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New Room Setup 2 600w Digi's

turbo14

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Hey guys, my new setup has just about all come in and im pondering some things now. Room is a 6x6 space and will be running (2) 600w Lumatek 120v Digital Ballasts, hortilux bulbs through daystar AC hoods. These lights will be cooled with a 6" 440cfm Canfan that will blow out of the room to reduce temps. I will be using two Turbo Flo 14 Plant Ebb and Flow systems side by side with about a foot apart between each of them( I like to grow wide and love me some lst). My main question here is will I need to upgrade my breaker box or wiring to accommodate the extra 600 and bigger fan that will be going into the room. So pretty much will 2 digi 600's and a 440cfm fan trip my breaker everyday? I don't want it to happen at all and would like to get it setup right before I start these ladies.

Thanks in advanced
Turbo :joint:
 

guineapig

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you're cutting it a bit close for a 15 amp circuit, but you might get lucky and have a 20 amp circuit.....check your breaker box and find the circuit for the room and see if a number is printed on it.....

good electrical safety!!!
 

turbo14

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So I should be ok if I have a 20 amp? If not what would be more practical. Thank guinea. Respect to the dirty:) And Always Safety FIRST!

turbo
 
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Depending on how old your wiring is, make sure you know everything on that breaker. I had a house that had receptacles and lights all over the damn house on one circuit! Add up everything you are going to run on that circuit (amps), your breaker should be right around that, more if you will actually run everything at once. Check your library for some great books on electrical stuff. I luck out that my brother is an electrician, and likes the herb as much as me! :joint:

Best of luck, looks great so far..

later, flip
 

turbo14

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FlipMode said:
Depending on how old your wiring is, make sure you know everything on that breaker. I had a house that had receptacles and lights all over the damn house on one circuit! Add up everything you are going to run on that circuit (amps), your breaker should be right around that, more if you will actually run everything at once. Check your library for some great books on electrical stuff. I luck out that my brother is an electrician, and likes the herb as much as me! :joint:

Best of luck, looks great so far..

later, flip


Thanks for the replies, The house is actually only 2 years old and has new wiring. I am out of town right now and can't look at the breaker box but I will def. make sure to add everything up. Thanks about the avatar, lol, IC stocks us with some good ones.
 

turbo14

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Should I install or change the 15 amp to 20 amp? What needs to be done? What tools are needed? I have some electrician friends that could probably help me out if I really needed it. Thanks

Turbo
 

jojajico

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your light levels for that space are really really low. barely in the able to grow cannabis range. you could easily put doulbe the light in that area, ofcourse i dont kno your logistics but if you are growing for yourself you will probably see better results and yeild if you either get more lights in there or make the grow space smaller, like half.
 

bartender187

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jojajico said:
your light levels for that space are really really low. barely in the able to grow cannabis range.

I would have to disagree... 1200 watts for 6x6 will easily grow cannabis. Of course you could stick more wattage in there,,,,,, but Ide only do that if you can properly cool it. 1200 watts in a 6x6 is roughly 33 watts a square foot... The recommended for flowerin is 40watts/sqft... With that wattage you will still produce quality nugs. Im currently growing in a 3x10... with the same wattage...

But yah if you can afford it and can cool it, wouldnt be a bad idea to add another 600w.
 

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bartender187 said:
I would have to disagree... 1200 watts for 6x6 will easily grow cannabis. Of course you could stick more wattage in there,,,,,, but Ide only do that if you can properly cool it. 1200 watts in a 6x6 is roughly 33 watts a square foot... The recommended for flowerin is 40watts/sqft... With that wattage you will still produce quality nugs. Im currently growing in a 3x10... with the same wattage...

But yah if you can afford it and can cool it, wouldnt be a bad idea to add another 600w.
40 is the bare minumum. you will get greater yeilds and denser nugs from more light.
 

jojajico

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bartender187 said:
I would have to disagree... 1200 watts for 6x6 will easily grow cannabis. Of course you could stick more wattage in there,,,,,, but Ide only do that if you can properly cool it. 1200 watts in a 6x6 is roughly 33 watts a square foot... The recommended for flowerin is 40watts/sqft... With that wattage you will still produce quality nugs. Im currently growing in a 3x10... with the same wattage...

