Nomaad's Outdoor Adventure 2009 v1.2

[nomaad]

Thanks for the input, guys. And the sympathy. I had the Sherpa out there for about an hour scouring the plants and I will go out and have my own look in a bit. As of now, the mold that I found is THE ONLY SPOT OF VISIBLE MOLD IN THE ENTIRE GARDEN.

Can't tell you how much I love having only 18 plants flowering right now instead of 99 (or more) like some of my mates.

Oregonic: the bright side you mention has already occurred to me. Much of what I have in the box is also in the full summer, so for the purpose of knowing what to expect, its awesome.

I knew this was going to be a challenge with the lack of air exchange at night in there. If I had some $$ to throw at it, I have a plan that i would fix that, but i am so close to the end, i dunno if it would make a difference.

Next year I will be using the breathable light dep material that is now available from Forever Flowering.

Any suggestions on how to keep this from spreading?

Also, how fast do you think I can flush the plants that have the mold? The GDP is pretty much ready to come down... there are very few new calyxes forming and the ones that are only have 2 or 3 hairs. I'd love to take her down ASAP... Any advice on how to get her flushed super rapido?

 

[nomaad]

The gdp sux for mold resistance i just had the same problem with some grape apes. pretty much anything that grows dense buds is sketchy in a light dep not much you can do besides cut off the infected stuff mabye add another fan.

In your experience does GDP look like grape ape in terms of structure?

I have a 100% true Kyle Kushman cut of Grape Ape, so I know what it is... my GDP looks NOTHING like it in terms of leaf shape, color, plants structure... my GDP had a pink stripe down the stem of each leaf when it was cold... not remnants since the temps have been consistently high. But the one I have in the full summer garden has a similar structure and growth pattern to OG Kush and AfPak.

I'm just interested to know if I am dealing with the real GDP because that speaks to when she should finish in a normal scenario. If it ain't really GDP, I can't use the info I have for GDP to estimate the finsih time on her.

Everybody: thanks for your help, advice and support. I feel great that I caught this so early... hope that just like with cancer in a human, early detection raises remission rates.

Any products I can use here? I used Subculture B for rust... to close to flower for even biologicals?

 

[Oregonic]

is there a way to isolate the gdp's? throw some bamboo stakes up and just put a shitty tarp over it or something? if they're close to being ready than just start puttin a lot of water thru em for the next few days... put a fan in there at night for fresh air so its not crazy humid though, at this point a light leak isn't gonna do much when you're about to chop in a few days... it'd be best to get them away from the others ASAP though if it looks like none of them have any mold, then you can just keep your eye on the others and make sure it doesn't show up any more in your big box.

 

[nomaad]

yeah... i can do that. One GDP is in a 10 gallon pot and the other is right at the end of one of the hoop houses and not burried.

This is good... if the soil is flushed well in the next few days the plants will suck up all the fresh water... the New Moon is on the 5th... so that's optimal. Think that the 6th is too early to harvest?

 

[yortbogey]

ok U got mold.....looks like GREY mold...some of the worst kind.....U need more air flow and circulation in that black box.
this will help w/ the stale air......also.........water less.....

as far as the GDP......if she is flushable...........
U could pull the plant roots and all submerge in highly oxygenated water and bubble the rootz clean......will flush thru-out in 24 hrs.......
do this in darkness w/out littes to push them over the edge and make 'em use up and stored energy into last minute juice production......
BUTR keep the air flow going 24/7.........the more the better seriously.....


now the moldy bud.......
U can microwave it dry at that will kill the mold spores....and make it salvagable....not great but better than zero.......

 

[nomaad]

What would happen to them if I just took them out of the black box and let them spend their last few days in the open air, wrong light cycle?

 

[Oregonic]

Think that the 6th is too early to harvest?

no

 

[nomaad]

ok U got mold.....looks like GREY mold...some of the worst kind.....U need more air flow and circulation in that black box.
this will help w/ the stale air......also.........water less.....

as far as the GDP......if she is flushable...........
U could pull the plant roots and all submerge in highly oxygenated water and bubble the rootz clean......will flush thru-out in 24 hrs.......
do this in darkness w/out littes to push them over the edge and make 'em use up and stored energy into last minute juice production......
BUTR keep the air flow going 24/7.........the more the better seriously.....


now the moldy bud.......
U can microwave it dry at that will kill the mold spores....and make it salvagable....not great but better than zero.......

nice one. why do you say "if she is flushable?"

So I'd bust her out of the pot... wash the dirt off the roots and submerge in a pool of highly oxygenated water... means I have to buy an air pump and airstones... i could probably swing that.

I water minimally anyway... only when they first show signs of needing it.

I moved two of the POS box fans into the garage cuz we've been trimming a friend's harvest in there... I guess the hippies will have to sweat it out. I'll get the 4 fans back in place... I dunno if I need it in the day time as we have a really nice breeze here. I guess if it can't hurt, I might as well do it.

The bud in the photo is the only moldy bud we can find. It is meaningless and i don't own a microwave. i'll give it up as an offering to the ganja gods to get me past this little speedbump without any serious losses.

