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Obama considering clemancy for cannabis crimes

4tokin

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http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-to-c...om-thousands-of-prisoners-20140422-zqxpx.html

Washington: The Obama administration is beginning an aggressive new effort to foster equity in criminal sentencing by considering clemency requests from as many as thousands of federal inmates serving time for drug offences, officials said.
The initiative, which amounts to an unprecedented campaign to free non-violent offenders, will begin immediately and continue over the next two years, officials said on Monday. The Justice Department said it expects to reassign dozens of lawyers to its understaffed pardons office to handle the requests from inmates.
''The White House has indicated it wants to consider additional clemency applications, to restore a degree of justice, fairness and proportionality for deserving individuals who do not pose a threat to public safety,'' Attorney General Eric Holder said on Monday. ''The Justice Department is committed to recommending as many qualified applicants as possible for reduced sentences.''
Mr Holder announced a series of initiatives to tackle disparities in criminal penalties, beginning in August, when he said that low-level, non-violent drug offenders with no connection to gangs or large-scale drug organisations would not be charged with offences that call for severe mandatory sentences. He has travelled across the country to highlight community programs in which non-violent offenders have received substance-abuse treatment and other assistance instead of long prison sentences.
Underlying the initiatives is the belief by top Justice Department officials that the most severe penalties should be reserved for serious, high-level or violent drug traffickers. On April 10, after an endorsement from Mr Holder, the US Sentencing Commission – the independent agency that sets sentencing policies for federal judges – voted to revise its guidelines to reduce sentences for defendants in most of the nation's drug cases.
In the meantime, however, thousands of inmates are still serving federally mandated sentences that imposed strict penalties for the possession of crack cocaine. The Fair Sentencing Act, which President Barack Obama signed in 2010, reduced the disparity between convictions for crack and powder cocaine, and Mr Obama has called sentences passed under the older guidelines ''unduly harsh''. The law also eliminated the five-year mandatory minimum sentence for the simple possession of crack cocaine.
''There are still too many people in federal prison who were sentenced under the old regime – and who, as a result, will have to spend far more time in prison than they would if sentenced today for exactly the same crime,'' Mr Holder said. ''This is simply not right.''
For about two decades, severe sentences were imposed on offenders convicted of trafficking or possession with intent to traffic crack cocaine in the belief that the substance was more addictive than powder cocaine, inexpensive and linked to violent crime. But in 2002, the sentencing panel found that sentencing guidelines were based on misperceptions about the relative dangers of crack cocaine compared with other drugs. The commission also found that the disparity had created a racial imbalance in which harsh sentences had been disproportionately imposed on minorities, particularly African-Americans.
In December, Mr Obama commuted the sentences of eight inmates serving long prison terms for crack-cocaine convictions handed down before the 2010 law was passed. Six of the eight were serving life sentences, including two who had not previously been convicted. Each of the eight had served more than 15 years for a crack-cocaine offence.
Washington Post


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-to-c...f-prisoners-20140422-zqxpx.html#ixzz2zb4uM6OS
 

mrcreosote

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Great news for black crack dealers...

Not so much for white cannabis dealers.

Them's the breaks in affirmative action land.
 

Midnight Tokar

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That original news story was about a white chick who was sentenced to 30 years for conspiracy over a few ounces of meth. She wouldn't snitch on her then husband and so the DA requested the maximum. She has now served over 20 years for a non-violent crime.

Also interesting was how Obama is pissed at the person responsible for submitting cases for clemency. Seems he's only submitted white collar criminals who are rich. Obama has slated that douche for removal and is asking for more input from others.

I think Obama has only granted clemency for something like a dozen people so far, Reagan had about 50 times that many.
 

Jhhnn

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Great news for black crack dealers...

Not so much for white cannabis dealers.

Them's the breaks in affirmative action land.

Lots of attributions in that, some of them a bit unsavory.

If he wanted to test the waters, gauge the mood of the public, starting out with black crack dealers was smart. If he can get away with pardoning them, some of the most sensationalized "villains" known to White America, there are obviously a lot of others who may well be pardoned. I somehow doubt that mere marijuana offenders will be overlooked.
 

m314

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In a just world, he'd end enforcement of the prohibition laws and free everyone who's in federal prison just for drugs. That won't happen, but it's good to hear that at least some people might get out early.
 

thaicat

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For those of you who've somehow not yet figured it out. Obama is a joke. A common clown or puppet that's motivated by the highest bidder...Much like our entire "Government."
 

m314

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For those of you who've somehow not yet figured it out. Obama is a joke. A common clown or puppet that's motivated by the highest bidder...Much like our entire "Government."

