NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THIS - The Kalergi Plan.

[Sunshineinabag]

The way your mind thinks/works / functions is ummmmm....I can't find the right word

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Cierto. Yo solo parafraseo y cito al propio Gypsy y "sus curiosas clasificaciones raciales"... Leelo en sus propuos mensajes...
...Según otra de la que se hizo eco en otro hilo, yo seria " No blanco Hispano", y mi inteligencia seria menor a los verdaderos blancos "blancos rosas", je... Eso si, al menos tengo el consuelo de ser más inteligente que mi vecina Lorena, que la pobre es más negra que una noche sin luna....

True. I only paraphrase and quote Gypsy himself and "his curious racial classifications"... Read it in your own messages...
...According to another one that was echoed in another thread, I would be "Not white Hispanic", and my intelligence would be less than the real "white pink", he... But at least I have the consolation of being more intelligent than my neighbour Lorena, who is blacker than a moonless night....

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- You shouldn't be questioning your intelligence Montuno - so far I am quite impressed with your ability to continue this conversation - when its fairly obvious that English is not your Mother tongue - but I must admit - that the translation leaves much to be desired - since it looks like its far from perfect -

- what are these 'curious racial classifications' - which you seem to have attributed to me? - 'Not White Hispanic' - what's that all about ?

- Can we get you off the 'race' waggon - and onto the Mass Immigration one? -

 

[Sunshineinabag]

Idk man we were fucking like rabbits during colonial times ...I doubt melatonin really tells the tale lol

 

[Montuno]

- you are welcome to your opinion - but personally I don't see 'race' even to be part of the argument - its about MASS IMMIGRATION - regardless of 'race' -

- and I have seen this from both sides - as the resident - and as the immigrant -

Gypsy, creo (y espero) que solo eres, en realidad, una marioneta de esas "elites" que crees denunciar al publicitar descabellados planes como este. "Elites" que con la publicidad de estos "planes", persiguen justo todo lo contrario de lo que esos "demoniacos planes" proclaman... Solo son otra estrategia mas del fascismo y la ultraderecha para lograr sus fines...:
Piensa, Gypsy, mi hermano (y lo digo sin ironia, pues probablemente descendamos de una misma mujer que hace decenas de miles de años tuvo que emigrar desde la actual Etiopia) que para ello deben lograr que tu miedo al otro (a perder o diluir tu identidad cultural ante el otro), sea igual o mas fuerte, que el miedo del otro a la pobreza/injusticia/guerra/etc...
Mientras el miedo del otro sea mas fuerte (pues es mas real), que tu miedo a diluirte culturalmente ante el otro...,el otro seguira abandonando su tierra para buscar la riqueza/justicia/paz/etc, en tu tierra...
...Y que solucion es mas sencilla (recurramos a la pura termodinamica para intentar explicar echos historicos/politicos/sociales, algo muy propio del "Marxismo autentico", por cierto, je...) eliminar guerra, injusticia y pobreza de la casa del otro..., o inflar tus temores hasta limites insospechados desde la comodidad de una habitacion con un teclado?

Gypsy, I think (and hope) that you are really just one of those "elite" puppets that you think you are denouncing by publicising crazy plans like this. "Elites" that with the publicity of these "plans", pursue just the opposite of what those "demonic plans" proclaim... They are just another strategy of fascism and the ultra-right to achieve their goals
Think, Gypsy, my brother (and I say this without irony, since we probably descend from the same woman who tens of thousands of years ago had to emigrate from the present day Ethiopia) that for this to happen, your fear of the other (of losing or diluting your cultural identity in the face of the other), must be equal to or stronger than the other's fear of poverty/justice/war/etc...
As long as the fear of the other is stronger (because it is more real), than your fear of cultural dilution in front of the other..., the other will continue to leave his or her land in search of wealth/justice/peace/etc, in your land...
...And what solution is simpler (let's resort to pure thermodynamics to try to explain historical/political/social facts, something very typical of "authentic Marxism", by the way, he...) to eliminate war, injustice and poverty from the other's house..., or to inflate your fears to unsuspected limits from the comfort of a room with a keyboard?

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[Montuno]

- You shouldn't be questioning your intelligence Montuno - so far I am quite impressed with your ability to continue this conversation - when its fairly obvious that English is not your Mother tongue - but I must admit - that the translation leaves much to be desired - since it looks like its far from perfect -

- what are these 'curious racial classifications' - which you seem to have attributed to me? - 'Not White Hispanic' - what's that all about ?

