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How about you stop trying to stroke a broken ego? Why are you still responding to this thread?
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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Cripes thats light burn if I ever saw it and I have seen it plenty by using MH's in flower.

Blackvelvet couldnt call out a copper def if his crackho dependent life was on the line.

And no he hasnt grown a MJ plant in his life.. if he did he would know how rare a copper def is.
 

Nikijad4210

Member
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Oh for christ's sake, BV, put a sock in it already. You're of no help in this forum tossing out utter bullcrap like that. Go stroke your ego on PG, they'd welcome you with open arms.


That's light burn alright, looks like it got way too much light way too close & definately got heat burn on the leaves. Did the bulb ever make contact with the plant? It looks like it might have.

Don't worry about it dude, it's not rocket science, you don't need to go through the pains of BV's horsecrap formula---It's not deficient, just burned a little. It'll recover just fine, just don't keep your lights that close anymore.
 
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I told him to go to PG when he was posting under the handle sproutco. I think that place is perfect for him! Can anybody believe that this guy is posting stuff like this?
 

eugenegreen

herbalist
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Verite said:
Cripes thats light burn if I ever saw it and I have seen it plenty by using MH's in flower.

Blackvelvet couldnt call out a copper def if his crackho dependent life was on the line.

And no he hasnt grown a MJ plant in his life.. if he did he would know how rare a copper def is.

Hey bud, and a proper hello to ya... I was curious about your statement about using mh's for flower.. My first ever grow many years ago, I vegged and bloomed under a 400mh... The heat was horrible but manageable none the less... I went on to bloom hps later on (in subsequent grows) but I do remember that my mh herbs were quite fragrant (more so than hps, with same clones) but more airy in structure... The aroma really made it shine though... Curious as to if the spectrum of mh's affects the fragrancy of herbs??? "crackho dependent life", rotfl, nice:D
 

eugenegreen

herbalist
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Nikijad4210 said:
Oh for christ's sake, BV, put a sock in it already. You're of no help in this forum tossing out utter bullcrap like that. Go stroke your ego on PG, they'd welcome you with open arms.


That's light burn alright, looks like it got way too much light way too close & definately got heat burn on the leaves. Did the bulb ever make contact with the plant? It looks like it might have.

Don't worry about it dude, it's not rocket science, you don't need to go through the pains of BV's horsecrap formula---It's not deficient, just burned a little. It'll recover just fine, just don't keep your lights that close anymore.

I concur... Very good advice and I'd like to add that if the burnt tips are real bad you can always just top em...
 

Blackvelvet

Member
Blackvelvet said:
Just for fun :smile:, anybody that can explain why copper deficiency causes plant tops to wilt gets positive rep. (yes, i have the answer...)
Impairment of lignin synthesis resulting from the lack of two cu containing enzymes phenolase and laccase. Basically, there is inadequate development of the xylem that conducts water within the plant.
 

MTF-Sandman

OG Refugee
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but he already figured out it was from the plant growing into the light...

pablito said:
well actually they did get pretty close but i moved the light since. I thought about it because of the leaves being so brown in such a short time but I didn't know heat could actually make those light green patches. Now that I think of it the only plant that has the problem is the one right under the lamp which makes sense...

If ya'll wanna bicker, please don't clutter up peoples threads who need some help...it reminds me of the drunk wife beater getting into a screaming match with his "nappy headed ho" in the streets - just no class IMO. Sorry, had to take my opportunity to use that phrase :D
 

Blackvelvet

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Mtf Sandman, your right. Thanks from me and the patients for being so helpful in the infirmary. I'm sorry my copper def theory didn't go over so well. LOL :wave:
 

Pablito

New member
wow wasn't expecting so many ppl to get involved in this, my fault, i guess i wasn't clear:
- i was away for the week-end and some evil god cursed my grow by making the intake vent fall down (& cut a top of a plant like a razor blade which i only noticed later). this made the temps go up as there was no more fresh air moving around.

- despite the heat this arjans haze is a mighty stretcher (as a matter of fact i recommend everybody to watch out when trying SCROG with this one because if you start flowering them too late you'd have to face a fu*** jungle) and it grew a lot during those 3 days. The plant under the lamp probably ended up touching the lamp and burning (when i got back my gf had already moved the lamp away)...

anyway that's it for the story, im keeping a close watch on all the new shoots which seem to be going better...

thx again & have a nice weekend
 

Core

Quality Control Controller
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this proves it again.....You suck Spratco!

BAN HIM !!!
 
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MTF-Sandman said:
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but he already figured out it was from the plant growing into the light...



