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🤩… NEVILS HAZE x TOM HILL HAZE

MAHA KALA

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flower~power said:
From some male flowers apparently in the first run ? some became seeded .. it was only on one plant also seems kind of local which is even more puzzling I’m working my way through the bins when I get to the plant I’m going to be saving the seeds…
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I read that thai farmers pull all males and breed "females" that way it produce just only one branch of male flowers to produce seeds for next season... hehehe dont know if it is true.

I saw it happened at thai2008 distributed by derg corra collective around...

when I was growing thaihaze from skunkman, some plants put out male preflowers, and lately turned into females...

this happens when you use untested males.. but I have never released, it was made only for my own purposes... and I shared it with fp as I saw he likes these Nhz hybrids... and wanted to get him on toms haze side... to something different.

toms haze line is only thai dom original haze around. 1972 thai stick is preserved in that line somehow.
 
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MAHA KALA said:
I read that thai farmers pull all males and breed "females" that way it produce just only one branch of male flowers to produce seeds for next season... hehehe dont know if it is true.

I saw it happened at thai2008 distributed by derg corra collective around...

when I was growing thaihaze from skunkman, some plants put out male preflowers, and lately turned into females...

this happens when you use untested males.. but I have never released, it was made only for my own purposes... and I shared it with fp as I saw he likes these Nhz hybrids... and wanted to get him on toms haze side... to something different.

toms haze line is only thai dom original haze around. 1972 thai stick is preserved in that line somehow.
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Depends which post of Sams you refer to about the Thai Origins

This below seems more accurate as Sams came back to SC in 72

Soo all the OHaze you sold to seedsman TFD positronics was pure Colombian? YES UNLESS SOLD AS A HAZE HYBRID.



The emphasis all these years folks have made on thai association to OHaze is funny I GAVE BOTH RL AND G THAI SEEDS I GOT FROM GOLDEN OFF THE STICK THAI THAT WAS FANTASTIC IN MAYBE 75 IN SC. THEY MADE A FEW HYBRIDS BUT G LIKE THE PURE OHAZE BETTER AND DID NOT USE THEM AGAIN, RL LIKED THEM BUT DID NOT KEEP CLONES SO THEY WERE GONE PRETTY QUICK, THE SAME WITH S INDIAN, KERALA. I MADE MORE HYBRIDS AS I FOUND THEM INTERESTING.



It seems you answered this already but I don’t understand, you never sold any Haze x Thai / S.indian as OHaze . But you said burning bush was OHaze with a strong Thai influence



Is burning bush Colombian x Thai ? Or pure Lumbo ? NO THAI IN IT.

My questions his replies from an old post
 
willydread

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Bigherb, I have always appreciated and respected your work and your commitment to knowing the origins of the haze, and you know it, but I have stopped believing the words of Sam and Nevil.
You can call it presumption, or disillusionment, but I think so.
 
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MAHA KALA said:
I read that thai farmers pull all males and breed "females" that way it produce just only one branch of male flowers to produce seeds for next season... hehehe dont know if it is true.

I saw it happened at thai2008 distributed by derg corra collective around...

when I was growing thaihaze from skunkman, some plants put out male preflowers, and lately turned into females...

this happens when you use untested males.. but I have never released, it was made only for my own purposes... and I shared it with fp as I saw he likes these Nhz hybrids... and wanted to get him on toms haze side... to something different.

toms haze line is only thai dom original haze around. 1972 thai stick is preserved in that line somehow.
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Well, I just cut one male branch off of a big female wild thai. Here's hoping it was that one breeder branch!

Some of it's sisters are full herm though, pulling them day by day as they show.
 
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willydread said:
Bigherb, I have always appreciated and respected your work and your commitment to knowing the origins of the haze, and you know it, but I have stopped believing the words of Sam and Nevil.
You can call it presumption, or disillusionment, but I think so.
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Respect brother

I’ve spoke my feelings often of contradicting info Etc . I’m in the mindset of Respect and thanks for what has been done

I hope my Quest for the truth did not deter Sams or Nevil from sharing further information.

