NEW.BOG Preservation Project.

[Bongojaz]

The fridge is a great place to store seeds. You don't just place the seeds in there. I use a black zipper pouch with the seeds in there individual bags. Most of us do not have climate controlled areas to keep our seeds. I have never had seeds go bad keeping them in the fridge. I have had seeds go bad by keeping them out of the fridge.

no, it's not, and there is no argument. i was a laboratory manager in a major universities microbiology/immunology dept. had thousands and thousands of samples in ultra-low temp. freezers and liquid nitrogen. as soon as you put them in, the clock starts ticking. when they find a thousand year old freezer with viable seeds in them, get back to me on the germination rates. you don't need or want your beans in "any" kind of climate controlled environment. opening and closing fridges and freezers, and the ever changing temps. in them, make them a poor choice. and, the seeds won't all go bad, but you'll lose a certain % of them.

 

[Hammerhead]

no, it's not, and there is no argument. i was a laboratory manager in a major universities microbiology/immunology dept. had thousands and thousands of samples in ultra-low temp. freezers and liquid nitrogen. as soon as you put them in, the clock starts ticking. when they find a thousand year old freezer with viable seeds in them, get back to me on the germination rates. you don't need or want your beans in "any" kind of climate controlled environment. opening and closing fridges and freezers, and the ever changing temps. in them, make them a poor choice. and, the seeds won't all go bad, but you'll lose a certain % of them.

When you make statements like that you should put IMO unless you have data to back up your claims.

I agree no argument you keep your seeds where ever you like the rest of us will keep them in the fridge like we have been doing for 20 years or more. This is way off topic. I digress and will move to another thread

 

[Bongojaz]

gee thanks for telling me how to post! i thought my post was pretty clear. i have years of experience with cold storage. it's a burning fuze, period.

 

[NightFire]

gee thanks for telling me how to post! i thought my post was pretty clear. i have years of experience with cold storage. it's a burning fuze, period.

And yet world scientists disagree with you, as do the universities. The world governments spent millions of dollars creating a sub-0 seed containment facility. They did that based on the information given to them by experts.

Here is just one of hundreds of universities that disagree with your "deep freeze is bad for seeds" argument.

Colorado State University:
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/Pubs/Garden/07221.html

The key with all seed storage is proper preparation. I have seeds I've germed that were over 15 yo with better than 80% success rate.

Anyway, this is off topic, I only posted this to keep bad info from proliferating.

 

[B.C.]

One Love, spreading far and wide!

One Love, spreading far and wide!

hey s.w. here's the shots of the "original" real deal bogglegum.

Good news, SW now has some original, real deal Bogglegum seeds to work with! I see thousnds of F2 Bogglegum beans in his future! lol Come back when ya can brother SW. Take care... BC

 

[hoosierdaddy]

The variance in temp thing is a bunch of hogwashed bullshit, IMO.
Nobody is going to tell me that a pack of seeds sitting in a frozen condition are going to see the effects of opening the freezer door. That just isn't happening, and I don't care how many failed horticultural management positions you have held. Perhaps it is thinking like that which led to you no longer being the manager that you claimed?

But, is it the flux in temp that you claim brings about demise to the seeds, or just the cold period?
I sat at a Waffle House and had a clear shot of the temp gauge on the door of the cooler. It was being opened and shut on a regular basis (oj, milk, other cool stuffs), and I never saw the temp on the readout change one time in an hour.
Funny how the compressor and system keeps up with the demand for additional cooling.

And how do seeds survive in the wild? I mean, surely we do not think that the frigid temps of winter do no fluctuating?

I'm sorry pal, but unless you can add some sort of reference that would back up any of your claims, the overwhelming anecdotal evidence simply blows your unfounded arguments away.

 

[Bruja64]

Just sittin' here missing SW. Sending love his way & lots of positive thoughts.
Have photos in my gallery of the LS & SB now. Not the greatest photos, but I am not much of a photographer.

As for seed storage.....I was taught to keep them in the fridge. Have always done so and had a good germ rate. If the seed doesn't germ, isn't it just because of the person planting it, or because of genetics?

Bruja

 

[KUSHYUNIT]

legit ?

legit ?

Hi Guys

I just dropped in to give out a little information.

BOG Seeds have been distributed in Toronto and the San Francisco area as well as Sacramento. There may be an outlet in L.A. soon as well

Recent decisions to ban the clubs from selling clones in the San Francisco area have increased the local demand for the clubs to sell medical marijuana seeds. Some places have BOG Seeds right next to the DJ Short Seeds and often at the same price. Sometimes lower!!!

There are some fine establishments in Oakland and Berkley that those in search of the real BOG Seeds might want to check. Not to mention any names and ruffle any feathers you understand.

I just want you to know that those carrying my seeds actually got them from me or someone I authorized. Cant say thats always true however so Beware of Imitators. Only I can authorize anyone to sell my shit ya see.

Good to see so many working with my genetics. Always hoped my work would catch on. Right now I am working on the "Sour Saver" but Lifestar has been on hold.

