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mr.brunch

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from the independent

Homer’s equation, in an episode in 1998, comes close to the truth, as revealed 14 years later
How Homer Simpson discovered the Higgs boson over a decade before scientists

The author of 'The Simpsons and their Mathematical Secrets', says the programme is: 'the most mathematical show on prime-time television in history'

By NICK CLARK
Sunday 01 March 2015
Homer Simpson almost predicted the mass of the elementary particle, the Higgs boson, more than a decade before it was discovered, according to a new book on maths in The Simpsons.
In the episode “The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace”, aired in 1998, Homer becomes an inventor and is shown in front of a blackboard with a complicated equation.
“That equation predicts the mass of the Higgs boson” Simon Singh said. “If you work it out, you get the mass of a Higgs boson that’s only a bit larger than the nano-mass of a Higgs boson actually is. It’s kind of amazing as Homer makes this prediction 14 years before it was discovered.”

Author of The Simpsons and their Mathematical Secrets, said: “The Simpsons is the most mathematical TV show on prime-time television in history,” adding: “A lot of the writers on The Simpsons are mathematicians.” He said the first full episode of The Simpsons had a joke about calculus, adding there was a “tonne of maths” in the show which references concepts including Fermat’s last theorem, perfect numbers, mersenne primes.
The Simpsons may “encourage and nourish” those who are into maths, Dr Singh said.

 
 

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here are some quotes from this so called Bible that to me and any person would realize how fucked up it really is

Leviticus 20:9

If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.
Exodus 35:2

For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.
On Destroying Other People

Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
On the Evil of Biblical Law

Ezekiel 20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.
On Slavery & Subjugation of Women

Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.
2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
Leviticus 25:44-45

Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
 

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here are some quotes from this so called Bible that to me and any person would realize how fucked up it really is

Leviticus 20:9

If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.
Exodus 35:2

For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.
On Destroying Other People

Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
On the Evil of Biblical Law

Ezekiel 20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.
On Slavery & Subjugation of Women

Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.
2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
Leviticus 25:44-45

Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.

yeah, they still follow a lot of those rules in Muslim countries...:tiphat:
 

Mad Lab

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And pedophiles came to be through Christianity so whats your point i forgot you have no point :tiphat:

actually your buddy Darwin brought that into the light much sooner than the catholic church by almost 100 years. by the way, im not catholic so your insults arnt even being directed at me buddy, who you talking to?
 

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And pedophiles came to be through Christianity so whats your point i forgot you have no point :tiphat:

you obviously have "pedophiles" mixed up with "Catholic priests". sick fuckers were screwing children since before we came down out of the trees...assuming you believe we came down out of the trees instead of springing directly from Gods design in his image.:) it has been a custom since before Christianity was a religion for well-off Muslim men to keep a "pretty boy" around, one that continues to this day in the middle east...
 

Mad Lab

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here are some quotes from this so called Bible that to me and any person would realize how fucked up it really is

Leviticus 20:9

If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.
Exodus 35:2

For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.
On Destroying Other People

Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
On the Evil of Biblical Law

Ezekiel 20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.
On Slavery & Subjugation of Women

Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.
2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
Leviticus 25:44-45

Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.


Of course you use Old Testiment quotes.

So if you showed these to Jews, youd have an argument.

But non of these 'rules' are for Protestant Christians.

The OT was written over 6000 years ago. These were different times, and for anyone to say that it can be compared to the modern era are fools.

This was mans beginning, closer to primitive nature, which results in much more death and rape over feelings such as jealousy, envy etc. God didnt have a Christian foundation (like the US) to work with, over 6000 years ago was likely a very brutal time in history which requires didnt lessons and punishment.

The biggest single set of crimes are sexual in nature, usually punishable by the death penalty, followed by a whole set of religious prohibitions. Sexual transgressions typically relate to a failure to comport oneself (sexually) in a manner that the Israelites approved of. Adultery was regarded as worse than than modern crimes such as molestation or rape - arguably because they challenged such moral issues as "Who of my children is really mine, so gets my land", and "The more sons I have the more land I can work, so the more money I own." Taken by the word of God alone, however, one just has to assume that God cares if you touch yourself or find someone sexy before you are married.

Also, in those times, death penalties were a common form of punishment. They didnt have prison systems with vast resources to house men. God couldnt say,"hey penalty for this and that, prison." oh wait we cant afford to house this man in our little town with no jail. times were different. you have to look at the times, not just, "well in my day in age (because of jesus christs philopsophy catching like wildfire) we dont use that form of punishment so it must have been wrong then too.