- Can we get you off the 'race' waggon - and onto the Mass Immigration one? -

Cierto y te ruego lo tengas en cuenta. Puedo ver como un simple término desvirtúa toda la traducción. Por eso estoy escribiendo primero en mi lengua materna.
Te aclaro que aunque "combata" tus ideas con argumentos irónicos, mi tono es de total respeto.

En cuanto a la "clasificación racial" que publicaste, es la segunda vez ya que pones en duda el haberla publicado. Lo hiciste antes en otro hilo (no se si el de "Black lives" o en el de "Socialismo", y otros miembros y yo tuvimos que recordarte que si lo hiciste. Yo no atribuiría una idea tan desagradable para mi a un inocente de haberlo echo: me estarías llamando algo mucho peor que mentiroso...
Salud para todos.

True, and I ask you to bear this in mind. I can see how a simple term distorts the whole translation. That is why I am writing first in my mother tongue.
I would like to make it clear that even though I "fight" your ideas with ironic arguments, my tone is one of total respect.

As for the "racial classification" you published, this is the second time as you question whether you published it. You did it before in another thread (I don't know if "Black lives" or "Socialism", and other members and I had to remind you that you did. I wouldn't attribute such an unpleasant idea for me to an innocent person if I had done it: you would be calling me something much worse than a liar...
Cheers to you all.

 

[Montuno]

Idk man we were fucking like rabbits during colonial times ...I doubt melatonin really tells the tale lol

Ya lo dice la canción, je...
The song already says it, je..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=99dFTtp8IIc

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Hmmm - I'm not so sure you are so right Montuno with your assumptions - if we were talking about Amazonian Indian tribes being encroached upon in their homelands by other groups of humans via mass immigration - bringing their own invasive culture/religion/crime and politics - I dare say that you might have more sympathy - than for those in Wales -

- I have no problem with sensible immigration policies - so long as the native people get a say in how they are to accept and treat immigrants within their own societies - and how many they can reasonably accept - if any at all -

 

[Montuno]

Hmmm - I'm not so sure you are so right Montuno with your assumptions - if we were talking about Amazonian Indian tribes being encroached upon in their homelands by other groups of humans via mass immigration - bringing their own invasive culture/religion and politics - I dare say that you might have more sympathy - than for those in Wales -

- I have no problem with sensible immigration policies - so long as the native people get a say in how they are to accept and treat immigrants within their own societies - and how many they can reasonably accept - if any at all -

Como tu bien comentabas, la traducción hace imposible definir totalmente la intención del párrafo.
Pero si acaso sugieres que yo pueda tener preferencias raciales entre amerindios y galeses, estas totalmente equivocado... Mis antepasados, además, se destacaron matando a ambos por igual..

As you said, translation makes it impossible to fully define the intent of your paragraph.
But if you are suggesting that I may have racial preferences between Amerindians and Welsh, you are totally wrong... My ancestors, moreover, excelled in killing both equally...

 

[flylowgethigh]

- yes - it is an interesting term - so I looked it up:

liberal elite

noun often derogatory
the group of people in a society who are considered as having a high level of education and liberal ideas -

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/liberal-elite

* it does say 'derogatory' -

A liberal elite flies their private jet to Davos and talks about how to clamp down on CO2 emissions. A linberal elite will dictate that restaurants have to have masks or close, while they party like it 1999. I could go on and on. But if you look at the justice system for these liberal elites, it is way different from that applied to us on the bottom. Take the clintons for example...

 

[Sunshineinabag]

Looks are secondary to performance

 

[member 505892]

A liberal elite flies their private jet to Davos and talks about how to clamp down on CO2 emissions. A linberal elite will dictate that restaurants have to have masks or close, while they party like it 1999. I could go on and on. But if you look at the justice system for these liberal elites, it is way different from that applied to us on the bottom. Take the clintons for example...

They aren't really very liberal then.... even if they assume that title.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

But if you are suggesting that I may have racial preferences between Amerindians and Welsh, you are totally wrong... My ancestors, moreover, excelled in killing both equally...

