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🤩… NEVILS HAZE x TOM HILL HAZE

bigtacofarmer

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I have a buddy that I've been drinking beer and wine and smoking with for over 30 years. And we discuss flavors a lot. So often there is a language barrier to break down when discussing a complex flavor. It's easy to agree on if something is sweet or berry. But some flavors hit people differently and we all use words differently. It would be nice to smoke with all of the haze heads and discuss words and flavors and effect while sharing the flowers we are discussing.

I think thar would be a great way to clear up the language part. You guys will be arguing lineage forever so I have no solution for that.
 

Piff_cat

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i like this summary by nev of his line and older hazes. these 2 old haze lines are a match made in heaven. both still hold early gen freaky types but take different approaches to breeding which compliment each other.

nevs line was intentionally limited in filial generations which allowed saving nearly all of the desirable traits you look for in a haze line. male cannabis plants cant be discounted because they have the ability to create heterogenous ploidity pollen grains which carry altered chromosome counts. this is why freaks get passed down at a higher rate in nevs plants especially haze A selfed progeny.

tom on the other hand encouraged recombination but included only the most resinated/desirable selections. this seems to have created a a'bottleneck of quality" . using various mixed pollen/filial gens tom has pulled out come amazing throwbacks.
it looks like the progeny are lightning ina bottle!! haze rules flower-power

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flower~power

~Star~Crash~
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i like this summary by nev of his line and older hazes. these 2 old haze lines are a match made in heaven. both still hold early gen freaky types but take different approaches to breeding which compliment each other.

nevs line was intentionally limited in filial generations which allowed saving nearly all of the desirable traits you look for in a haze line. male cannabis plants cant be discounted because they have the ability to create heterogenous ploidity pollen grains which carry altered chromosome counts. this is why freaks get passed down at a higher rate in nevs plants especially haze A selfed progeny.

tom on the other hand encouraged recombination but included only the most resinated/desirable selections. this seems to have created a a'bottleneck of quality" . using various mixed pollen/filial gens tom has pulled out come amazing throwbacks.
it looks like the progeny are lightning ina bottle!! haze rules flower-power

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Piff cat you’re an amazing individual, you have to understand that you are intensely smarter than me it’s hard for me to understand you so I need you to speak like you’re talking to a moron
 

Piff_cat

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Piff cat you’re an amazing individual, you have to understand that you are intensely smarter than me it’s hard for me to understand you so I need you to speak like you’re talking to a moron
Lol well nev constantly harkened back to the "first haze" female a huge never ending frankincense monster that finished little yield. And yet an outcross to rudyxnl1 produxed best hash ever bit female was already xulled

nev felt of he had put the haze A male to this plant he could have gotten back to the beginning the p1.

Notice there are phenos completely non present on straight 69 haze like purple. Can't expect to capture all the genes in couple males
but with first haze in the mix previous diversity could be rescued
. I think Tom hill haze females can play the role of first haze
 

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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there is no fight. only trolling. it is clear that nevilles haze is colombian gold dom, with occasional occur of punto rojo phenos and very rare thai phenos. but you will use incense, people will get confused. when you mix positronics, it get more thai and not colombian dom haze line which is incensy and not hybrid of it to be loud frankies.

thats why I would stop declining nevilles in circles and focus on what positronics made with it...

it is pissing me off. I quoted Tom Hill on lime green and silvery pale flowers to be usually those which hit head like excellent haze. not dark flowers. in this thread already. and it is pissing me off that it is ignored, Tom Hill is not respected... people with zero experience with original haze cant tell us what is haze... yet constantly they try...

look starcrahs, it is the same, like you would grow casey jones, sour diesel x ogk, chemdogsourdiesel, sour diesel x c99 but never real deal sour diesel. and you would try to tell us what is real sour diesel. we both know sour diesel is different to all these crosses. do you get it? you cant guess from all those crosses what sour diesel is like, even you get sour diesel pheno. it doesnt work like that. and in the same manner you cant judge from haze hybrid what real haze, mother of all haze hybrids, is like.. impossible. do you get it?
 
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MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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1969 haze is bullshit, complete utterly bullshit ever! total nonsense... lies lies lies... lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lying, lying without eye smirk... straight ridiculous exhinibionistic lying...
 