If ya'll wanna bicker, please don't clutter up peoples threads who need some help...it reminds me of the drunk wife beater getting into a screaming match with his "nappy headed ho" in the streets - just no class IMO. Sorry, had to take my opportunity to use that phrase :D


This statement is true. While I dont want to clutter threads with bullshit. One can not come in a thread and mislead a guy to thinking this is a COPPER def! or mag or K or whatever he feels like calling out at the moment. Am I and several others wrong for correcting this type of false info? I dont take this to pm cause I want members to see whats being said and not let this little ego maniac continue to get away with this shit! Can I also mention the neg rep he gives to other members and myself almost everyday? Between that and fowarding pms he got banned under his other handles so whats so different now? :fsu:
 
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Pablito

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peace peeps.

haze: i think mtf was just making a general comment on what the thread turned into, nothing directed to you personally.

thx again and let's all chill :)
 

Core

Quality Control Controller
ICMag Donor
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HazeToker said:
This statement is true. While I dont want to clutter threads with bullshit. One can not come in a thread and mislead a guy to thinking this is a COPPER def! or mag or K or whatever he feels like calling out at the moment. Am I and several others wrong for correcting this type of false info?


no man its not you or me thats cluttering this thread and your not wrong trying 2 correct it!!!....i'm no wizard in growing ....but i'm not posing...we or i care for this guys plant....and black velvet aka sproutco ...does't care what happens @ all to pablito's crop or some1 others crop for that matter....coz he is't growing anyway...:mad:

he proved that before and he's proving it again :2cents:
 

Blackvelvet

Member
Nothing to argue about...

Nothing to argue about...

Surprisingly, I think everyone is right on this one. The plants are low in copper but not showing trouble yet. Like I mentioned before, copper def usually occurs in summer. The warmth from the light enhanced the problem in the tops. So copper def/"light burn" occured. If light burn were just the problem, why are the tops wilted? Light burn usually creates bleaching where large patches turn white. Or even burn if your into that. But these plants are showing interveinal chlorosis like magnesium deficieny in the tops. And, leaf tips are still green in alot of the leaves affected. Why do the leaf tips go round and round like a pigs tail? Look at picture 3. And also as mentioned before, the plants may recover without help but I might expect these symptoms to reoccur sometime in the future. Move the affected plant farthest from the lamp and see what happens. Please give us an update sometime. Peace. Velvet :joint:
 
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Blackvelvet said:
Surprisingly, I think everyone is right on this one. The plants are low in copper but not showing trouble yet. Like I mentioned before, copper def usually occurs in summer. The warmth from the light enhanced the problem in the tops. So copper def/"light burn" occured. If light burn were just the problem, why are the tops wilted? Light burn usually creates bleaching where large patches turn white. Or even burn if your into that. But these plants are showing interveinal chlorosis like magnesium deficieny in the tops. And, leaf tips are still green in alot of the leaves affected. Why do the leaf tips go round and round like a pigs tail? Look at picture 3. And also as mentioned before, the plants may recover without help but I might expect these symptoms to reoccur sometime in the future. Move the affected plant farthest from the lamp and see what happens. Please give us an update sometime. Peace. Velvet :joint:


Cmon man! :pointlaug Its over for you once again. I will have fun picking out your next handle :moon:
 

Blackvelvet

Member
HazeToker said:
Cmon man! :pointlaug Its over for you once again. I will have fun picking out your next handle :moon:
Since your so plant wise haze toker, what would copper deficient plants look like or appear? Lmao. I would lovvvvvvvvve for you to respond to this one. :bigeye:
 
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No matter how hard you try to discredit me its not going to work bro! I am not the one pretending to know all about growing plants. I know what Iknow and that is what I spit out on this site. Not untested therioes and just out right bullshit. I am not a know it all type of guy such as your self. I grow ganja in real life not on a computer. Why would you continue to post here? shit, why would I? This pissing match will not end in your favor just like the last 3 you challenged me 2! Do you suffer from short term memory loss?
 
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BTW, I have never seen a copper def plant. I know how to grow and other than pics of it that is all the experience I have with that. Well, that and I know its so rare that after 1000+ plants grown and many different ferts used has never happened. See you fail to relize that almost all commerical ferts have more than enough of the macro/micro nutes that a plant needs. And most def's occur from the ph being out of whack. Now lets see you admit to the fact YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN GROWN A FUCKING TOMATO PLANT LET ALONE A GANJA PLANT. and no you have never seen a copper def plant other than internet pics so stop your bullshit before this goes to far once again!
 

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