Slavery was not the slavery you think of. It was a choice made by the person to become a slave. When you couldnt pay your finances that you were in debt of because of your own actions, you could choose to pay it off through servitude. Likely, the other option was death (human law). So you sign a contract saying you are a slave to certain person. That person has rights. We didnt have the systems in place to govern these contracts, besides just killing people who didnt comply, so these slave-owners had rights to punish slaves who did not comply with the contracts they agree'd to, makes sense to me. if it doesnt make sense to you, your more like jesus then the rest of us.


Also, if you read some of the NT verses you would also understand that there was the old law and the new law. the old law is to prove to man after giving him a chance that he can not keep universal laws between men on his own. the new law says believe in jesus and the rest will come.

so you dont have these 'rules' as a christian. when u become one, you have a choice as we all do to choose to live by some of them, but thats as far as that goes.

but good argument against the jewish people, maybe?


also, its one thing to copy and paste an article. but you googled "list of bad bible verses" and copied some other atheists opinion page, didnt even look the verses up yourself and check out the context. your like a wittle baby trying to use other poeple's opinion to validate your stance.
 

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1. If God is supposed to protect us from evil and is supposedly omnipotent (everywhere at any given time) and omnibenevolent (the ultimate in good), why doesn't he save us from the present evil already?!
2. If God already knows the future and created us in his image, then humanity is destined to know everything He knows and we will not have the true free will we have. An example is this very post. I don't know if I will get lots of hate from religious nuts or not so I'm posting this to see the reaction. If I knew what the reaction would be, like "God", I wouldn't be writing this.
3. If God is omnipotent and not everyone believes in Him, He would do a better job gathering believers.
4. Why would a supernatural being create a universe? Because He was bored to death? He can't desire it because the concept of desire is subjectively human.
5. Ma and Pa told me that God meant to make us imperfect. Why the hell would God make us imperfect if He, according to the Bible, expects so much from us as individuals. They never gave me a straightforward answer, or even a relevant one.
6. Religion is very inconsistent about the idea of God and what He wants from us (if God can even feel desire). So that also proves, not only the non-existence of God, but the inaccuracy and incorrectness of many, if not all, religions.
 

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1. If God is supposed to protect us from evil and is supposedly omnipotent (everywhere at any given time) and omnibenevolent (the ultimate in good), why doesn't he save us from the present evil already?!
2. If God already knows the future and created us in his image, then humanity is destined to know everything He knows and we will not have the true free will we have. An example is this very post. I don't know if I will get lots of hate from religious nuts or not so I'm posting this to see the reaction. If I knew what the reaction would be, like "God", I wouldn't be writing this.
3. If God is omnipotent and not everyone believes in Him, He would do a better job gathering believers.
4. Why would a supernatural being create a universe? Because He was bored to death? He can't desire it because the concept of desire is subjectively human.
5. Ma and Pa told me that God meant to make us imperfect. Why the hell would God make us imperfect if He, according to the Bible, expects so much from us as individuals. They never gave me a straightforward answer, or even a relevant one.
6. Religion is very inconsistent about the idea of God and what He wants from us (if God can even feel desire). So that also proves, not only the non-existence of God, but the inaccuracy and incorrectness of many, if not all, religions.

he doesn't expect shit from us. he gave us free will, it's up to US. that is what "free will" means...:)
 

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Christianity says that you should love every body and treat them
fairly...hmmm lets see weren't the nazis Christian? Also the crusaders who
raped, killed, and looted from tones of people did it all in the name of
"god." Slave drivers that were devoted Christians treated their slaves like
nothing. what a way to follow your religion
then the whole Adam and eve thing. the bible states that god created Adam and
eve first, but fossil records clearly show that things where on the earth be
for humans. idiots
the virgin birth. right...just think about it and you will realize how
stupid that is. how can a virgin give birth?? that just goes against all
science except the type of lizard that can clone itself. if you still believe
in the virgin birth are you implying that Mary was a lizard?

Noah's arc 2 of every animal ehhh lets see...a boat that can hold 2
elephants, rhinos, giraffes, hippos, kimono dragons, apes, wolves, and etc.
is just impossible. it would take a genius to design a boat able to do
that and Noah wasn't a genius.
 

Mad Lab

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1. If God is supposed to protect us from evil and is supposedly omnipotent (everywhere at any given time) and omnibenevolent (the ultimate in good), why doesn't he save us from the present evil already?!

He's not.

How many times do WE have to tell you, you cannot have good without the opposition. you need evil to even have good exist. that is freewill. if those opposing forces didnt exist we would be robots, or what we were likely before: primitive animals that dont have a choice, they just do what they do day to day.

2. If God already knows the future and created us in his image, then humanity is destined to know everything He knows and we will not have the true free will we have. An example is this very post. I don't know if I will get lots of hate from religious nuts or not so I'm posting this to see the reaction. If I knew what the reaction would be, like "God", I wouldn't be writing this.

destined to know all he knows? who ever said that?

likely ominpotency, although we cant observe any such laws if they existed, would be past present and future. likely, God knew what we'd do if the laws were set in place. so he saw the future, he knows what we will do and how we will do it, but he doesnt force our hands.
3. If God is omnipotent and not everyone believes in Him, He would do a better job gathering believers.

