delusions are mildly amusing at best.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

Meanwhile, there's a new retail pot shop opened up a few blocks from my house, & hundreds of others across the State. Grow shops are very big business around here, too, and nobody's afraid to go inside. I could toke up on my very public front porch with lots of foot traffic on the sidewalk, & there's nobody to bust me, not even the DEA.

I'll give credit where credit is due, with Obama & Holder being a big part of that.
 

bentom187

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Right wing raving, conflation & innuendo- my Fave. Self styled Libertarians need to take a close look at their bed partner, the corporate/ authoritarian right wing. You know, the people who pay Vadum to formulate le garbagio. He's a shill.

I feel a little bit dirty having even read that. It's shameful. The rest of his stuff is just as bad-

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/61184/Vadum/155

Bed partner ? you mean our door mat to a open venue.

Throwing out the word corporations like it means inherently evil, sort of misses the point that they get all their privileges from government, and the government is itself a corporation. (Fascism according Mussolini)
There is something wrong with picking winners and losers through the political process. Unfortunately that will happen as long as there is a aristocracy that says they govern everything. To make it small and as impotent as possible would be the realistic political solution.

I'm all for eliminating it entirely though. Requesting services from people based on their merits is what the free market provides for us. We do it every day in all aspects of our lives with the exception of government relations, they just tax us regardless of what they do.

28 U.S. Code § 3002 - Definitions(15) “United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.

The authoritarians exist on both sides, they both want to live at the expense of subjugating others for their agendas, actual individual rights are violated in pursuance of these goals. Both require heavy taxation, lies and handouts so they stay in office. Both love war or at least act in exactly the same manner regarding it.

The libertarians have been the only anti authoritarians, and the establishment works hard to keep them off the radar.

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Try to take more than just my posts on their face and research what they have been saying all along. Individual liberty, private property (you own yourself and the fruits of your labor), and free trade and association, and anti war (violence only in self defense). Have all been its pillars.

Feel free to check it out.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/content.php
 

Ez Rider

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Yadda, yadda, yadda.

Meanwhile, there's a new retail pot shop opened up a few blocks from my house, & hundreds of others across the State. Grow shops are very big business around here, too, and nobody's afraid to go inside. I could toke up on my very public front porch with lots of foot traffic on the sidewalk, & there's nobody to bust me, not even the DEA.

I'll give credit where credit is due, with Obama & Holder being a big part of that.
:laughing::laughing::laughing:
What do retail pot-shops(who needs them?), garden stores(perfectly legal), or you puffing on your "very public front porch"(semi rude and irresponsible at best) have to do with the fact that holder has aggressively pursued a race based, activist based agenda, rather than impartially implementing the laws of this country? Talk about a shill...

Personally, I was going to the garden store, and smoking without fear well before I ever heard of o'bummer or holder, or Colorado for that matter. Any more straw men you'd like to hold up? Can you offer any real defense of holders dismal record? I'd like to see it...
 

Jhhnn

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:laughing::laughing::laughing:
What do retail pot-shops(who needs them?), garden stores(perfectly legal), or you puffing on your "very public front porch"(semi rude and irresponsible at best) have to do with the fact that holder has aggressively pursued a race based, activist based agenda, rather than impartially implementing the laws of this country? Talk about a shill...

Personally, I was going to the garden store, and smoking without fear well before I ever heard of o'bummer or holder, or Colorado for that matter. Any more straw men you'd like to hold up? Can you offer any real defense of holders dismal record? I'd like to see it...

Haters gonna hate, huh?

Check the topic. Try to remember that repeating the same thing over & over again doesn't make it true.

I'm having trouble hooking up to the idea that correcting racial disparities in the Justice system is a "race based agenda" for any purpose other than the one stated.

Or do you think that black people should be locked up longer than white people for the same crimes? Should black people be arrested much more often for drug crimes even though the usage rate is much the same as for whites? Does that really mean we have impartial enforcement?

Those are the questions that Holder's "race based agenda" address.

Do you normally object to activists trying to correct injustice? Or should we just ignore that stuff, play internet tough guy?

You're entitled to your opinion, twisted as it is, but don't expect it to go unchallenged.
 

Ez Rider

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Haters gonna hate, huh?

Check the topic. Try to remember that repeating the same thing over & over again doesn't make it true.

I'm having trouble hooking up to the idea that correcting racial disparities in the Justice system is a "race based agenda" for any purpose other than the one stated.

Or do you think that black people should be locked up longer than white people for the same crimes? Should black people be arrested much more often for drug crimes even though the usage rate is much the same as for whites? Does that really mean we have impartial enforcement?

Those are the questions that Holder's "race based agenda" address.

Do you normally object to activists trying to correct injustice? Or should we just ignore that stuff, play internet tough guy?

