New Organic Nutrients from General Hydroponics

[prophecy]

Good! Its good! ITs ok to use few products but when we MUST buy all the products from a companie to have good result that piss me off!

Do you follow the dose on the bottle? Any pictures of your plants?

 

[Carl Carlson]

Haven't gotten around to it yet, but this is what I would try with an organic, soilless medium in containers.

10 ml BioThrive Grow = 129 ppm N - 42 P - 80 K - 16 Mg
7 ml CaMg+ = 109 Ca - 22 Mg
20 ml Diamond Black = 46 K (approx. because I can't find a fully readable label online)

Total = 129 ppm N - 42 P - 126 K - 109 Ca - 38 Mg

And in bloom, keep everything @ same relative ratios, but switch out the Diamond Black for the BioBud (.5-.1-1).

Can anyone think of a reason why this wouldn't work in a passive hydro (Hempy) bucket too?

 

[headimonster]

^^^

arent u afraid of the humic acid making everything way more active? just cause theres K in diamond black doesnt make it food.

 

[Carl Carlson]

^^^

arent u afraid of the humic acid making everything way more active? just cause theres K in diamond black doesnt make it food.

good point. so go with the BioBud.

 

[Thundurkel]

Here's my girls I've been growing with the GO line and I haven't ph'd SHIT!!! I've also used Gorilla Grow and Dyno Grow on them as a top dress and things are looking great. For a bud booster I'm using Soul Synthetics Big Swell and my soil in Coco Not amended with Vermicrop Organics Vermiblend so I do a feed, water, water,water,water since the Gorilla Grow and Vermiblend give tons of nutrients to the girls. But enough of that check out how healthy these girls are and this is my first real outdoor I mean I did one last year but didn't take care of them cut early ect and weren't very big at all...

Up first is my Arizona Iced Tea from Reservation Labs it's a Red Hair Skunk x Purple Afghani and grows huge 7 foot plants in Mendo outdoors and this girl was put outside July 1st and was only a 8" revegged plant and look at her now!

Then here is my 1977 California Orange aka AE77 Cali O

Super healthy wouldn't ya say?

 

[Smorkin Labbit]

GO Line Recieved

GO Line Recieved

So I was recently out of town. I arrived back to California with an awesome package waiting for me. I was sent the full line of the General Organics nutrient line.
The rep was able to send me everything I requested.

Here’s the list.
1 Liter Bio Thrive Grow
1 Liter Bio Thrive Root
1 Liter Bio Weed
1 Gal CaMg+
2 1/2 Gal Bio Thrive Bloom
2 Liter Bio Bud

I will be running 16 plants on a 4x4 tray.
Hopefully Purple Urkles, or White Rhino.

I will running the Organic GO line against my typical SensiBloom + bloom boosters. I want to test and see if the yield ends up being nearly the same. I will be running the trays with the same environmental factors, the only difference will be the nutrients.

I will most likely be running a 2-3 week veg time, depending on how well they take off. I would ideally like to flower them at around 14 inches.

I will be getting clones hopefully tomorrow and transplanting ASAP. I’ll try and take and post pics later this week.

I’ll be initially transplanting into just coir coco and adding about 10% of the Alaskan Hummus from the GO line. Once they get transplanted into their bloom buckets they will be put into a mix of Sunshine #4 and just coir coco.

I’m sure not PHing the water will be an interesting gamble to make. Scares me at some level.

Any questions, feel free to ask.

 

[John Deere]

I'm looking forward to your grow, SL.

 

[Thundurkel]

I'll post pics of how the girls are looking now, I have added a different thing to the line though which is Aurora Synthetics Big Swell which is pretty close to being all organic and my buds really started to swell up after I started using it. Has a nice look to it also it's real syrup like with a honey orange color and smells real sweet...

 

[Chem&M]

Thundurkel: Are you using the Big Swell instead of Bio-Bud? I'm doing my first soil run in a long time with Roots Organics soils and I have just been feeding the GO products 1/2-1/4 strength here and there as needed, but would love to hear your thoughts on the swell.

I have run this line 2 x in coco and was pleased, but fear over-feeding in soil, so I have been really cutting back their rec's. Oh yeah, I don't PH either. They are fine.

 

[Admiral Canna]

I have Diamond Black and BioThrive Root as free samples from a store.

I like them good enough. Really need to run the line. But seems good!

