Nutrient for stronger stems?

[goingrey]

Title says it all, is there something that makes a definite noticeable difference?

I'm thinking along the lines of silica or something..

 

[DARKSIDER]

Silica space temperature the usual get rid of weak branches am guessing the list could be endless waiting for more to come along and add to your question should be interesting goingrey

 

[Sub24ox7]

Potassium silicate and a breeze some air movement.

 

[goingrey]

Potassium silicate and a breeze some air movement.

So potassium silicate is better than regular silica? That would mean Growth Technology Liquid Silicon is the one to go for from hydro store options.

 

[DARKSIDER]

i think liquid silicone is soluble silica i use the one above but think they are similar to be honest but thats just my opinion plenty more out there

 

[goingrey]

i think liquid silicone is soluble silica i use the one above but think they are similar to be honest but thats just my opinion plenty more out there

Potassium silicate 6% is what they say. Which I suppose means 94% water, might check if they have some powder at the hardware store, lawncare section I suppose.

 

[flower~power]

Title says it all, is there something that makes a definite noticeable difference?

I'm thinking along the lines of silica or something..

Original - Power SI

Original PowerSI is a proprietary concentrated MSA biomix containing highly bioavailable silica, micro, and macro nutrients. Find a store today.

powertotheplants.net

 

[Zeta Reticuli]

Equiestum arvense plant is full of organic silica and best choice for strenghten plant stems and branches,
made tea with her and apply 3 days in a row,spray over hole plant.

 

[GenghisKush]

Diatomaceous earth/Wollastonite (trade name Vansil W20) at ~1 gram / liter of medium, or topdressed, should do the trick.

I avoid adding any silica to nutrient solution because I want to avoid any precipitation.

 

[goingrey]

I avoid adding any silica to nutrient solution because I want to avoid any precipitation.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean, precipitation?

 

[William76]

I use growth techs silicon,used it for years now,helps make nice strong stems and healthy plants!,76

 

[mountainoutlaw]

Silica from RAW. sea-K kelp extract from GreenLeaf Nutrients

 

[mr.brunch]

A nice strong-ish breeze seems to strengthen mine

 

[mudballs]

Silica discuss is my kryptonite...plant only uptakes 0.05% of its mass in Si...it's what's called a non-accumulator...but i digress
Nutrient for stronger stems?
Biosynthesis of lignin
What is lignin
We want a nute scheme that pushes the plant to produce more lignin....not so much cellulose as much as lignin...so i just now found this, so anybody that catches what increased NPK ratio will support increased lignin production beats me to it

 

[GenghisKush]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean, precipitation?

I have had issues with silica "coming out of solution" as pH of nutrient solution rises, which has (for me) caused clogged emitters. I no longer add extra silicon to my nutrient solution. Instead I amend my media with DE or Wollastonite. Rice hulls work too. Check out this article.

Approaches to Supplementing Silicon in Soilless Media and the Value of Silicon in the Mitigation of Drought Stress

Silicon (Si) is not considered an essential element for plants to complete their lifecycle, but is known to be beneficial for plants under environmental stress such as drought. Unlike natural soils, Si is minimally bioavailable in soilless media. With indoor agriculture and greenhouse production...

digitalcommons.usu.edu

 

[mountainoutlaw]

The RAW line from NPK industries does not clog emitters or sprayers or bounce.ph. Not all silica is the same. It sure helps me in early veg, mandatory.
A fan set around . medium and shaking the little stems helps too.

Lower lighting height helps as well.

 

[chronosync]

Wallastonite or calsil 2655 ?

Calcium Silicate

 

[mudballs]

We want phenols or phenolics to increase. Found it
However, excessive nitrogen fertilizer significantly decreased the mechanical strength of stalk and the lodging resistance by reducing lignin biosynthesis in buckwheat, rapeseed and japonica rice [71,72,73]. Kong et al. [74] found that the addition of K+ could significantly alleviate the effect of high NH4+ on the wheat culm strength. Therefore, it was suggested that the decrease of lodging resistance induced by nitrogen fertilizer was possibly related to the inhibition of uptake of K+ which increased the lignin accumulation in the vascular bundles
Overview of Plant Phenolic Compounds
We want phosphates and glucose high production...so Nutrient for stronger stems?
Higher K in ur NPK...go too high in ur N and you defeat urself, even with Si supplementation

 

[mudballs]

God i miss Jidoka...hope you get better

 

[goingrey]

Wallastonite or calsil 2655 ?

Calcium Silicate

I wonder if Terra Aquatica / General Hydro Silicate would also be this, they say it "offers calcium to the plant" as one of the selling points.