You're entitled to your opinion, twisted as it is, but don't expect it to go unchallenged.
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Do you own a mirror? You really need to take an honest look at yourself. Hypocrisy is unseemly. Good day to you sir:tiphat:
 

Green lung

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? Should black people be arrested much more often for drug crimes even though the usage rate is much the same as for whites? Does that really mean we have impartial enforcement?
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They suck at being good drug dealers........ain't my fault they get caught more.


They can't compete with those clever white drug dealers.


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mrcreosote

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I guess it's entirely impossible that violent crime is heavily skewed towards the minority segment of the population per capita.

I guess someone has to defend the appalling rates of violent black on black crime with Eric Holder.
Of course, with a history like "Fast and Furious", I would expect no less.

Oh, don't forget the new pending legislation to suspend more white kids from school to keep the 'equal outcome' numbers in sync.

If a black kid pulls a knife on a teacher, then 9 whites have to get suspended for talking in class or passing notes.

It's only 'fair'.
 

Jhhnn

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I guess it's entirely impossible that violent crime is heavily skewed towards the minority segment of the population per capita.

I guess someone has to defend the appalling rates of violent black on black crime with Eric Holder.
Of course, with a history like "Fast and Furious", I would expect no less.

Oh, don't forget the new pending legislation to suspend more white kids from school to keep the 'equal outcome' numbers in sync.

If a black kid pulls a knife on a teacher, then 9 whites have to get suspended for talking in class or passing notes.

It's only 'fair'.

Gawd. The subject is drugs, not violence-

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RoadRash

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I think what matters is that after so long being demonized, drug use is being talked about in civil and informed manner at the highest levels.

and here's looking forward to when it's talked about in a civil, informed, and stoned manner !

Though of course, it's important to have seating for non-smokers and non-Cannabis-users. :dance013:
 

Green lung

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Gawd. The subject is drugs, not violence-

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One is % drug users and the other is drug war prisoners


that tells me that white folks are the main users of drugs but it seems the dealers are black and hispanic.

Thats no surprise that law enforcement would go after dealers rather than the end user.

You apparently want to see more white drug users in prison, I don't think we need more users in prison I think they need treatment not prison.


I don't hink this a surprise to anyone, go to ghetto and you will see white crack heads and black dealers all day long.


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Jhhnn

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One is % drug users and the other is drug war prisoners


that tells me that white folks are the main users of drugs but it seems the dealers are black and hispanic.

Thats no surprise that law enforcement would go after dealers rather than the end user.

You apparently want to see more white drug users in prison, I don't think we need more users in prison I think they need treatment not prison.


I don't hink this a surprise to anyone, go to ghetto and you will see white crack heads and black dealers all day long.


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Nice bit of false attribution as to what I want- it's the last refuge of the argumentatively challenged. It's the same wrt your claim that dealers "seem to be" black or hispanic.

I seriously doubt that you ever go near the "ghetto" but rather repeat what you believe is true.
 

Ez Rider

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Nice bit of false attribution as to what I want- it's the last refuge of the argumentatively challenged. It's the same wrt your claim that dealers "seem to be" black or hispanic.

I seriously doubt that you ever go near the "ghetto" but rather repeat what you believe is true.

What does a dope from Colorado know about the "ghetto"? Your sanctimonious drivel is laughable.
 

tokinblackguy

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It simply amazes me that every single time Obama does something, good or bad, how closet racists come out of the wood works to take shots at the entire black community. Geez, enough already, we know you don't like/hate us, I will pray for your kind and hopefully you'll be blessed with a little understanding and acceptance of those not like you.

For the record, I don't like Obama myself, didn't vote for him, and don't support many of his policies. I don't however, hate all the black folks that voted for him, same as I don't hate the white population for Bush, Reagan, or any other white guy that have presided over that seat. Truth is, no matter who they put in that chair, they are not working for you or I and that's FACT. I voted for Ron Paul but he didn't make it that far, if that makes a difference.

It's obvious that many of the folks that posted in this thread have never seen, been to, or knew anyone from the "ghetto" and their words reflect such. Since you're blaming us for everything that is wrong with this country, you might as well go ahead and throw meth on us too. I could say some stereotypical filth about that but I won't, that would make me as big a hypocrite as you and would accomplish absolutely nothing in the end.

We're not all bad people and I refuse to continue to let you label us as such. "Black" crack dealers......really dude, so no whites have ever dealt crack before? Crime is crime and drugs are drugs and they see no color as far as I'm concerned, please choose your words more carefully. People should be judged based on their own merits, acts, and deeds and not lumped into a one size fits all category. Every single race on the planet has some good apples and some bad and of course some really judgmental, hateful apples.

All's I'm trying to say is, please try to let the hate go, it's a useless emotion these days. I don't see your color, I only see YOU.
 
