New LED Micro Cabinet

[Dakine]

I think those are the 1/2Gallons. Wouldnt you be able to fit 1gallon pots? It looks like you have the height in your flowering box. They would fit, but they'd be An inch or 2 taller then what the pots you have in there are .. Most likely theyd just be snug, just like the top of the pots you have are.

BUT just to make sure, Those pots are tapered right? The top of the pot is the biggest, and it gets smaller as you get to the bottom?

So your Mini Flower Box is "10.5" wide 24" deep and 26" tall" ... Is the 24"deep the Length? Kinda unsure since I usually do Length, Width/Wide, Height/tall.
Since we are trying to figure out how many plants we can fit, I would take the measurements of the inside of the box only, only up to the area A pot can go against..

The Length would start from inside the door, or the first pot.. Then up to the outside of the 3rd pot or inside the wall.

Wide/Width is measurement from wall to wall short way. Or the outside of the 2 pots if there hitting both walls..

The Height should be from floor up to the highest point the plants can get..

Im very sure that you know how to take measurements. But I just want to make sure we know how much "Usable" space there is for the pots and plants.. I dont want to or want anyone to base there advice on the measurements of the entire box its self.

Does the website with the Training Rings say if you can use the smaller or bigger rings with a pot thats smaller or bigger then the diameter of the rings? Cause right now im using A ring that has A bigger diameter then the pot that its clipped on. So the legs that clip onto the pot arent going straight/vertical like some of the other rings I have on other pots.. The legs are kinda angled inward

 

[cwilly006]

So the box measurements on the inside are 24" length, 10.5" width, and 26" height. The bottom of my lights are at 21.5". If you assume 3.5" from the floor of the pot to my soil level that leaves me with 18" between the soil and top of the lights. Now my LED's are not the strongest and it seems people let their plants get 3 - 5 inches away from the lights. Now this leaves me with 15 - 13 inches of grow space. My current pots are 5 inches wide so that leaves me with .25 inches on each side of the pots. I really feel like I do not have room for bigger pots. For the rings the ones I am looking at are the same as yours. I could go smaller with the 4" but I could not go bigger with the 6" as that would be 12" and too big for my box. I could also make my own pretty easily I bet. The supplier has the 5" ones on their website but I cannot find them retail online. Don't really need 1000 of them haha.

 

[Dakine]

Are your pots 5inch wide or something close to 5 1/2 inch wide? I'll do some measurements when I get home. But if you where to put 1gal pots in there you'd have to train them like all hell broke loose.. EVen now with those pots you don't have much room..

ill show you a pic of the way I just recently trained one of my girls. I couldn't use a ring since I have her in A 1-Gal pot to veg.. But I'm using the exact same concept/technique as if I had A circle training ring..

Are you planning on using A screen? If not I'd say to try and train the girls like a mini canopy. Each girl with multiple tops. But make them the exact same height or close to the same height if possible..

I'll try to get some pics up and an idea/planthat I would do if I had the same measurements as you to grow..

 

[cwilly006]

Are your pots 5inch wide or something close to 5 1/2 inch wide? I'll do some measurements when I get home. But if you where to put 1gal pots in there you'd have to train them like all hell broke loose.. EVen now with those pots you don't have much room..

ill show you a pic of the way I just recently trained one of my girls. I couldn't use a ring since I have her in A 1-Gal pot to veg.. But I'm using the exact same concept/technique as if I had A circle training ring..

Are you planning on using A screen? If not I'd say to try and train the girls like a mini canopy. Each girl with multiple tops. But make them the exact same height or close to the same height if possible..

I'll try to get some pics up and an idea/planthat I would do if I had the same measurements as you to grow..

The pots are exactly 5" wide. I really think that I do not have any extra room for bigger pots. I did not plan on using a screen as I would have to make a small one for each plant. If I can find the support rings I will use those to keep my canopy height down.

 

[Dakine]

Here the Girl that I trained and took pics of for the before,After,and results kinda thing.. She still has to grow upwards now. I might stop tying her down.. I started to late, cause now I gotta flower her and some others to make room for new stuff.

SSSDH-Clone- This is the day I pulled her branches to the sides..






Heres another clone I topped, now shes big enough for me to Tie down. Im pull each branch in the direction its in.





But If I was topping A girl from seed, I'd tie the 2 main branches to the sides, only when there long enough and have about 3 different nodes on each branch before the main top..Then if you veg her for atleast 2 weeks, you'd have about 10-12 colas if you flower.. Thats the easiest and quickest one I like, it looks like A candle holder thingy haha.. But idk if you have the room to take them all to the sides...

 

[Dakine]

The support rings? Is that the training ring we're talking about? I think the smaller 4" inch one would be better then the 6th without A doubt.. Cause most of my pots are using A Smaller ring or Same size, theres only A couple with bigger ones..
But I like the smaller ones because when you train your plants to it, once the branches starts growing up and filling in. She is either the same size as the pot your using or just A little bigger..Rather then using A training ring the same size as the pot and when she starts filling in the branches/leaves are going way over the outside of the pot.