God... my black box next year is going to be so much better than this abortion.

Thanks a lot for the info-packed input.

 

[Oregonic]

What would happen to them if I just took them out of the black box and let them spend their last few days in the open air, wrong light cycle?

honestly i don't think it'd be that big of a deal if you're choppin by the 6th... now that i think about it you should probably avoid sealin them up anywhere anymore unless its somewhere with a dehumy runnin, and like the guy above said, keep as much air moving on those gdp's as possible

 

[nomaad]

honestly i don't think it'd be that big of a deal if you're choppin by the 6th... now that i think about it you should probably avoid sealin them up anywhere anymore unless its somewhere with a dehumy runnin, and like the guy above said, keep as much air moving on those gdp's as possible

right? i'm not going to LOSE yield... and its unlikely that they would explode between now and then anyway with all the stress of overwatering, moving, etc...

 

[Che]

Get some of this stuff and you'll never have to worry again

http://www.greencure.net/

 

[nomaad]

Yeah.. I've heard mention of this in swamp grow threads...

I'm reading about it, but I don't see where it says how close to harvest it can be used. That shit is ready to come down... I need to really trust anything that I am thinking of spraying on them.

 

[Oregonic]

nomaad if i could come over right now and burn a spliff with you and help you inspect your plants i would, but i'm a wee bit to the north, so instead i'm makin you the first person i've given rep too, cause thats all i got for ya right now besides good vibes bro

 

[yortbogey]

at this point NO more chems...it want help.........
just hydro flush the biatches and call it good......

to answer U'r previous question.......To run az a TESTER.......U need to have ## of finished grows......w/ proof...to back it UP.......
be in good standing here @ icmag......
support the website......
and apply in the seedbay forum for tester applications.....
also helpt to networx w/ who'z who....around here......and try and familiarize U'r self w/ certain breederz U'r waintin to become associatted w/.....It easyier to get in w/ a newer bbreeder.......the bigboys all got bro's and whorez all aroound the,m........often more is not needed.....
and sumtimes the breeders will start a thread askin for peepz.....

just start look'in around for it ......itz out there.......keep lookin

 

[nomaad]

gdp and grape are pretty similar for a while people were saying they were the same thing lol think the gdp is a little stretchier outdoors but its the same style of nugget as ga and is usually one of the first to have problems with bot the bubba is another one to watch out for. Did you check the inside of the nugs on the middle of the bigger colas ? usually that is where its the worst . first light dep i ever did lost every single top cola to that stuff cause i didn't inspect the buds enough . Good job getting on top of it.

Hm... i am thinking that this isn't GDP. I know my Ape is real Ape and my GDP looks nothing like it. It comes from a batch of clones where NOTHING was what it was labeled as... I am still sorting out what is what. The GDP may be Pinky Maui which would make sense because she is an early finisher and prone to mold in the black box. Anybody know if Pinky Maui has a pink stripe down the stem on each leaf?

I am going to go down and look deeper at everything... the Bubbah especially. i will fucking cry if this is more widesread than I think it is now.

 

[nomaad]

lol good ole mislabeled clones gotta love em usually 45days is plenty for the faster strains and 55days for the slower stuff like sour d personally i start harvesting the tops at the first sign of bot cause it usually just gets worst and its not pm so spraying with greencure or something else wont help at all .

doc leafs post in this thread sums up bud rot pretty good .
http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=131344

My schedule (always subject to change by real-world conditions) says that the Bubbah, the Flistery (aka Blue Mystery), and the GDP (when I was assuming that it was GDP) want to come down at around 55. The Sour D, on the other hand, goes longer. I have it penciled in for 65 days along with the PLP (pepe le pew... mystery "skunk" that I named) maybe going a bit longer, even. Other than the PLP, I am going on the flowering times listed in different strain guides.

My method, just taught to me by Weed Santa, is to look at the new calixes forming and when they start to form with only 2 hairs, you're getting very close. Beyond that its a matter of intution. Again...wishing I had more experience. How many times a day do I say that?!

 

[nomaad]

nomaad if i could come over right now and burn a spliff with you and help you inspect your plants i would, but i'm a wee bit to the north, so instead i'm makin you the first person i've given rep too, cause thats all i got for ya right now besides good vibes bro

i'm also your first ICMag friend! should we, like, get matching tattoos?

I appreciate your input, bro. Gracias.

 

[nomaad]

Doesn't look like there is any more mold besides that small bud that I removed. I even gently separated some of the buds at the center of bigger colas and saw nothing that scared me.

I feel good that I'm in front of it for the moment. Thanks for all your help, guys.

 

[still2big]

In your experience does GDP look like grape ape in terms of structure?

I have a 100% true Kyle Kushman cut of Grape Ape, so I know what it is... my GDP looks NOTHING like it in terms of leaf shape, color, plants structure...

Thats a nice score right there man. Id love to get a hold of that....

 

[Oregonic]

i'm also your first ICMag friend! should we, like, get matching tattoos?

I appreciate your input, bro. Gracias.

you're 100% kosher, and i believe tattoos are not kosher? lol