- Yes - it always ends up with a tribal killing - or massacre - since humanity is still inherently tribal - some tribes are more dominant than others - and all of them are supremacist of nature - so they fight to dominate one another - whether that is an ethnic, political/religious, national or sports tribe - or any other group of like minded people in the same gang or club - often I think that this word 'racism' is just a new way of saying 'TRIBALISM' -

- Mundari tribes-person from Africa - wearing a corset -

 

[Montuno]

I try to point you towards the moon, but I can't get you to stop looking at my finger...
And it is in your speech that I seem to see nostalgia for "times past"...
Surely you, like me, are the fruit of mixtures of different tribes (and in my case even of different continents) and we cannot even speak their languages... The neolithic revolution was the beginning of the end of tribalism.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I try to point you towards the moon, but I can't get you to stop looking at my finger...
And it is in your speech that I seem to see nostalgia for "times past"...
Surely you, like me, are the fruit of mixtures of different tribes (and in my case even of different continents) and we cannot even speak their languages... The neolithic revolution was the beginning of the end of tribalism.

- I point at the earth - and you are looking at the moon - so perhaps we are at crossed purposes?

- Naturally we are within an ever-changing world - and if you have lived for over half a century or more - then you may have had a past which you grieve for - good memories don't die easily - particularly if the present has not much to be desired -

- as for my genealogy - as with most all humans - I am a hybrid of a hybrid - a polyhybrid - and as far as I can tell - there has not been any selective breeding or in-breeding going on amongst my ancestors - from what I can research - (although I could be wrong)

- If The Neolithic revolution was the beginning of the end of tribalism - how come that its still very evident throughout all societies to this very day? - to me a tribe could be a religion, a particular ethnic group, a political party - a mob of football supporters from one team - an army/navy - any group of like minded individuals who have their own agenda/mission/credo - all of them have one thing in common - they are all supremacist's - and believe that their team, family, ethnic group, religion, military, politics, deity and dogma are the very best - and all others are lessor beings since they are 'un-believers' - 'heretics' - 'apostates' - so of less value as humans - and once de-humanized one tribe becomes prey to the other - very easily -

- It is sad to think that this is still human nature - at this particular point in history - after most of the lessons of the past have been long forgotten -

 

[Sunshineinabag]

Talks cheap my brown pride dude

 

[Microbeman]

White and pink? Wtf

That's what gringos are called - pink people - ha

 

[Montuno]

Talks cheap my brown pride dude

Good commentary for the first messages of this thread...

...If you want I pay you also to praise you the string of fascist paranoia that is released in this thread...

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Good commentary for the first messages of this thread...

...If you want I pay you also to praise you the string of fascist paranoia that is released in this thread...

- we are happy to help you release your fascist paranoia - and could maybe even start a 'Fascist Paranoia' thread - especially for you - lol

* perhaps you could start one yourself?

 

[Montuno]

- we are happy to help you release your fascist paranoia - and could maybe even start a 'Fascist Paranoia' thread - especially for you - lol

* perhaps you could start one yourself?

"Fascistoide" was translated as "Fascista" by my translator, from the original in Spanish...

Pd:

I don't think I'll be able to beat you... The Antichrist and the Black Pope Satanic of the Jesuits, colluding with certain elites to fill & destroy the EU with poor "non-white-pink" (in your own words, not mines, je...) immigrants... I don't know if I can overcome it... And even more with the wonderful and very explanatory photos with which you illustrate your arguments...:

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This is a long-read, and I hope that it keeps your attention because I feel that it is very important for all of us to know and realize what could be going on in Europe right now, and why. Who is behind it, and what are their aims.

https://sovereignwales.com/2016/09/...the-indigenous-nations-and-peoples-of-europe/

The genocidal Kalergi plan to destroy the indigenous nations and peoples of Europe
by cymrusofren

The hot potato of immigration – a perfectly reasonable debate for citizens of any country to have but one that many from all political persuasions are often unable to have without resorting to hysteria and polarisation.

Natural and sustainable immigration happens organically. Economic immigrants, whether legal or not, can’t be blamed or demonised for looking for a better quality of life. And genuine asylum seekers who escape war zones and civil wars created by any aggressor including western/Nato countries should expect our sympathy and help and be given refuge in the nearest safe country or countries as set out in international law.

But it isn’t that simple. Sadly there are political leaders and planners who seek to create and use mass immigration and the forced movement of people for their own nefarious purposes. Not many people have heard of the The Kalergi Pan European plan for Europe. In the 1920s, Free Mason Count Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi wrote a book titled “Praktischer Idealismus,” (Practical Idealism) which set out his views on how he believed the abolition of the right of self-determination and the elimination of European nations should be accomplished with the formation of an European Union.