Sure, God could open the skys and say "hey look everyone, im up here, this is God, worship me". and everyone would know. youd like that wouldnt you? doesnt logically make much sense to me knowing the deity we speak of. first of all, God said he would only reach man, through men. second, that would take away our freewill to "believe" in god. at that point you could reject him, but youd still know he existed because he opened the skies and said so.

also that would defy the laws set in place by god. i dont think god likes reaching man unless he can do so with matter and physics. breaking the rules doesnt seem to happen much. we can come up with good ideas for how science could varify almost all "miracles" in the bible. science can explain how god could do such things at those times.
4. Why would a supernatural being create a universe? Because He was bored to death? He can't desire it because the concept of desire is subjectively human.

Why do we create? exactly.

5. Ma and Pa told me that God meant to make us imperfect. Why the hell would God make us imperfect if He, according to the Bible, expects so much from us as individuals. They never gave me a straightforward answer, or even a relevant one.

because we choose to be selfish. we dont have to, we choose to.
6. Religion is very inconsistent about the idea of God and what He wants from us (if God can even feel desire). So that also proves, not only the non-existence of God, but the inaccuracy and incorrectness of many, if not all, religions.

your speaking as if ether all religions are true or all religions are false. thats foolish. look up the definition of truth, it is exclusive.
 

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again bout the Noah story. god loves you right? well then how come he
drowned everything on the planet except 2 of each animal?
Ahhh Noah. A few questions for you too then - where did he get the polar
bears, penguins, etc from? Noah sends a dove out to see if there was any dry
land. But the dove returns without finding any. Then, just seven days later,
the dove goes out again and returns with an olive leaf. But how could an
olive tree survive the flood? And if any seeds happened to survive, they
certainly wouldn't germinate and grow leaves within a seven day period. When
the animals left the ark, what would they have eaten? There would have been
no plants after the ground had been submerged for nearly a year. What would
the carnivores have eaten? Whatever prey they ate would have gone extinct.
And how did the New World primates or the Australian marsupials find there
way back after the flood subsided? Noah kills the "clean beasts" and burns
their dead bodies for God. According to the bible, this would have caused
the extinction of all "clean" animals since only two of each were taken onto
the ark.
"Love your enemies."
Well, it's a nice thought. But it seems strange coming from someone who
damns his enemies to hell.
 

Mad Lab

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Christianity says that you should love every body and treat them
fairly...hmmm lets see weren't the nazis Christian? Also the crusaders who
raped, killed, and looted from tones of people did it all in the name of
"god." Slave drivers that were devoted Christians treated their slaves like
nothing. what a way to follow your religion
then the whole Adam and eve thing. the bible states that god created Adam and
eve first, but fossil records clearly show that things where on the earth be
for humans. idiots
the virgin birth. right...just think about it and you will realize how
stupid that is. how can a virgin give birth?? that just goes against all
science except the type of lizard that can clone itself. if you still believe
in the virgin birth are you implying that Mary was a lizard?

Noah's arc 2 of every animal ehhh lets see...a boat that can hold 2
elephants, rhinos, giraffes, hippos, kimono dragons, apes, wolves, and etc.
is just impossible. it would take a genius to design a boat able to do
that and Noah wasn't a genius.


your all mixed up on everything buddy.

1. some nazis might have claimed to be christian, and yes, try to love them. you might have to kill them, but understanding that their lives were broken to the point that they reached the point they are at now and having sympathy if you were more blessed with the life given to you.

2. judging a philosophy by its abuses again, i feel like im back in highschool.

3. it did not say adam and eve were created first. read genesis, your just posting garbage now. likely, Adam"atom", was the first evolved primate to the point of freewill and self-awareness. He passed this on to his children and they passed it on to the communities of primitive primates that were in the area. its called evolution, remember? you will find that after Cane killed Able, that he was exiled, and traveled to another area with primates, were he would have found his wife:

So the LORD said to him, "Therefore whoever kills Cain, vengeance will be taken on him sevenfold." And the LORD appointed a sign for Cain, so that no one finding him would slay him. Then Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.

4. The virgin birth, ah yes, one of the three biblical miracles we cant explain. i dont have a rebuttal on that one, like you havent had a rebuttal on most of my statements. that one is pure faith, although i dont care about it at all. doesnt mean anything to me.

