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Nl5 haze from the early to mid-90s

Rgd

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1989 hz x nl5 ..one pheno I still chase..
after that ..tried a few times..still good weed
too much wld not enough haze trip

and it was more trippy than any haze I have had yet
 

kro-magnon

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People here say that Dutch companies went down only for reason someone will maybe boughts their seeds.
I recently growed few strains of them they are all the same like they was.
Anybody who smoked white widow know its white widow,also with Jack....

Sell your seeds im ok with it...but dont talk to me your marketing stories im on another level compared to 99% people here. 👍
You can't be serious, You Saïd yourself You had white widow who took 12 weeks to flower. That's not the classic WW of the 90's, it has never been a 12 weeker, what You have grown is not the Real WW, and Sensi Seeds has nothing to do with the création of this legend.
I don't know who you're talking to but I don't selle seeds and check ego kido you're not ranking high enough to compete with growers with multiple decades of expérience unlike You
 

bigtacofarmer

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My friend grew sensi's maple leaf indica, Hawaiian indica, super skunk and afghan #1 around 1998. All were really good and he was a beginner grower. All produced weed I would enjoy to this day. Since then I have grown their skunk 1 and black domina and neither produced anything I would rate above a C-. And that is being generous. I also bought a pack of mothers finest that had 0 germinate. I would say I just had bad luck but the entire internet has had similar bad experiences. At this point I have enough seeds and access to clones that I wouldn't even pop a free sensi seed. No room for something I expect to fail.
 

bigtacofarmer

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As far as European seeds go. I enjoyed serious bubblegum. Kinda weak buzz but great taste. I'm sure something great could come out a bigger selection. And I have mixed experience with Mr nice and will probably eventually order from them again. We had a matanuska tundra clone a friend found in sagmartha seeds that was amazing. But they acknowledge they lost all their parents. Haven't tried anything from them since.
 

OGskunk420

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Thats a good question friend. Heres what I found, from two seed breeders.

Northern Lights 5 Haze from Finest Medicinal Seeds
Northern Lights 5 Haze from The Plant. Where would I get those

@OGskunk420 I know the vintage, mid-late 90's NL5 Haze. My personal favorite of all time. Back when Nevil was with Sensi Seeds. I would say it is close to impossible to find the quality of that particular vintage.

Your best bet is to find some Cuban Black Haze clones or crosses, that's the closest I've personally found that exists today that carriers some of the terpenes from that vintage but I feel it's missing that really long lasting trippy high with no ceiling like the NL5 Haze I had access to. Year was 1998-2001 I was getting it consistently.
Yeah the Cuban black was nothing like the Northern Lights Haze I had. The Northern Lights 5 haze I had was better than the NL special I smoked in Amsterdam
 

coxnox

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Im not saying Im super special with this 99%.
Its only mean that Im here just for growing and reviews. I dont have interest in breeding or making seeds at all.
While all others of you are part of some breeders crew or breed alone or in some kind of some agenda.
I dont care about this marketing at all.
I just grow seeds select keepers and thats all.

From Greenhouse seeds,Sensi even RQS...to rare dankness,karma,underground genetics,sannies shop,philosophers....I just grow and thats it.

Growed many seeds....seen many phenos....I know what Im talking about.

Even If Sensi lost their old stock like you say. Again you and they are searching through the same genepool which was come around mid 80's in Holland.
So what is difference between you and they ?
Just your ego.
Im not marketing and im in no way à part of à breeder or à breeder krew....i poped à lot of ssb seeds before and after 2k.....i know what i have seen....
 

CannaT

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You can't be serious, You Saïd yourself You had white widow who took 12 weeks to flower. That's not the classic WW of the 90's, it has never been a 12 weeker, what You have grown is not the Real WW, and Sensi Seeds has nothing to do with the création of this legend.
I don't know who you're talking to but I don't selle seeds and check ego kido you're not ranking high enough to compete with growers with multiple decades of expérience unlike You
Man please,what is real WW ?
By breeders description South Indian BLD x Brasilian NLD.

I had 3 phenos one that is 8-9 weeker.
2nd 70-77 days and last one mostly Sativa 84-93 days.
All phenos have close like terpens 2 most grups will divade in meaty/mangois acrid second group will be diesely koffey lemony.

All people that I think of knowledge guys say that is old school WW...and it is exactly what Dutch Passion say that are characteristics of those seeds. And that is most importent for me,when you get what breeder say u will get.

Its not WW ???
What you want say whit this phrase ?
That is not plant what you have been smoking as WW when someone said to you its WW.

And you didnt smoke my phenos.

You are funny man. And more you post,the bigger clown you are.
 