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Who’s supposed to be the monarch again? Evelyn de Rothschild chats with Prince Charles

After publishing the book, Kalergi received help from Baron Louis de Rothschild who put him in touch with one of his friends, banker Max Warburg. Warburg then supported Kalergi with considerable funds to help form his European movement. The main problem lays with the fact that what Kalergi called for was not only the destruction of European nation states but also the deliberate ethnocide of the indigenous, mostly Caucasian race of the European continent. This he proposed should be done through enforced mass migration to create an undifferentiated homogeneous mass of serfs to be dominated by a wealthy self electing elite.

Kalergi in his own words:

“The (European) man of the future will be of mixed race. Today’s races and classes will disappear owing to the disappearing of space (nations), time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its outward appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals”

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This, Kalergi stated, should be a plan run for and by the racial and spiritual supremacy of ‘blood aristocracy and Jewry’. These are all his crude racialist words, not mine. People should be free to mix and settle with a partner from whatever race or ethnicity they choose. But what Kalergi and the Pan European plan specifically calls out for is the deliberate use of enforced and disproportionate mass immigration, especially from non-European countries, in order to bring in a Pan European single state dictatorship and destroy the indigenous pink/white nationalities, and therefore resistance, of Europe.

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In order to get a better picture of where this kind of twisted thinking comes from, those interested might want to look in more detail at Kabbalaism and at Babylonian mystery religion. These occult paganistic, Luciferian, anti Christian doctrines can be seen manifested in the highest degrees of Free Masonry and other secret societies, in the Kabbalah Zohar literature, in the subversive Sabbatean/Frankist movements and in the highly unpleasant supremacist teachings of the Babylonian Talmud bible – a doctrine that refers to non Talmudists as the sub-human Goyim/Gentiles (cattle) and which is followed and taught within Rabbinical and ultra orthodox Talmudism and within religious and political Zionism.

Babylonian occultism has also creeped in to most other organised religions at the higher levels including Roman Catholicism, Islam, Protestant Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism and the New Age Movement. It is also to be found as a guiding principle in the upper echelons of the unelected United Nations.

Alongside globalist corporations and philanthropists, these followers of occult Kabbalaism and extreme Talmudic and Zionist teachings seem to be especially preoccupied with deliberately destroying the indigenous nations and Caucasian race of Europe through mass enforced and unfettered multiculturalism. They also seem preoccupied in destroying the traditional Christian heritage and moral values that have largely helped to build and maintain a flourishing and diverse, culturally rich European civilisation.

The illegal attacks led by a small crazed Anglo-American-Israeli elite seen in recent years on majority Muslim countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya has also conveniently led to the radicalisation of many of the men and women of those countries. A large proportion of whom are now intent on revenge through the bloody destruction of the west by war or invasion. It could be easily surmised that this has played beautifully in to the hands of those European and Zionist elements who themselves want to see Europe destroyed as the Kalergi plan lays out. In other words, the radical Muslims have been played as much as we Europeans have. Divide and conquer, play both sides and all that. Perhaps it would be an idea for all divided enemies to start talking to each other and to look at who all the vested interests pulling all these strings might be and ask why are they doing it?

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The majority of the people of Israel and elsewhere who are moderate non Talmudic followers of old testament (Torah) Judaism, Arab Christians, Atheists, Agnostics, and moderate Muslims are also as much victims of such dangerous elite supremacist doctrine as we in Europe seem to be. And many if not most orthodox Jews don’t even realise that what they’re following or affiliating themselves with is extreme Talmudic Judaism, with increasing numbers now becoming aware of the extremities of Talmudic teachings.

Zionism is essentially Rothschild Zionism. The Rothschild family is a globalist banking family who have been and are currently in charge of most of the wealth and central banks of the world, and a great deal of its media. They are also bankers to the equally rich and powerful Roman Catholic Church and its Jesuit order in the Vatican – another institution heavily infiltrated by occult Kabbalism and one also very keen on a globalist new world order of one government, one cashless currency and one religion.

....Although after some joints of Congolese grass, I already see myself able to try...: "Let's see, this was the first 3 European superpowers (Andorra, San Marino, and Liechtenstein) that meet to share out the world, and the representative of Andora says: "..."...
...I'm going to finish this pipe with the rest of my "brown friends", and between all of us I'm sure we'll continue the story...

...my brown pride dude

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5-3Be_sTU9Y

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[Gypsy Nirvana]

- yes - it does seem all rather far fetched - but interesting all the same - trying to find reasons for what we see happening around us - and has encouraged me to dig deeper - research/study more - putting various ideas out there - from different sources - for us to look at -

- what to believe or not - is really up to you -

* The UK's very own war criminal - Tony Blair -