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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

Ringodoggie

Well-known member
umm, why bother then? Smoking is bad for you, just do dabs of pure essence, and actually get high too :)

Dabs don't really get my high either. It's just a tolerance thing. I must admit, 3 or 4 dabs with the nail and I do feel a little buzz.

Edibles do it for me. I eat a gram of rosin and I am buzzed for hours.

As for smoking, I am a cigarette smoker most of my life. Off and on and right now, I am off. So, smoking joints is more for cigarette cessation and just for the pure enjoyment and the flavor of the joint.

Also, don't be so quick to say that smoking is bad for you. In the research I have been doing towards filters and cannabis smoke, ( https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=348648 ) I have found a number of studies about smoke and one of the things that seems to be agreed, is that the carcinogenic substances in cigarette smoke are activated by the other substances in the tobacco smoke.

And, yes, those same carcinogenic substances are present in cannabis smoke but the activators are not. And, one study claims that the other substances in cannabis smoke actually encapsulate the carcinogenic substance to stop it from being activated.

No cancer cigarettes. Smells like money to me.

Some results are claiming that you can actually smoke a joint for antihistamine purposes. That the terps left behind do more long term good than the short term smoke did damage.

And, that pot smoke does not activate the esophagus restrictiveness of OCPD like tobacco smoke. And on and on.

My guess is that every major cigarette manufacturer is doing research on this to try to develop a "safe" cigarette.

Can you imagine the money that a 'safe' cigarette would generate. OMG!

A big part of my smoking is just for the pleasure of smoking and, not so much, getting high. I am currently running a Med Tree high CBD/Low THC grow to see if I feel any different after smoking those than I do regular joints.

It would be a dream come true for me to smoke pot like I did cigarettes and never have a smoker's cough or wheezing or cancer or OCPD or, or, or....

And, right now, that's where I am.

Sorry for the off topic post.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

honey oil addict
Veteran
How big a dab? If you have a high tolerance, do some large dabs. A 1/4 gram will get anyone super lit in one dab, and if that still isn't doing it for ya, do half gram dabs :D I did a 0.7 once.


Lets not argue about smoke here. Suffice it to say, inhaling any burnt matter is bad for your repiratory system, is what doctors believe All kind of nasty products are made when you combust stuff.

But As i said, not here to argue. Actually my main point was why bother if you don't even get high? I never smoke Js, unless I am travelling.

I dab all day all the time, and some strains, a large dab always get you pretty fucking high :)
 

Mikell

Dipshit Know-Nothing
ICMag Donor
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This is not true.

I've had some Chem '91 sitting in jars for months with 55% humidity packs and squeezes the most frustrating-to-handle rosin ever and there is nothing wrong with my technique. I could maybe bump up the temps, but then I would most likely vape off the terps that are making it runny in the first place.

Seems like a lot of chem derivatives are like that. One day I want to see the originals.

Makes me want to poke my eyes out to package it but damn does it always taste nice.
 

Ringodoggie

Well-known member
How big a dab? If you have a high tolerance, do some large dabs. A 1/4 gram will get anyone super lit in one dab, and if that still isn't doing it for ya, do half gram dabs :D I did a 0.7 once.


Lets not argue about smoke here. Suffice it to say, inhaling any burnt matter is bad for your repiratory system, is what doctors believe All kind of nasty products are made when you combust stuff.

But As i said, not here to argue. Actually my main point was why bother if you don't even get high? I never smoke Js, unless I am travelling.

I dab all day all the time, and some strains, a large dab always get you pretty fucking high :)

Wouldn't dream of arguing with the Hashmasta. LOL

I smoke joints for the enjoyment of smoking. Some skunk strains are especially pleasing. Very 'musky' type of flavor. I have a landrace Afghan that tastes like lilacs when you smoke it.

I'm just a smoker. LOL
 

Mikell

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Hyup.

Spliffs with hash personally. Good spliff lasts a few hours on and off.

If I dab it's usually way too much somewhere between low and no temp. Tasty. Maybe a few times a month. Good for a nap. Makes the place smell nice unless I turn a can on.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

honey oil addict
Veteran
Wouldn't dream of arguing with the Hashmasta. LOL

I smoke joints for the enjoyment of smoking. Some skunk strains are especially pleasing. Very 'musky' type of flavor. I have a landrace Afghan that tastes like lilacs when you smoke it.

I'm just a smoker. LOL

Ya, I do admit the odd strain can actually taste pretty damn fine as smoke. I'd say i prefer most in extract form, but I love the smell and taste of real bubba kush. That fills the room with a lingering aroma of excellence.
 
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Gr33nSanta

That is completely not true. As Mikell mentioned, some stuff always presses runny. Stardawg crosses are typically all very runny, even after months in a jar(flowers pre-pressed). I have stuff that will drip off the razor blade, pressed weeks after harvest.

I tend to dry my weed more than most, I ve used boveda packs in the past, both the 58% and the 63% were keeping my herb way too moist for my liking. How moist was it after months in the jar? if it was still 58% or more this is what I would consider too much water. Maybe next time try bone dry and see if the rosin is still gooey.

In most case, I can very possibly be wrong but I want to make sure we are all on the same page!

On a different note, I have some very interesting lab results.

So I made flower rosin with the spacebomb flower that I thought were not dry enough or ready for pressing. The texture was insane gooey and insane terpy.