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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Lol well nev constantly harkened back to the "first haze" female a huge never ending frankincense monster that finished little yield. And yet an outcross to rudyxnl1 produxed best hash ever bit female was already xulled

nev felt of he had put the haze A male to this plant he could have gotten back to the beginning the p1.

Notice there are phenos completely non present on straight 69 haze like purple. Can't expect to capture all the genes in couple males
but with first haze in the mix previous diversity could be rescued
. I think Tom hill haze females can play the role of first haze

SHAME!
 

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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I wanted to post pics here. but no, fuck it. double attack of Nevils trolls again! fun is gone... I get vomit reflex from these passively aggressive suckers. so sleazy! I cant say that I like nevilleshaze, it is not possible with these childish utterly bull shitting, punky little dick idiots.

are you fucktard? with that A and C bullshit repeating over and over? half retarded at least.

anybody who grew A progeny knows that it is colombian. no thai ever.

Yo Sammy NH is punto rojo dom. no thai...

it is another lie from guy who stated that lime green haze from skunkman is crap. now we grow it via positronics and via Tom, and we see that it is not crap, it is more thai than anything A or C, and it is more psychoactive than "legendary" work from lying guy. straight liar in my book.
 
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MAHA KALA

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there is no fight, only trolls trolling like stupid punky bitch.

it is pissing me off.
how the fuck you know haze rules, when all you grew was hybrid of it????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

starcrash attracted trolls with incense bullshit. your choice. my reaction was known before it happened.
 
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flower~power

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Piff cat thank you for the response ..Is it possible that considering the pedigree is Maha HazeX cross ..can be the best Haze in existence?
 

JKD

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@MAHA KALA

My NH keeper I had >20 years ago smelled like lemons while it was growing and turned gold within a week of hanging, what pheno might it have been? I haven’t heard NH described as citrusy. It was a potent rollercoaster high with some paranoia and strong laughing effect at times. I’ve always hoped to find it or better since I lost her.
Something you posted recently about tolerance made me think about how faulty memories are - I remember the potency of the high from this NH and all the good things. It was my introduction to this type of effect which I did not find in SSH or JH . After your post I also remembered that after a while of smoking every day this pheno could not get you high enough - even though visitors would be completely twisted. Reminiscence seems to cull the negative memories.
 

bigtacofarmer

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there is no fight. only trolling. it is clear that nevilles haze is colombian gold dom, with occasional occur of punto rojo phenos and very rare thai phenos. but you will use incense, people will get confused. when you mix positronics, it get more thai and not colombian dom haze line which is incensy and not hybrid of it to be loud frankies.

thats why I would stop declining nevilles in circles and focus on what positronics made with it...

it is pissing me off. I quoted Tom Hill on lime green and silvery pale flowers to be usually those which hit head like excellent haze. not dark flowers. in this thread already. and it is pissing me off that it is ignored, Tom Hill is not respected... people with zero experience with original haze cant tell us what is haze... yet constantly they try...

look starcrahs, it is the same, like you would grow casey jones, sour diesel x ogk, chemdogsourdiesel, sour diesel x c99 but never real deal sour diesel. and you would try to tell us what is real sour diesel. we both know sour diesel is different to all these crosses. do you get it? you cant guess from all those crosses what sour diesel is like, even you get sour diesel pheno. it doesnt work like that. and in the same manner you cant judge from haze hybrid what real haze, mother of all haze hybrids, is like.. impossible. do you get it?
This not knowing what haze is about is why I started a bunch of thh/posi and oh. I have enjoyed haze in hybrids for a long time. And never actually know how what I'm smoking compares to a pure haze. Still not sure I'll find a true 5% but I have plenty more opportunities and now I'll know if what I'm smoking or breeding with is better than what I started with or how it compares.

Definitely looking forward to try some of your at some point.
 

bigherb

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had a smile when big Herb said he tried to ignore me but he couldn’t I know How obnoxious I can be and I will take that as a compliment
Brother that post was for Maha

I clearly said that , I was actually bothered by his tone with you and his constant negativity. But maybe my Glasses give me a different view than most , I never kissed ass in my life

I see the circle closing , Best wishes

I won’t post in your thread anymore

( I’ll feel better knowing if you erased my post and not a moderator, no foul language was used , just Honesty how I always been )
 
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