Mrs. BOG and I are well and we wish you all well. We continue to do what we know best and that's growing good herb just like many of you. We mind our own business but business makes it necessary to let others know that some good people claiming to have my seeds actually do.

BOG Seeds is no longer the same as it once was. Now we are legal here. BOG

this location has bog beans and sour bubble flowers . is this a legit place selling your gear ? its a mmj club in so-cal LEGAL .Alternative Herbal Health (AHH)

 

[Kinderfeld]

sorry about the wording there, i changed it. the freezer is one of the worst places to keep beans. the temperature variance is too great, even if you're not opening and closing the door all the time getting popsicles or t.v. dinners. the best place for beans is in a cool, dry, dark place. every once in a while you'll read about some thousand year old seeds being found and germinated. i'll bet they weren't in a frigidaire.

The fridge is a great place to store seeds. This has been discussed until everyone was blue in the face. You don't just place the seeds in there. I use a black zipper pouch with the seeds in there individual bags. Most of us do not have climate controlled areas to keep our seeds. I have never had seeds go bad keeping them in the fridge. I have had seeds go bad by keeping them out of the fridge.

This statement is correct. Hammerhead I don't believe he is talking about the fridge, and I think he thinks you are talking about a freezer lol. Beans will become nonviable real quick in a freezer. The fridge works well also. A cool dark place will also work. I have had 10+ beans pop in a cool dark place as well as from the fridge. I think the relevance of either a fridge or cool dark place and which is better is really over thought....they both work perfectly fine because it is the extreme change in conditions that will kill the seeds such as keeping them in a cool dark place them sticking in the FREEZER. Going from room temp to fridge however is a temp change that could happen in a day or so.

Yes the temps change in nature but it does not drop 40 degrees in one day and just become winter. So as long as the temps are kept consistent in a considerable range things will be ok. Really, in general, consitantley changing temps and pushing them to extreme along with moisture will kill seeds. I would not recommend taking seeds out of fridge every day to thaw only to stick them back in.

 

[Hammerhead]

I have never tried the freezer. I have herd it will damage living organisms so I chose the fridge.

 

[johnipedestran]

lifesaver 56 days

peace
jip

 

[stinkyattic]

I don't freeze or refrig my seeds for fear that I won't be able to thaw them correctly, or that the auto-defroster on the freezer (lab freezers do NOT self-defrost!!) will fuck them up, or that I'll lose power, etc etc etc. I have a -20 AND a stabilized -80 freezer at my disposal and still distrust the power supply enough not to want to use them.
Instead, I prefer to do a backup on any valuable seeds I have- just an open pollination to preserve the genetics, every five years. I just backed up my sourbubble (not open pollinated though). Just a tiny cutting, or tiny cuttings of all individuals, with male(s), in a rubbermaid tub.

 

[Four2Zero]

I store my seeds in the fridge. It seems to work well.

Much respect to SW and others saving the Bog genes. I am doing my own Bog preservation project as I had seven Bogglegum seeds from years ago, kept in the fridge, popped a few weeks ago and I got 4 plants from 7 seeds all but 1 cracked but 2 just swelled up like popcorn and ended up dying. Anyway, I plan to make some F2s so hopefully I wont get all of one sex... I will know very soon as I have gone 12/12 yesterday. I wanted to veg longer but a situation has caused me to expedite the grow. Here is a picture the Bogglegum is on the left and the others are JLPs SDxOG f2 and on the right Krypto Abusive x Bubba. I also plan to hit a Bogglegum bud with a male from each of those amongst other crosses planned too... Im thinking Abusive Bubbagum... Sour Bubbledog...

Peace

F2Z

 

[Uncle Remus]

FYI

I popped 5 seeds from some unknown strain that had been in my freezer for at LEAST 2 1/2 years, probably 3 1/2 if not more...3 outta 5 germed successfully and where quite healthy after 2-3 weeks of growth

IMO if you keep moisture out while freezing your beans you should be OK...I alwasys put some dry white rice in with my beans to absorb any excess moisture

 

[Bongojaz]

This statement is correct. Hammerhead I don't believe he is talking about the fridge, and I think he thinks you are talking about a freezer lol.

yes sir, i am talking about a freezer. there is nothing you can store indefinitely in a freezer.

 

[Hammerhead]

I did a bit of research on this and there is to many opinions on this to make a informed decision. half of the papers say it's fine with proper preparation and half say not to use a freezer. My educated guess would be if your having good results in the freezer then use it.

 

[Bongojaz]

well look at it this way, can you keep food in the freezer for years and eat it? no, you can't. but go ahead and put them in there, the bean companies love that, LOL....

 

[mrred]

I had 0% success rate when i put my bog seeds in the freezer because when i went to get them they wasnt there.

 

[jiggasouza]

I really support this project. I have not grown any of BOG's beans but I have wanted to for a very long time. The problem is...no seeds. Keep the good vibes alive.

SOOoooz

 

[Bongojaz]

I had 0% success rate when i put my bog seeds in the freezer because when i went to get them they wasnt there.

what happened to them?