But I’m also Glad for my approach and Burning Desire for information. As both Sams and Nevil Shared sooo much information do to my Questions

What I really loved about Nevil was his in-depth Details . It was like a painting or movie with his words , Fact or Fiction .

We should have Technology today to better understand the Genetic makeup of Nevils Parents the never ending Colombian / Thai Debate

I’ll say again , the Lumbos of yesteryear 60’s / pre 60’s were just as long flowering and longer flowering than the Thais . Remember Colombia sits on the Equator

1luvbigherb
 
MAHA KALA

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willydread said:
I have stopped believing the words of Sam and Nevil.

You can call it presumption, or disillusionment, but I think so.
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yes I agree, it seems that skunkman did bend the truth to someones advance recently, although he didnt like that at Nevil :D hahahahah

I believe in skunkman words before 2009, in that time Ohz was lumbo/mex/thai/SouthIndian mixture...

like this post

Sam_Skunkman said:
The Original Hazes never did have much hermis, maybe the Haze with Thai bloodlines had a few. We just never used hermis for breeding period.

-SamS
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so original haze with thai blood lines??? and now it is funny to skunkman that somebody thinks there is thai in ohz LOL

Sam_Skunkman said:
I liked the lime greens with maybe a bit of Thai blood.

-SamS
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where the hell that thai appeared in that colombian, when it should be only three way colombian hybrid?
 
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MAHA KALA

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Sam_Skunkman said:
I knew both Haze growers, they live apart within 2 blocks of my home in Santa Cruz in both directions. They grew almost all Colombian Haze, until it started running out of vigor from being inbred. Then one tried Haze X Thai and S Indian to increase vigor, and grew them all for several more years.

-SamS
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so they grew colombian/thai for vigor but still colombian/thai is not thai dom line... it doesnt work like that. somebody had to select it few generations for those green thai phenos. skunkman or positronics? and was it only one batch? as later positronics haze was not like that... who knows? and who cares when you can grow it and smoke it? and see how different it is to lumbo one aka incense haze...

I think @willydread agrees that haze from Tom is thai dom. because he tried it...
 
flower~power

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That’s just an estimate amount sometimes it’s much more because I’m never really sure with the electrical company the way they charge me fluctuates I always feel like they’re ripping me off it always seems like it’s a shit ton more than it should be
 
MAHA KALA

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OldCoolSativa said:
I've been enjoying the smoke, but I must've forgotten it's always all about you.
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that is exactly why I will not share it anymore. this sucker is enjoying it, but doesnt have enough respect to give credit where the credit is due to, and instead of it he came with some sarcasm and criticism... it is very disgusting. you are shame.

I donated over 1000 seeds of Nhz x Black Vietnamese to support icmag... it is on seedbay, everybody can get it for cheap price... thats my love to icmag people. love which shines with silvery resin and intense psychoactivity.
 
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MAHA KALA

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flower~power said:
Maha’s been 😞hurt i guess.. It (NHz x Posi) it’s an achievement and brought me (and every single person who’s tried it) lots of positivity….
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to me it brought only attacks and hate. as everybody can see in this thread... if I would have known it, I didnt send it at all.. sometimes sharing goes down... it is about people.. I dont complain, just take it like it is... and also say like it is... imagine of these people they could hurt me is kind of illusion, I am surprised you believe it :D
 
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MAHA KALA

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bandaid haze x black vietnamese, A5 pheno

full


full
 
willydread

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MAHA KALA said:
I think @willydread agrees that haze from Tom is thai dom. because he tried it...
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Yes, certainly! I saw thh next to Thai and the resemblance is great; My memory sucks, but I wrote down my thoughts about it, somewhere, also in the forums....
It could be that Posi/Tom's haze is a different selection than tfd/seedsman's...
I'm absolutely certain that THH's purple phenos don't have that incense flavor, I clearly remember the black pepper scent...
The green are more lemony, herbal, The effect was stimulating, bright, energetic, in both pheno,
 
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