5. Noah's ark was actually possible. improbable though.

*alot of scholars believe it had to do with another time in earths history that didnt include much mankind. the "giants" genesis spoke of that roamed the earth. alot of speculations on this one, alot of different compatible ideas. even annunaki compatibility. so wether mankind was too brutal or the "giants" or "angels" even, god supposedly thought it would be best to destroy them and start over.
 

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I know the answer all religious questions "Shut up and read something proven." If it said "Have sex with your dad" in the bible, would you do it? Nothing backs up the bible, besides all the elaborate churches and believers, christianity has no balls. God hasn't done shit since science and communication evolved to debunk all the tall tales people try to pass off as a miracles. The bible is toilet paper with words on it.
 

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One thing that bugs me is the fact that people say morality comes from god's laws. Well, if this is true, then how come 'Thou shalt not kill' comes in at number 4 is the 10 commandments? Surely that is the big number 1. The most evil thing anyone can do is take another persons life. And what's number 1? 'Thou shalt not deny thy holy spirit or holy father'. So, let me get this straight, in god's eyes, you can be forgiven for multiple muder, rape, child abuse, etc - but not for denying him? Damned for thinking. I'm beginning to think this god guy aint very nice. And what counts as 'denying'? Does a mere thought in one's head count? its all very vaigue.
Secondly, there is no evidence - NONE WHAT SO EVER - that any biblical story - or any other religious story for that matter is true. All you got is a book. Why is the book holy? Because it saids so in the book! Wonderful, anyone could have written it: a drunken guy in the gutter or a person who suffers from a mental illness ( no offence intended to any mental health suffers as my mother suffers it ).
If you havn't already read the book 'The God Delusion' by Sir Richard Dawking, then i suggest you do, a great read and exceptionally well written.
Another thing i HATE is that religious beliefs AUTOMATICALLY demand respect because any criticism causes 'harm'. Bollocks to it! Am i really meant to respect the views of poeple who commit mass muder by suicide bombing? All in the name of the 'good' and 'loving' lord? Who by the - saids that you should stone your children to death if they back chat you. Such practises and BARBARIC. Yeah, what a really nasty pieve ofwork this guy is. I mean, even Satan seems to have more morals: all he does is get people to eat an apple or two and God allows murder to take place.
And, its not enough that they believe it oh no, you have to aswell. 'Cos if you don't your going to 'hell'. Heres a good one:
Priest: " Do you believe? "
Non Believer (smart guy): "No!"
Priest: " Well, God's got a place for you - hell. You're gonna be tortured and put under the most pain imaginible. Oh, by the way - he really does love you very much."
I mean can religious people sorry, i mean DELUDED people not see the irony and hyprocisy in this? Often not, because they have been brainwashed by religion. Although, i must be clear, i don't believe that the suicide bombers THEMSELVES are evil, but the beliefs and people that corrupted them are evil. If suicide bombing is a one way ticket to heaven, and heaven is where you wanna be - then why dont the high authorities blow themselves up? Because they know it's bullshit. That would be the first question on my agenda: " why the fuck dont you do it if it pleases god?"
 

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An Arab family was considering putting their grandfather in a Nursing home. Since most of the facilities were completely full, they had to put him in a Jewish home.
After a few weeks in the Jewish facility, they came to visit grandpa.
"How do you like it here?" asks the grandson.
"It's wonderful! Everyone here is so courteous and respectful," says grandpa.
"We're so happy for you. We were worried that this was the wrong place for you. You know, since you are a little different from everyone."
"Oh, no! Let me tell you about how wonderfully they treat the residents here," grandpa says with a big smile.
"There's a musician here he's 85 years old. He hasn't played the violin in 20 years and everyone still calls him 'Maestro'!"
"There is a judge in here -- he's 95 years old. He hasn't been on the bench in 30 years and everyone still calls him 'Your Honour'!"
“And there's a physician here -- 90 years ! old. He hasn't been practising medicine for 25 years and everyone still calls him 'Doctor'!"
"And what about you Grandpa" - asks the grandson.
"And me...., I haven't had sex for 35 years and they still call me 'The fucking Arab!"
 

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it doesn't actually say "thou shalt not kill", the latest translation is "thou shalt not murder". if you are going to pick at something, you look (just a little) more intelligent if you are up on it instead of spewing the same crap over and over. no one can prove to you that God exists, and you can't prove he doesn't. God does not give a rats ass if you believe or not, nor do I. he is not going to make an appearance for you nor anyone else, no miracles on command, nothing. repetitive bellowing of "PROVE IT TO ME!" means nothing to me except that you are repetitive, and seem to like the "sound" of your own "voice" on here. like God, I don't give a shit what you think...:biggrin:
 

DrFever

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your right he has never made or never will make appearance either see how foolish you sound your the one that believes in god you should be the one that explains why you believe in god its in your hands to tell us why you believe in god was it Brain washing i think so
 
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