But yah if you can afford it and can cool it, wouldnt be a bad idea to add another 600w.
u just said it yourself too 40 is the bare minumum. 33 your plants are gunna struggle their enitre life.
 

ItsGrowTime

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Or throw some supplemental lighting in there like some flouros (CFL or T5) to cover the darker spots. Pretty cheap solution that doesnt require much cooling and minimal electricity.
 

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turbo14 said:
Should I install or change the 15 amp to 20 amp? What needs to be done? What tools are needed? I have some electrician friends that could probably help me out if I really needed it. Thanks

Turbo

In order to do it safely (and to NEC code), you'd need to replace the breaker and the wire on the circuit. You should be fine with a single 15a/120v circuit for 1200w and the inline fan tho...as long as there's nothing else on that circuit.
 

turbo14

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MTF-Sandman said:
In order to do it safely (and to NEC code), you'd need to replace the breaker and the wire on the circuit. You should be fine with a single 15a/120v circuit for 1200w and the inline fan tho...as long as there's nothing else on that circuit.

Thanks bro, I was kind of thinking the same.. As for the area the light covers plenty, i dont use the entire space on both side, it sits in the middle of a huge walk in closet.
 

jojajico

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ItsGrowTime said:
Or throw some supplemental lighting in there like some flouros (CFL or T5) to cover the darker spots. Pretty cheap solution that doesnt require much cooling and minimal electricity.
not really. wattage is wattage so adding 100 watts of CFL is going to consume as much as 100 additional watts of HID. also little known fact CFL put out more heat than HID lights only he light is spread over a greater area. i would strongly reccomend you upgrade the lighting to a higher wattage decision is up to you though.
 

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jojajico said:
not really. wattage is wattage so adding 100 watts of CFL is going to consume as much as 100 additional watts of HID. also little known fact CFL put out more heat than HID lights only he light is spread over a greater area. i would strongly reccomend you upgrade the lighting to a higher wattage decision is up to you though.

Thats correct but I think you missed my point. Adding some supplemental lighting wont require another big HID that needs to be cooled down, thus saving money using less watts and less supplies (ducting, another fan, etc). I meant as opposed to adding another 600w HID...not adding 600w of CFLs lol.
 

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ItsGrowTime said:
Thats correct but I think you missed my point. Adding some supplemental lighting wont require another big HID that needs to be cooled down, thus saving money using less watts and less supplies (ducting, another fan, etc). I meant as opposed to adding another 600w HID...not adding 600w of CFLs lol.


As far as i kow a 200w enviro only pulls 20% or so of them wats = 40 w


Also you can put an Enviro cm's from plant without burning .

.Heat is not an issuse when using enviro's :woohoo:




I've grown with enviro's only and got great results , but im in process of upgrading to 600w Digital and extra large(1.2m x 1.2m x 2m) HOMEBOX and was thinking of leaving a 200w red Enviro in there as well :pointlaug :chin:
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jojajico

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ItsGrowTime said:
Thats correct but I think you missed my point. Adding some supplemental lighting wont require another big HID that needs to be cooled down, thus saving money using less watts and less supplies (ducting, another fan, etc). I meant as opposed to adding another 600w HID...not adding 600w of CFLs lol.
it be cheaper and more cost effective in the long run to simply go with another HID light. remember that CFL put out more heat than a HID the heat is simply spread over a greater area its more diffuse. if you want to do it right adding CFL is no the way to go.
 

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cobo said:
As far as i kow a 200w enviro only pulls 20% or so of them wats = 40 w

Ummm....that would be a 40w light then. The 200w enviros actually pull 200w of power. You're thinking of the equivalent incandescent shit they put on the packaging for marketing purposes where a 13w puts out the equivalent of a 60w incandescent...the problem is that incandescents are horribly inefficient so they're comparing apples to oranges.
 

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