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Jhhnn

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What does a dope from Colorado know about the "ghetto"? Your sanctimonious drivel is laughable.

I'm old, I've been around, a lot. Unlike a lot of whites, black people don't scare me.

You're right about Denver- the worst block in 5 points is nicer than the best block in East St Louis, last time I checked. Black people have done relatively well here, in general, largely because of less racist discrimination & better opportunities.

And, uhh, what would a guy like you know about it, other than what you see on Fox, read somewhere on Freeperville?
 

Jhhnn

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It simply amazes me that every single time Obama does something, good or bad, how closet racists come out of the wood works to take shots at the entire black community. Geez, enough already, we know you don't like/hate us, I will pray for your kind and hopefully you'll be blessed with a little understanding and acceptance of those not like you.

For the record, I don't like Obama myself, didn't vote for him, and don't support many of his policies. I don't however, hate all the black folks that voted for him, same as I don't hate the white population for Bush, Reagan, or any other white guy that have presided over that seat. Truth is, no matter who they put in that chair, they are not working for you or I and that's FACT. I voted for Ron Paul but he didn't make it that far, if that makes a difference.

It's obvious that many of the folks that posted in this thread have never seen, been to, or knew anyone from the "ghetto" and their words reflect such. Since you're blaming us for everything that is wrong with this country, you might as well go ahead and throw meth on us too. I could say some stereotypical filth about that but I won't, that would make me as big a hypocrite as you and would accomplish absolutely nothing in the end.

We're not all bad people and I refuse to continue to let you label us as such. "Black" crack dealers......really dude, so no whites have ever dealt crack before? Crime is crime and drugs are drugs and they see no color as far as I'm concerned, please choose your words more carefully. People should be judged based on their own merits, acts, and deeds and not lumped into a one size fits all category. Every single race on the planet has some good apples and some bad and of course some really judgmental, hateful apples.

All's I'm trying to say is, please try to let the hate go, it's a useless emotion these days. I don't see your color, I only see YOU.

Thank you, sir.
 

SpasticGramps

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I don't hink this a surprise to anyone, go to ghetto and you will see white crack heads and black dealers all day long.
You kill me man. Absolutely killing me.

This is a socioeconomic issue not race. It's a phenomeon that occurs throughout the world. Poorer communities look to underground sources of income because of lack of opportunity. No matter the race. Whatever race dynamics arise from the relationship are symptoms of the socioeconomic situation of the community.

Stop watching so much TV, it's not how the real world is. Read a non-fiction book or better yet get on a plane and go see the world. Something.
 

Green lung

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It simply amazes me that every single time Obama does something, good or bad, how closet racists come out of the wood works to take shots at the entire black community. Geez, enough already, we know you don't like/hate us, I will pray for your kind and hopefully you'll be blessed with a little understanding and acceptance of those not like you.

For the record, I don't like Obama myself, didn't vote for him, and don't support many of his policies. I don't however, hate all the black folks that voted for him, same as I don't hate the white population for Bush, Reagan, or any other white guy that have presided over that seat. Truth is, no matter who they put in that chair, they are not working for you or I and that's FACT. I voted for Ron Paul but he didn't make it that far, if that makes a difference.

It's obvious that many of the folks that posted in this thread have never seen, been to, or knew anyone from the "ghetto" and their words reflect such. Since you're blaming us for everything that is wrong with this country, you might as well go ahead and throw meth on us too. I could say some stereotypical filth about that but I won't, that would make me as big a hypocrite as you and would accomplish absolutely nothing in the end.

We're not all bad people and I refuse to continue to let you label us as such. "Black" crack dealers......really dude, so no whites have ever dealt crack before? Crime is crime and drugs are drugs and they see no color as far as I'm concerned, please choose your words more carefully. People should be judged based on their own merits, acts, and deeds and not lumped into a one size fits all category. Every single race on the planet has some good apples and some bad and of course some really judgmental, hateful apples.

All's I'm trying to say is, please try to let the hate go, it's a useless emotion these days. I don't see your color, I only see YOU.



Are you crack dealer lol I didn't label you a crack dealer, why would you lump yourself in with Black crack dealers.


We can talk about meth, do you think there are more white guys manufactures of meth or black guys? I am willing to bet that there are more whites in prison for meth than blacks in prison for meth. There is nothing racist about acknowledging that fact, I'm not calling all white guys methheads btw.


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Green lung

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You kill me man. Absolutely killing me.

This is a socioeconomic issue not race. It's a phenomeon that occurs throughout the world. Poorer communities look to underground sources of income because of lack of opportunity. No matter the race. Whatever race dynamics arise from the relationship are symptoms of the socioeconomic situation of the community.

Stop watching so much TV, it's not how the real world is. Read a non-fiction book or better yet get on a plane and go see the world. Something.

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I agree, the poor whites seem to be into manufacturing and selling meth.


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