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nuthin but a g thang- ppk expiriment

Grow4Flow

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never heard of Swirskis, google did yield much either, are they beneficial insects like mantis and ladybugs? where can they be bought?
 

Mikell

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Yeah I'm a bit of a smartass sometimes. Spelling mistakes I know well :D
 

Nuecoyote

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I believe they hang out under the leaves, but not so much hanging out as they are constantly moving fast looking for food. Ive seen them feeding on sap from broken branches, leaf pulling ext. and with 1000 swirkskis + a plant i have never seen feces but I've only been using these guys for a year. Hard to catch them with a naked eye but possible so feces at that point must be microscopic and not in groups so id think the flowers are safe :D

You are certainly welcome and thank you! I just thought I remembered from one of the Harborside despensary TV shows seeing a guy bring in his bud hoping it'd make it through inspection but under the microscope they found too much feces and dead bugs...but I think it was the spider mites that were the offenders in this case.

Nice thread....
 

lilac.rain

Member
I've seen that episode... I like that dudes braids. Those turds look bigger than the swirski mite. Their shits gotta be tiny! ill get some macros of my next crop to see. Got a crawler on some tape last night and its a swirski. Still crawling my permitter a fucking whole month later! love those guys.
 

Nuecoyote

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Ok...will be interested to see...I think maybe the disappointment of the grower is the sole basis for my concern...
 

Miraculous Meds

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Love this thread, u got ur shit on point. So it looks like 18 gal planters on 27 gal lower res. U using turface? U and HL inspire me to step it up. I do vert donut ppks on screens, but Ive always wanted to do a "x" grow I call it. I change shit all the time and it usually costs me so I told myself run this set up for a year at least, but...

So Im curious which style is easier to maintain since I think they yield about the same. IDK, Whats ur take on the ease or pains of tying shit up and canopy management?

Sorry for all the q's u just got me intrigued. This goes for u to hl45, if u got any knowledge u wanna drop on me.
 
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Gry

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Neat thread. Not seen it before, but I sure do like what you have done here.
 

lilac.rain

Member
Love this thread, u got ur shit on point. So it looks like 18 gal planters on 27 gal lower res. U using turface? U and HL inspire me to step it up. I do vert donut ppks on screens, but Ive always wanted to do a "x" grow I call it. I change shit all the time and it usually costs me so I told myself run this set up for a year at least, but...

So Im curious which style is easier to maintain since I think they yield about the same. IDK, can u hit 1.5gpw in these 5 light setups? Whats ur take on the ease or pains of tying shit up and canopy management?

Sorry for all the q's u just got me intrigued. This goes for u to hl45, if u got any knowledge u wanna drop on me.

Hey man. Cant seem to find my camera charger. My rooms did ok, the blue dreams got so big they ripped the trellis off the wall and they flopped on the floor. tried to stand them up without success so i took them down at 7 weeks. still yielded decent though. no 1.5gpw. Gotten that once. I have only been doing this for a year and a half, and am restricted by my 10x10 rooms. WIth 1000w bulbs it seems too bright and i think i could achieve larger plants without the limited room. Still is worth doing though. Green cracks at 45 days are some of the nicest flowers I've seen come out of this system from anyone. Tastes fruity, nice racy high. Photos of that will be up soon, a friend took some nice photos. I got 2 per on the green cracks, but it was my first time with this strain and would do them 2x as big. The two rooms have since been replaced with pineapple x rom, and mr. nice.Blue city diesel and incredible bulk are next, I'm excited for this mango phono i got out of the IB. As for tying up plants, i place about 3ft tall fencing inside the turface top bucket (yes i use turface) to train it at transplant. then the galvanized cement wire 7ft sections 3ft tall fits perfectly on top of the bottom bucket and around the top. Then i use the greenhouse yo yo's to tie the branches to the wire. Its my weakest link. Need to get the 6ft tall cement wire and make big cages next. Yes i believe its a ten gallon top bucket. Haven't done the donut yet.
 

Miraculous Meds

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Sorry to hear about the bd. Its good it grew so well, but sucks it fell over. Ive got a green crack going, 1st run so it sounds promising. Does it not stretch much, I take it by u saying u would do it twice as big?

The donuts are efficient but require a lot of training. I think that is the case with trying to max out yields in any style, training, and canopy management.
 
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lilac.rain

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If u think its too much light, freds talks about using 600's in the corners. That would cut ur light and heat down. Wouldn't surprise me if u got the same yields with the 600's in the corners. 3400w hitting 10p's, would put u in at 1.25gpw or so. He also talks about chicken wire on the ceilings to spread out the branches. Might be a good idea for ya. So u kinda cage around them for training then? Was wondering if u had to crawl underneath shit, but with the cages sounds like u might restrict them enough to have work room.

Sorry to hear about the bd. Its good it grew so well, but sucks it fell over. Ive got a green crack going, 1st run so it sounds promising. Does it not stretch much, I take it by u saying u would do it twice as big?

The donuts are super efficient but require a lot of training. I think that is the case with trying to max out yields in any style, training, and canopy management.


I use flip boxes so i do turn down the bulbs until later in flower if both rooms are going at the same pace. Lots and lots of crawling. Ill post photos of this other blue dream room i am not even able to crawl on the floor. not much space anywhere, well see how it yields but it looks good. Green cracks, barely stretched. on a 4.5 foot plant they stretched about a foot. That was a sealed room and had co2, some greasy sparkly sheet.
 
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