 

[Smorkin Labbit]

Thundurkel,

I would also be interested to see how the big swell works. It seems a little pricey, around $45 a liter. Sometimes the expensive items are worth the cost, others are just a total waste of money and energy. The description sounds interesting. I haven't used any of the Aurora Synthetics yet, so I would like to learn more about the products.

What week did you start using it? And at what dilution rate?
I think I might need to pick a bottle up if it's working well for you, see how it goes.
BTW your girls look great so far. Good luck.

 

[toasted1]

ecsd in old used FFOF 3 weeks veg from cut with 1/2 nutes then 63days flower full nutes last 2 weeks flush just water for 77 days total followed the chart didnt use the bio marine or diamondback used tap water and no ph adjustment

10 days 12/12

around 5 weeks 12/12

9 weeks 12/12 day 63 start of flush

day 70 after 1st week of flush

and the finshed product

the smell and flavor from that plant was the best ecsd i ever smoked

stay safe
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[ThaLonelyStoner]

I too will be using the whole GO line on my next grow. Right now they are on straight water, I just popped them from seed last week. I have 2 Thai Lights, 2 Titanium, 2 Power Kush, and 1 BCN Diesel. They are in Rapid Rooters until the end of the week, then they will go in 1 gallon buckets. Then the fun can begin.

 

[Chem&M]

Thundurkel: Are you using the Big Swell instead of Bio-Bud? I'm doing my first soil run in a long time with Roots Organics soils and I have just been feeding the GO products 1/2-1/4 strength here and there as needed, but would love to hear your thoughts on the swell.

I have run this line 2 x in coco and was pleased, but fear over-feeding in soil, so I have been really cutting back their rec's. Oh yeah, I don't PH either. They are fine.

I still want to know about the Big Swell, but I forgot to add, even with the G.O. I ALWAYS ADD Big Bud and Overdrive. May just stick to Bloombastic and Overdrive at the end though. That's the only problem with the whole GO line. It needs another Bloom Booster really.

 

[TheRealDeal]

I'll post pics of how the girls are looking now, I have added a different thing to the line though which is Aurora Synthetics Big Swell which is pretty close to being all organic and my buds really started to swell up after I started using it. Has a nice look to it also it's real syrup like with a honey orange color and smells real sweet...

Hey just some food for thought, anything with the word "synthetic" in it is prob not even close to organic. you have organic nutes and synthetic. synthetic means not natural. And its not just the ingredients listed that makes something organic, its how its pulled out or made, and tons of organic materials/ingredients can be made "syntheticly."

 

[Thundurkel]

Thanks bro I know I just didn't have anymore Bat Guano to top dress with and had a lil 4 oz bottle of Big Swell from the 2010 Hydro Expo and it's derived from Yucca Extract, Molasses, Sugar Cane, Phosphoric Acid,Potassium Hydroxide, and L-Glycine which seemed like a more organic bloom booster than Kool Bloom would have been. Don't you agree? I just felt like my girls weren't fattening up for me at all and started thinking of using Shooting Powder on em but then I remembered I had some Roots Organics / Soul Synthetics samples and found the Big Swell . After a few days of using it I could see my girls were loving the boost in PK they started to have calyxes swelling up finally but this could also be a outdoor thing cuz it's much different to growing indoor lol I like waiting 9weeks not 3.5months!

 

[Thundurkel]

I still want to know about the Big Swell, but I forgot to add, even with the G.O. I ALWAYS ADD Big Bud and Overdrive. May just stick to Bloombastic and Overdrive at the end though. That's the only problem with the whole GO line. It needs another Bloom Booster really.

That's exactly how I feel and they (GH) told me that folks were using Bloombastic as a booster the the GO line and having great results. I'm pissed I didn't get a sample of that to use on this grow...

As for how much Big Swell and week ect I put my girls out July 1st started to use Big Swell like 2-3 weeks ago at 10ml per gal and didn't have to adjust ph at all! The last few waterings have had the Big Swell up to 15ml per gal and the girls are just loving it from what I can tell.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Not dissing the product or you for using it. prob has great results for all I know. just sayn its prob not too close to organic. Just because something is devired from these sources does not mean its organic. Its not what its devried from but more, how they were devired/extracted from these things, and with what. A lot of different chems and other unorganic things are used to pull, activate, store and keep good these other compounds.

 

[Thundurkel]

Didn't think you were bro no worries... I know what organic means lol

 

[ganjaments]

Are you guys feeding every watering with this line?

Also how much & how often are you applying BioMarine and DiamondBlack? These items aren't included on the feeding schedule..