New room new plants new grower advice welcome

[Wnt2grow420]

elcome
OK guys new to the growing so looking for some advice, set up a nice little area in my closet 4ftx2ft. 8ft tall I was able to pick up a clone and also a root bound 3 footer.. I have since transplanted the big girl and my clone once that was bound. The both started out fine after transplant but after a week they are starting to go down hill.

Prior to all of this I was given permission to use hps and Mh lighting bought myself a 400watt lamp. That quickly change due to my wonderful father being a hypocrite, so I have been forced to go out and get shop lights. (Lights of America) from Walmart and using old bulbs for now, for I spent a good chunk on lights that I cant use.. why don't ask cus I don't even know.

As of now I have 2 23 watt warm white CFL blubs on my clone and 3 48inch shop lights on my 3 footer, as I said using old bulbs from my house so sadly I'm not sure exactly the lumens or the kalvins I'm outputting but it's anywhere from 10,800 to 17,400 lumens and 18,000 to 30,000 k
Yes I know that's very vague I may be changing bulbs soon if you guys can give me some advice!!

1) tell me anything and everything else I can say to my father on why my 400w hps and Mh light will be safe in my closet lmao because I already have it !!!
2) do I need more lights if so daylight correct?
3) thank you
4) leaves are definitely struggling I will get those to you guys soon

https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=72094

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I apologize for the few pictures I will get more detailed ones by Monday.. I just haven't wanted to take pictures of them I'm not that proud yet

 

[Wolfshadoe]

Welcome

Welcome

#1..

Your father is absolutely>>>Right!!!.. Safety comes first..Sounds like he is cool enough to let you atleast dabble..

#2..You would be surprised just how well plants do under floro's for veg/clones/mothers ect. if you are in area that you can put y bigger plant outside? ..Remember to put a good wind flow on them..Keep those leaves jiggling
Good luck..<ws>

EDIT:: After looking again at y set up..Go to cloneing section and chop that plant up into clones. That's prolly y best option..too much bottom..Stem small.
The clone looks like you mite being showing too much love and lack of co2..No advice there but good fresh air..

You can set that closet up right though..First you have to have intake/outtake of air to y room.. Sounds to me like old man NOT against it so invite him over here and he can personally speak with some of these top knotch growers,electrictions,ect..Lol..Out of my field..Good luck though..<ws>

 

[Wnt2grow420]

I will definitely get some more pictures thank you for the fast reply on the other hand. Really no my dad is trying to kill my plants he has turned off my lights for full 48 hour periods, aslo he threatened to pour acid on them it's really only because of my mother that I still have these.
- as for airflow I'm not able to alter really ANYTHING I had to tape the reflective insulation up... "no fucking holes in my walls" and cutting into the door is also a NOGO. Soild wood so he would probably kill me and keep the plants, but I am looking to find a door that I can put on and cut into. As of now I have a fan up high aiming down and a humidifier on a timer that blows a good breeze but its only circulating it's own air so I try to open both the closet door for at least an hour a day, but in doing so my humidity levels fluctuate quite a bit
-on to the cloning I'm a little unclear on what you mean.. are you suggesting I cut down the big one and turn it into many little clones? If so only bad part is back to my father.. after giving me the ok to do it in a much better spot with the different lighting and quickly changing his mind he has attempted to make it very very clear to me that I am only to have ONE plant and after that one that's it no more. I clearly haven't gotten that yet considering I still have 2 in there.
-finally I have done plenty of reading and searching but can you really not flower "well" under floro's ?

Sorry ps I live in new England actually just sprouted a seed too. Plan on just letting that get going in my room untill it's decent out (new England can never by nice it was 65 last week and 3 days later it was 21 and snowing) but going to put that one right out on my back porch

 

[Wnt2grow420]

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[Wnt2grow420]

#1..

Your father is absolutely>>>Right!!!.. Safety comes first..Sounds like he is cool enough to let you atleast dabble..

#2..You would be surprised just how well plants do under floro's for veg/clones/mothers ect. if you are in area that you can put y bigger plant outside? ..Remember to put a good wind flow on them..Keep those leaves jiggling
Good luck..<ws>

EDIT:: After looking again at y set up..Go to cloneing section and chop that plant up into clones. That's prolly y best option..too much bottom..Stem small.
The clone looks like you mite being showing too much love and lack of co2..No advice there but good fresh air..