I was thinking about your flowering box man. What about filling the whole bottom with soil, and making A Barrier/wall so you can open the door without having to worry about soil coming out. Plus that wall/barrier will basically dictate how much soil you could put into it as long as you have enough height for the girls to grow...
I know its alot more work, you will prob have to coat the wood you used and/or cover the walls with some type of plastic, but then youd have to worry about humidity.

That would be ALOT more soil for your girls to flower in though. I think it would be easier to even train them.. You could also just spread A net over the whole area and do A scrog?

Haha sorry bro, I've always just wanted to do A grow bed. Im planning my Outdoor raised soil bed right now.


EDIT- This was the other way I Was talking about when training and topping once from seed.. IT wouldnt work at all in your box..
She was straight before I took this pic, but She got hit by A major storm since shes outside, thats why I didnt care what I used to hold the string thats tying the branches down.
-IF ANY 1 DOES THIS MAKE SURE YOU VEG UP 2 OR ATLEAST 2 WEEKS BEFORE FLOWER. TRY TO MAKE ALL TOPS SAME HEIGHT!! I DIDNT VEG AND NOW I HAVE 6-8 MICRO LARF AND 2 BIGGIE SMALL COLAS-



Sorry about the caps bro. But I've had people try this cause it actually looks pretty easy. Luckiky I was able to talk to them right before they where gonna flower.. 1-Topping,2-Branches to Tie Down, and you get 8-14 small colas if you veg right.

 

[cwilly006]

I don't think I want to go with a bed across the bottom of the box as drainage would be a bitch and I am aiming for more of a perpetual harvest. My plants will not always be from seed. I got the veg tent so I could start cloning and harvest as often as possible. I am not too worried about yield as I also have my big grow box. This is more the experimental and fun flower box. Trying not to make it too complicated.

 

[Dakine]

Err how about no-till then? Haha im kidding bro, im sorry ill stop..

So I wanted to see how big your mini box actually was, So I made a cardboard copy real quick. It kinda seemed like it was A pretty good amount of height until I actually put A seedling in there,thats stretched A little to much. I had A same pot as you but mines ugly faded green.

Have you decided what your 1st run is going to consist of? Clones ,seedlings,,and which strains?? Imo Seedlings might be A challenge, since we dont know for sure when its gonna start flowering..

I think the harvest could actually be pretty damn good.. You already know almost everything thats going to be done to the girls in order to maximize harvest...

Everything is Fem and not just the Mazar?

 

[cwilly006]

Err how about no-till then? Haha im kidding bro, im sorry ill stop..

So I wanted to see how big your mini box actually was, So I made a cardboard copy real quick. It kinda seemed like it was A pretty good amount of height until I actually put A seedling in there,thats stretched A little to much. I had A same pot as you but mines ugly faded green.

Have you decided what your 1st run is going to consist of? Clones ,seedlings,,and which strains?? Imo Seedlings might be A challenge, since we dont know for sure when its gonna start flowering..

I think the harvest could actually be pretty damn good.. You already know almost everything thats going to be done to the girls in order to maximize harvest...

Everything is Fem and not just the Mazar?

Well currently I have Mazar, Pineapple Chunk, THC Bomb, Holy Grail Kush, Aurora Indica, Critical Kush, Pineapple Express and J12(Buddies unknown strain) All of the seeds are feminized. Right now since none of my plants are big enough to take clones I am going to do the first run from seed. My plan is to keep the plants around 6" until I know they are stretching and in flower. As long as they don't more than triple in size I think I will be good. I know it will take some intense training but if you check out any of my other grows you will see that I have some experience. We will see how it goes!

 

[ReikoX]

Are you going to go 12/12 straight from seed? I did a 12/12 from seed uSOG in my PC for a while, and I really liked it. You can check it out here.

The PC was only 18" tall and most plants finished short enough without too much training. Keeping them in small containers (cut down soda bottles) is key to keeping them small during flowering. If they were getting too tall during the stretch, I would start taking fan leaves and pinching the main stem to slow them down. I found a few "keepers" (Deadhead OG, Delicious Candy, Holy Grail 69, and OG Kush) that I reverted back to a vegative state, took clones, and made moms.

Good luck, looks like a fun little project you have going on.

 

[cwilly006]

Are you going to go 12/12 straight from seed? I did a 12/12 from seed uSOG in my PC for a while, and I really liked it. You can check it out here.

The PC was only 18" tall and most plants finished short enough without too much training. Keeping them in small containers (cut down soda bottles) is key to keeping them small during flowering. If they were getting too tall during the stretch, I would start taking fan leaves and pinching the main stem to slow them down. I found a few "keepers" (Deadhead OG, Delicious Candy, Holy Grail 69, and OG Kush) that I reverted back to a vegative state, took clones, and made moms.

Good luck, looks like a fun little project you have going on.

Yep I will be 12/12 from seed for all but one plant. I think I have gone through all your grows but I will go through again with the 12/12 from seed in mind. Yea I had plans to tie, pinch and take leaves off as needed to keep them small. Thanks a lot man! Very excited to be growing some new strains!

 

[Dakine]

How do they look now? Any forward progress made since the last update?