The American public now supports legalization, at least for weed. Obama's at the point now where he might gain politically from taking steps towards legalization. It's an unrelated issue, but Obama didn't start supporting gay marriage until the majority of the public was in favor of it. I don't expect him to make major changes with weed, but there's a chance.
 

ozeek

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Great news for black crack dealers...

Not so much for white cannabis dealers.

Them's the breaks in affirmative action land.

Whoever finds that post helpful has no idea of how easy it is for a person to be
Tried and convicted of conspiracy by the feds.Nonviolent offenders go to jail
For that and a persons race dont matter.That comment was in very poor taste
 

4tokin

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Does it matter the color of their skin.
Does it matter what ones choice of poison is.
Does it matter the color of their money is.
Does it matter that thousands across your country are rotting in prisons for some times petty crimes.
I think what matters is that after so long being demonized, drug use is being talked about in civil and informed manner at the highest levels.
 

Sisu

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Talk is cheap. Inasmuch as Obama has the power to do so, he should just do it. Fuck a bunch of talking about it. Lay it out as a moral imperative and stand by it.
 

Ez Rider

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How about COMPLETE AMNESTY/PARDONS for ALL NONVIOLENT drug offenders? Anything less is a cynical lie. Unfortunately, that's one of Barry's few specialties.
 

Jhhnn

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The American public now supports legalization, at least for weed. Obama's at the point now where he might gain politically from taking steps towards legalization. It's an unrelated issue, but Obama didn't start supporting gay marriage until the majority of the public was in favor of it. I don't expect him to make major changes with weed, but there's a chance.

He already *has* made major changes with non-enforcement of federal law here in Colorado & in Washington. Policy-wise, they'll do the same in other States that legalize, too. That's enormous, a complete reversal of policy held & enforced for 75 years.

Every day they let us make it work is another nail in the coffin of cannabis prohibition, and they knew it from the start.
 

HempKat

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For those of you who've somehow not yet figured it out. Obama is a joke. A common clown or puppet that's motivated by the highest bidder...Much like our entire "Government."

Not just Obama but every President since Kennedy.
 

stoned-trout

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just remember they like to keep jails and prisions full..if they let some out, some more need to go back in ....beware folks
 

mrcreosote

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Whoever finds that post helpful has no idea of how easy it is for a person to be
Tried and convicted of conspiracy by the feds.Nonviolent offenders go to jail
For that and a persons race dont matter.That comment was in very poor taste


Hey, don't cry about me.
I don't create the reality.
I just report it.
Take a look at Holders 'to do' list and balance it out with what he 'should do'.
It ain't exactly color-blind.

I find that to be in very poor taste.
 

Jhhnn

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Hey, don't cry about me.
I don't create the reality.
I just report it.
Take a look at Holders 'to do' list and balance it out with what he 'should do'.
It ain't exactly color-blind.

I find that to be in very poor taste.

Perhaps you failed to notice the very uneven enforcement inflicted on the Black & Hispanic communities by mostly White law enforcement.

http://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/lifetimechance.html

Willful blindness is like that. So are some other things.

I could cover the page & a few more with links to the same thing.
 

Ez Rider

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Perhaps you failed to notice the very uneven enforcement inflicted on the Black & Hispanic communities by mostly White law enforcement.

http://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/lifetimechance.html

Willful blindness is like that. So are some other things.

I could cover the page & a few more with links to the same thing.

What exactly does that have to do with the fact that Holder has an agenda that's based on race? Willful blindness is like that:tiphat:
 

Ez Rider

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Quote Holder, OK?

Nevermind- I'll do it for you-

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tate-university-commencement-address/9212279/

Which of his remarks are untrue, which ones do you take issue with?

:laughing: baaaaah.

Rather than quoting a known liar, why don't we take a look at his ACTIONS...
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/61184

A fairly succinct and accurate listing of mr.holders many misdeeds. Quoting a politician is like quoting a liar...who fucking cares?
 
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Jhhnn

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:laughing: baaaaah.

Rather than quoting a known liar, why don't we take a look at his ACTIONS...
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/61184

A fairly succinct and accurate listing of mr.holders many misdeeds. Quoting a politician is like quoting a liar...who fucking cares?

Right wing raving, conflation & innuendo- my Fave. Self styled Libertarians need to take a close look at their bed partner, the corporate/ authoritarian right wing. You know, the people who pay Vadum to formulate le garbagio. He's a shill.

I feel a little bit dirty having even read that. It's shameful. The rest of his stuff is just as bad-

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/61184/Vadum/155
 

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