You can set that closet up right though..First you have to have intake/outtake of air to y room.. Sounds to me like old man NOT against it so invite him over here and he can personally speak with some of these top knotch growers,electrictions,ect..Lol..Out of my field..Good luck though..<ws>

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[pop_rocks]

your dad was cool wiht you setting up this grow and now he is trying to kill your plants?
maybe you can ask his to leave your stuff alone
/could you put a lock on the door?
and then he will let you grow outdoors in his the back yard?
/crazy story,bro

the set up you have now is actually not that bad!
nice work

getting a head start indoors is a good idea if you have a spot to grow

 

[Wnt2grow420]

your dad was cool wiht you setting up this grow and now he is trying to kill your plants?
maybe you can ask his to leave your stuff alone
/could you put a lock on the door?
and then he will let you grow outdoors in his the back yard?
/crazy story,bro

the set up you have now is actually not that bad!
nice work

getting a head start indoors is a good idea if you have a spot to grow

Ya man he was all cool with a spot in my basement well ventilated and everything bigger then he said no what ever so on and so forth... I put a lock on my closet doors and then even more shit hit the fan with him.. he's bipolar and just flat out a crazy hypocrite. Still need some advice with lighting tho as well as the plants themselves got some more pictures today

 

[Wnt2grow420]

 

[Wnt2grow420]

Posted pictures in my album please go take a cool guys help me out on my baby

 

[pop_rocks]

i am willing to help,brother

first, your baby plant is kind of fubar
something is stressing it big time
the temps look good, (good on ya for posting pics of the thermometer) but it looks like it was heat stressed or somehting at some point and hasnt fully recovered
what is it growing in? is it the same strain as the larger plant down below?
also, whats under the dome?

not trying to get up in your buisnes but some background will help us going forward.
wont your pop trip about the closet grow?
maybe its best to put the bigger basement plan on hold and get some experience first
once you learn solid growing technique its easier to move ahead

 

[Wnt2grow420]

i am willing to help,brother

first, your baby plant is kind of fubar
something is stressing it big time
the temps look good, (good on ya for posting pics of the thermometer) but it looks like it was heat stressed or somehting at some point and hasnt fully recovered
what is it growing in? is it the same strain as the larger plant down below?
also, whats under the dome?

not trying to get up in your buisnes but some background will help us going forward.
wont your pop trip about the closet grow?
maybe its best to put the bigger basement plan on hold and get some experience first
once you learn solid growing technique its easier to move ahead

I know what your saying on the smaller grow to get my techniques down. I'm gonna start off by saying my tag says newbie and that's very true with that being said it's a weed.. lmao I didn't think they could die put this easy. So I'm not that upset about having to move to my room more upset about the lighting and ventilation that I really don't have now. But yes he does and is very but hurt about the closet grow . To give you a sense he was screaming the other day that my room smelt making the house smell. I said .. well I told you so. Yes 2 weeks ago he was going allow me to grow it on the downstairs windowsill.. or even in his office hahahaha I cant win.

On to the plants.. if you see in my album I have some good pictures of the bigger one as well that seemed to be hit with something as well and slowly coming back.
The clone is the same strain as the big one to be 100% honest I know it's a sativa labeled G9 I know how bad that looks on me. As for the dome the kid I got the plant from gave me that said nothing other than it might come back .. doesn't look like it at all tho but haven't lost hope

They are both in jiffy organic seed starting soil the big one has a few very light layers of decomposed rabbit manure and the clone has a very light top dressing of the rabbit manure

I did notice at about week 2 I had a very very small case of fungus gnats. Again I know my stupidity to much watering, treated with air on my soil and a good mixture of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water haven't seen anything since. (When I mean small I mean small only saw 2 in total over 4 days but haven't seen anything since .. week 4 going to 5

 

[Wolfshadoe]

Sorry for not getting back at ya.

yep.thats what I ment.. Sounds like you need to wrap this grow up and move on/out to digs more mj friendly

PR's gotcha on any further help you may need..Plenty good folk here and LOTs of knowledge ..Good luck<ws>

 

[pop_rocks]

stick around wolfshadoe!
this might be a good show

sucks man, but what can you do
as long as hes paying the bills his word is law
if he thinks things stink now, wait till they are in full flower
i will def take a look at your album later and see whats up

as far as growing the the closet goes, get a fan and leave the door open as much as you can
this will help dissipate the heat and give the plants fresh air
like the wolf' said, you want those leafs to dance

im also goign to agree wiht wolfshadoe as far as consider finding a new spot
dude, it sounds like your old man is jsut going to give you more problems as the grow progresses
why put all this effort into it when he can take it all away with one mood swing?

i will offer all the help i can, but i got nothing for you as far as dealing wiht the parents
i dont know you and i dont know your folks
it sounds like a lot is going on between you, your dad and maybe your mom
i dont know where you live but it may or may not be legal for you to even have these plants
your old man is doing you a hella solid if thats the case
you ahve to either get back onto good terms or move on,brother

 

[Wnt2grow420]

I hear ya I live in new England and he has for the most part calmed down not only that he know I paid money for the pants so as long as my mother is involvEd he would actually kill them if anything just fuck with me and threaten to do something to them. Take your time on the pictures love the responses guys &#55357;&#56856;&#55357;&#56856;

 

[pop_rocks]

so i check out the pics on your page
about the same stuff as you ahev already posted

if you turn one of the leafs that are yellowing over so you see any little spots?
could you post a pic of what the underside of the leafs look like?