Here are the results from the rosin:
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Here is the test results from the powder left behind in the coffee filter, he said to take this number with a grain of salt because he used too much solution or something. He only tested with gas chromatography so he could not test for thca yet.
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That combined with the fact that all my rosin test super low lately makes me realize how much is left behind in the filter, I used to think it was all contaminants and now i realize about half the THCa is still in the filter!

Also I am probably going to go back to washing with only 1 set of bags since all size micron test very similar thc content. So I ll go back to washing with 200u-160u-25u.

I ll post more lab results and stuff in my journal i didnt want to do full double posts.
 
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Gr33nSanta

What temps did you press at for those results

My plates have been set to 83C pretty much ever since I started making rosin, that's what I felt was the sweet spot early on I guess, then I saw no reason to up it or down it.

One thing I like about always using the same temps is that over time I feel I can better compare cultivars even if I pressed them long ago because I know my temps were always the same, one less variable.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

honey oil addict
Veteran
You use filter paper for flower press? Parchment is pretty good, in that nothing is left behind, it all just squishes out.

I can't press bone dry flower, I would end up with tons of crunchy contaminants. I prefer fresher flowers than overly aged or dried really. The more it dries out, the more terps are lost.
 

Mikell

Dipshit Know-Nothing
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Sounds like all you did was make solventless THCa by accident, no?

Is he retesting? Did you test the flower?

Haven't repressed raw collections through a filtre since I moved from HMK press to plates on a press, but all I recall was a nearly clear piece of coffee filtre. Usually 86-90C flower presses.
 
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Gr33nSanta

Sounds like all you did was make solventless THCa by accident, no?

Is he retesting? Did you test the flower?

Haven't repressed raw collections through a filtre since I moved from HMK press to plates on a press, but all I recall was a nearly clear piece of coffee filtre. Usually 86-90C flower presses.
Yes I agree and that is why he is not retesting. well he said he kept some I think he will test with other equipment but he said I agree with you it's probably THCa.

The reason why I wanted him to test the leftovers this time was because last time I pressed my spacegrin water hash, it tested at only 33% THC and that time there was a huge amount leftover in the filter and it was also pretty much like white powder.

So after pressing the puck of dirty spacebomb flower rosin, I looked in the filter and it was once again white white powder, and I was like, oh this time I am getting this stuff tested as well!!

You use filter paper for flower press? Parchment is pretty good, in that nothing is left behind, it all just squishes out.

I can't press bone dry flower, I would end up with tons of crunchy contaminants. I prefer fresher flowers than overly aged or dried really. The more it dries out, the more terps are lost.

My focus is mainly water hash rosin, when I press flowers it's for my daily use and I don't clean it and it leaves more residue in the banger but I dab at such low temps that I can clean it easily.

If I press flowers to make a substantial amount, I press without screens or filter, only little clumps of flowers between the parchment paper.

Then I collect all the rosin very quickly without even trying to dodge contaminants and then I clean that rosin the same way I clean my hash. So yes I use coffee filters for my flower rosin as well.
 

Mikell

Dipshit Know-Nothing
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Ahhhhh. I thought you had mentioned hash first but obviously I didn't read back far enough.

Where was the spacebomb in the harvest window? Clear, cloudy, amber, etc.
 
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Gr33nSanta

Ahhhhh. I thought you had mentioned hash first but obviously I didn't read back far enough.

Where was the spacebomb in the harvest window? Clear, cloudy, amber, etc.

There was 2 plants, one that yielded very poorly in jackies room but would have been at full maturity. And the other also at full maturity represented about 3/4 of total weight.

The plant that yielded poorly the flowers were too small to move, the whole plant was pretty much an ounce of popcorn buds.

The other one was in a better SIP under better light but that room I realized I fucked up using too many rove beetles to the point that they were a pest. I removed all of the dead rove beetles via trimming extremely slowly but I still decided not to move the flowers. So I forget now I think I had total 60 grams of flowers and made 5+ grams of fine high end rosin with it all. I think I had around 9 grams of contaminated flower rosin. it was probably more like 1 gram of contaminants because we now know most of what was left behind was THCa...

So both plants were pretty decent flowers at full maturity, whole plants.

I am not sure I remember looking at those under the microscope I might even have posted pics but regardless I know they were not under ripe or popcorn buds. Nice flowers went in.

I just edited this post like a hundred times, I think its time to go blaze one. be sure you read the latest version. LOL
 

Hashmasta-Kut

honey oil addict
Veteran
Then I collect all the rosin very quickly without even trying to dodge contaminants and then I clean that rosin the same way I clean my hash. So yes I use coffee filters for my flower rosin as well.

Seems like maybe an avoidable step. I get typically 0 contaminants when I press. Nothing to clean out. But to each their own :)
 
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Gr33nSanta

Seems like maybe an avoidable step. I get typically 0 contaminants when I press. Nothing to clean out. But to each their own :)

Thats what I thought, sometimes the squirt is perfectly clean, and even if it isnt I would go around contaminants and collect such clean looking rosin.

However, when I would dab it, it would leave more residue than hash rosin in the banger.

Then I noticed that when I refilter my CLEAN LOOKING flower rosin in a coffee filter, I would endup with a rosin that dabs a lot cleaner and leaves no residue in the banger, only a clean puddle of oil.

Since then, when I make a big batch of flower rosin, I do a very botchy job, so I endup with plant matter in the rosin but I know I will clean it further so I dont worry about it I just go really fast and get a bunch of oil that I finally collect quickly and clean.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

honey oil addict
Veteran
Is the coffee filter collecting waxes then? Sounds like a worthy experiment. You repress the rosin through coffee filter onto parchment?
 
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