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No more burner phones?

I had a friend working for one of the major cell networks and he would hook me up with phones registered to Disney characters for a few $.

Sounds like you could make a good little business of this yourself, for the time being:

You pay your friend to set up anonymous burner phones, then sell them for a profit.
 
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I go into 711 and give them cash and they give me a phone and receipt for my minutes.

If you have a unlocked iphone etc. you can just take the SIM cards out of the shitty burner phones and put them in your smart phone. You can even pay an extra $10 a month to have internet package. If they ever started registering burners here I would most certainly buy a shit load of them and piece them off.
 

]A[Boss

Member
uhhhh...... read the 1st post of this thread greenmango.

of course you can still go to 7-11 and get a phone unregistered
 
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Guest 150314

Ya I am not stupid read my post, up in Canada there is a monopoly on cellphones and all of the big companies already require proof of ID to register a pay as you go phone.. Rogers,Fido,Bell,Telus... The only pay as you go phones that I know of that don't require ID are the 711 speak out phones and the petro canada phones which are actually the same company. I was just giving a suggestion.. don't you have anything better to do?
 

Chester

Member
It doesn't matter if you sell the phone as far as LEOs are concerned. If I buy a phone, use 10 mins and then give it to Joe and he commits a crime using the phone. The cops will come after me and I will say "I gave it to Joe" and they'll go after him. If he gave it to someone, he'll direct them to that person. This trail that cops can follow is what the bill is intended to achieve.

It will be so that you need to register with your SSN, much like prepaid credit cards, so fake IDs and etc won't be much help.

Any decent criminal knows to use encrypted lines anyway. If OTR comes to AIM for phones, this bill will become obsolete before it ever gets passed.


Joe better damned well know that he "found" the phone. And you "Lost" it. Trail should die at each end.


:cool:
 

ItsGrowTime

gets some
Veteran
And the noose around the necks of the American people tightens just a little bit more. Even if it doesn't pass, it shows you what certain people within the government are working toward. Total police state control. One crisis, whether real, imagined, or orchestrated, will be enough to get a bill like this passed. Isn't it based on the NYC fake bomber thing already?

Call me a tinfoil hat wearer if you want but this stuff isn't about hurting growers, other drug dealers, or even muslim terrorists. It's about removing another piece of anonymity that people can hide behind if the federal government decides you're starting to get a little too "froggy" about the agenda they're following. Things like anon mobile phones would be a big catalyst for a popular uprising. They can't have that...these phones will be shut down eventually.

"Yesterday's tin foil is today's headline"
 

]A[Boss

Member
Ya I am not stupid read my post, up in Canada there is a monopoly on cellphones and all of the big companies already require proof of ID to register a pay as you go phone.. Rogers,Fido,Bell,Telus... The only pay as you go phones that I know of that don't require ID are the 711 speak out phones and the petro canada phones which are actually the same company. I was just giving a suggestion.. don't you have anything better to do?

THIS NOT ABOUT CANADA .... BUT COOL THANKS FOR THE SUGGESTION QUITE INTERESTING
 

wsmith

Member
if you want free, secure communication... GPG... http://www.gnupg.org
vetted free software with no government traps.
i don't work for them, i just personally vouch.
and as for email
hushmail is basically talking directly to a cop.
lavabit. pay for it and get the encrypted passthrough. and then still use gpg anyway. and then unless you piss off the NSA you're not getting monitored. period.
and use onion routing to visit this site, in addition to https. via TOR. http://www.torproject.org
you can use TOR and onion routing to route many popular instant message services, in conjunction with anonymous email to register, and then you're just some jerk in venezuela buying fifty pounds of lettuce from some jerk in montana. or nevada. or wherever.
and everyone you know will think you're a paranoid security junkie, but if you follow the rest of the rules, when they rat your ass out (because they were not so careful), they won't be able to prove a damned thing. :D
i love crypto!
if you want some real telco anonymity you should look at bulk voice over IP and DID numbers purchased (or freely obtainable) from domestic and foreign carriers. it's pretty cheap to become a mini carrier, and pretty untraceable if you do it right. and thanks to open source developers pretty easy as well. and that limitation of VOIP (E911 can't locate the source of a call or properly route it) is your friend here in spades.
but in both cases
it's easier to throw out a lot of phones
and even easier not to say dumb shit on them period.
fuck phones.
unless you buy that prepay at a different store everytime that same clerk still sold it to YOU. and god forbid you pay with a credit card. don't ever say your name on it, much less an address, or even a nickname or alias, the only thing the id requirement does is let them ID you a little faster for doing something you shouldn't do in the first place. what ever happened to phone etiquette?!!
:D
one final point. your personal level of security is only really set at that of the other party. you on your super secret encrypted line, are still potentially talking to a contract Sprint customer. and have on every one of your super secret numbers since you've made their acquaintance. i'm no lawyer, but that certainly raises a legal flag to me, and if someone is monitoring you at that intense of a level (narcs can set up on you for extended periods usually as customers or coconspirators or even room mates), it could be an effective argument to identify you and your fifty phone numbers as one individual, which undermines all of your efforts at security anyway. burners were always a joke. this will honestly probably prevent more people from making stupid assumptions about that fact.
 
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