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CannaT

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Jack Herer resin level insane.🇱🇺💨❄️
 
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CannaT

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White Widow Indica pheno 8-9weeks
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White widow "mid" pheno 10-11 weeks It was different smelling than others 2.
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White Widow Sativa pheno 12-13 weeks.

WW indica and Sativa share smells of lemony diesely coffe...mid pheno is fruty meaty hashy diesely.

Indica pheno had some body but they are mostly sativa. Me and my friends dont like to smoke it at night. It dont make you sleepy and heavy.

I chose as my keeper Indica pheno...but It was hard decission between Indica and mid pheno...
 
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CannaT

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As far as European seeds go. I enjoyed serious bubblegum. Kinda weak buzz but great taste. I'm sure something great could come out a bigger selection. And I have mixed experience with Mr nice and will probably eventually order from them again. We had a matanuska tundra clone a friend found in sagmartha seeds that was amazing. But they acknowledge they lost all their parents. Haven't tried anything from them since.
In reality man EU strains are old school strains and was genetics that made new USA strains.
Best of best from Europe were mixed in various ways...to get something like OG,Chem and Sour.
My friend who is "ordinary" judge always say to me that those old schools what Im growing right now are "less quality" to new strains. But have some kind of personality in them.
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Some new school strain.
Wy-kiki (Pink Panties x Banana Candy Krush )
It taste like candy shop with bit of sour gas.
In few days will start little selection on 10 fem seeds of TH seeds Strawberry Glue ( Goji Glue x Strawberrybanana cream.)
 
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bigtacofarmer

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In reality man EU strains are old school strains and was genetics that made new USA strains.
Best of best from Europe were mixed in various ways...to get something like OG,Chem and Sour.
My friend who is "ordinary" judge always say to me that those old schools what Im growing right now are "less quality" to new strains. But have some kind of personality in them.
Lots of European strains became European after an American brought them there. Bubblegum, northern lights, haze, skunk, all of somas strains, thseeds, DNA genetics and so on. Prohibition made many growers and breeders move to Amsterdam or elsewhere.

I think if you researched each company individually you would be surprised how many strains actually originated in secret American gardens.
 

CannaT

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Lots of European strains became European after an American brought them there. Bubblegum, northern lights, haze, skunk, all of somas strains, thseeds, DNA genetics and so on. Prohibition made many growers and breeders move to Amsterdam or elsewhere.

I think if you researched each company individually you would be surprised how many strains actually originated in secret American gardens.
Yes I know that. But Im calling those strains "Dutch" strains just cuz were made famous in Netherlands.
Cant think about 🇱🇺 and not think on SSH,WhiteWidow and other classics.
 

willydread

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I think that beyond all this, it depends on personal tastes and preferences, I tried Nl5hz of sensi about twenty years ago, I have grown in the same period Nl5hz of nirvana and some other versions of minor seedbanks, and in the last few years I have grown again the nirvana version and the MNS one,and to be honest all were good, i personally prefer the nirvana version for several reasons but like i said its a matter of personal preference.
I forgot, there is also A5 around...
 

goingrey

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I think that beyond all this, it depends on personal tastes and preferences, I tried Nl5hz of sensi about twenty years ago, I have grown in the same period Nl5hz of nirvana and some other versions of minor seedbanks, and in the last few years I have grown again the nirvana version and the MNS one,and to be honest all were good, i personally prefer the nirvana version for several reasons but like i said its a matter of personal preference.
I forgot, there is also A5 around...
Not sure if just sold out temporarily or discontinued for good but Nirvana doesn't sell it right now at least.
 

CannaT

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SB fresh pollinated...

from Reserva Privada ... was a suggestion from SamS ...
bought it and crossed the most sativa girl with the OHz ...
and used the strongest boy to pollinate my fav OHz girl.. ;-)
Silver Bubble smokes amazing... just popped some again...
M.:smoker:
RP & DNA have great genetics.
 
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CannaT

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Anyone tried Dedoverde Haze from HSO or NL5 Haze Mist from GHS?
I had grown Dedoverde Haze but small sample 5 seeds. It reminds me of SLH/Amnesia type of haze.

I only smoked NL5haze Mist in GH coffeshop 1 pheno.
Its like oldschool haze meaty,spicy...all head high classic dutch hz.
 

kro-magnon

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@CannaT If you have to use insult about me I'll use the same curtesy to you, you're an ignorant wanker who believe the bullshit of the seedbanks who have not grown a single seed in decades. Since 98 none of the Dutch seedbanks are making their own seeds, they are buying their stock to seeds makers who work with anyone who pay them. What you have bought with the name White Widow is not the real cross from the 90's but you're too dumb to realize you have been lied to.
 

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