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New Earths right around the corner?

Space Toker

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yes a planet in the habitable zone of a red dwarf will tidally lock without a moon, I don't think there is any other way around it. But as you look at more and more massive stars, at some point they will be able to be in the habitable zone AND sufficiently far away to NOT tidally lock. This may occur with K or orange dwarfs. If those planets do not have a moon though, will they all be rotationally unstable and therefore unsuitable for higher life forms? If so, maybe red dwarfs, especially with moons, are preferable.

At any rate, yes it is exciting that they are improving the capability of ground telescopes. I still hope that TPF or something similar or maybe even better gets funded. They are funding NASA a little more than before, and reworking their priorities. If they take this chance to get more efficient and put some of the funding into robotic and telescope missions, it would be great for science. I am a huge proponent of making manned flight affordable for more people and colonizing space, but that needs to be a balanced with ambitious robotic and telescopic research missions (and funding advanced technology development). If they took a good chunk of Drug War money or regular war money and put it toward space exploration, we could fund multiple manned missions, develop advanced propulsion that will eventually take us to other stars, and have ambitious robotic missions too, like an autonomous cryobot mission to melt through the ice and explore the seas of Europa. They need to somehow get the average person excited about this, and I can't fathom how they wouldn't be. It is vital to the future of the world economy and will pay for itself many times over, if that isn't reason enough to make serious strides in exploration, I don't know what is. Thanks for your excellent input.
 

blackone

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tidal lock(from what i recall) is a given with a planet in a red dwarf's habitable zone, but that's not the end of the world(so to speak), just a very different world with possible water
Hey you just gotta use lowryders:)
 

Space Toker

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not sure I get you, not sure what autoflowers have to do with tidal locks and habitable zones, and he is right this could be very different and yet habitable. Just because I don't understand you does not mean I do not welcome your input, please elaborate! ;) :D
 

ibjamming

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not sure I get you, not sure what autoflowers have to do with tidal locks and habitable zones, and he is right this could be very different and yet habitable. Just because I don't understand you does not mean I do not welcome your input, please elaborate! ;) :D

No night...how else to get flowers?
 

igrowone

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No night...how else to get flowers?

thanks, i didn't get the lowryder joke either, pretty good actually
so our intrepid explorers will have some outdoor grown to boost their mood

back to spacetoker's thought on space(in this case, moon) colonization
with china's current activities/ambitions, this is getting more plausible
china seems to be laying out some plans for exploration, so we will we just watch? probably not, i think this is part of why NASA actually has the slightly better budget in grim economic times
 
lol at the lowryder joke! Also I would love to be around earth in 700 maybe 800 years an see what technology an amazing discoveries we figure out. Maybe the aliens will finally make contact with us publicly an share there technologies an such. We can finally figure out anti-gravity an fly our space ships wherever we want. lol. Wow, I need to stop wake an bakin. lol
 
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InvisibleEmpire

Man will destroy man before we ever have a chance at colonizing another "earth-like" planet. My 2cents.
 

OvergrowingKiwi

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Hey bro

I figured out where 1,2 and 3 went. Google has begun stage 3 of mapping the universe which involves deleting any undesirable planets.

Google-Death-Star--24712.jpg
 

Space Toker

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Man will destroy man before we ever have a chance at colonizing another "earth-like" planet. My 2cents.

geez you are a pessimist! :D That may be true, but despite all our short-sighted impulsiveness and selfishness, we are also the only species that cooperates to any degree. I would prefer to think that we continue down that path and one day the Star Trek dream of materialism will become irrelevant and people will do what they are good at and love rather than what the economy dictates. Then we will be free to truly open our minds and travel to the stars, and eventually all over the universe.
 

Space Toker

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Hey bro

I figured out where 1,2 and 3 went. Google has begun stage 3 of mapping the universe which involves deleting any undesirable planets.

Google-Death-Star--24712.jpg

HAHAHA
good one! I wouldn't doubt it! :D Actually the "missing" planets were designations of fictitious test planets or something.
 

Space Toker

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what was the deal with that yahoo video from Faux News yesterday that said a habitable earth-like planet was found? They had Michio Kaku saying it was a big deal and all, but they acted like it was a brand new discovery and that planet, Gliese 581g I believe, was discovered in 2010. You don't see it mentioned anywhere else, so I hope it is true! Maybe they confirmed it existed and that it was potentially habitable. I hope, soon, they will have something definitive but they will probably need something powerful like the iffy TPF mission for that.
 

NOKUY

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i'm not used to this 'earth'

......and don't have time to figure another planet out
 

Stoner4Life

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what was the deal with that yahoo video from Faux News yesterday that said a habitable earth-like planet was found? They had Michio Kaku saying it was a big deal and all, but they acted like it was a brand new discovery and that planet, Gliese 581g I believe, was discovered in 2010. You don't see it mentioned anywhere else, so I hope it is true! Maybe they confirmed it existed and that it was potentially habitable. I hope, soon, they will have something definitive but they will probably need something powerful like the iffy TPF mission for that.

face it Space Toker, you are NOT to be among the chosen we've selected to inhabit our new world and society, sorry bro but you don't even know the secret handshake.......

nanu nanu.
 

Space Toker

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yeah man I know it kind of seems that way, I keep signaling them with my bright spotlight flashlight that I flash in morse-code like bursts to say I am here and want to to back home. But they do not listen, they do not come and get me, I wonder what I did wrong! ;) :D
Hey I can learn the damn handshake, welcome me already as I need to be part of some inner circle! :D
Seriously though I hope 2012 is not some doom and gloom thing but a warm welcome from aliens to visit them and join the intergalactic community. I can only hope!
 

Budweiser13

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I seen the news report about the newly discovered planet they were talking to that michu what ever is name is guy they said it is like 20 million light years away we will never even get there fuck...:wave:
 

trichrider

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really now
wtf is tidal lock?
does a planet have to spin? if so, how can tides be locked? i missed something.
 
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