🤩… NEVILS HAZE x TOM HILL HAZE

[MAHA KALA]

nobody got ever hermies from my seeds, but I know it will come one day, as any cannabis can hermie under certain condition.

I always recommend to grow tropical cultivars from cut indoors. it has its reason.

when plant puts out nanners, it means she doesnt like environment. so you can stick your bullshit about "perfect indoor environment" you know where... there is not such indoor environment for tropical plants... they are not indoor friendly.

MadMac is honest and generuous guy and his toms haze is not soapy grapefruit... yeah somebody can say that, but we know who that somebody is... and any report from such person has zero value.. it was clear beforehand that guy will give false reports about it. when somebody is used to lie daily, then that somebody even dont think it is something bad, it is his daily routine...

in the end starcrash can say somethin about quality of MadMacs seeds himself.

 

[CannaT]

I always assumed that the most famous notorious Nevils Haze that Nevil was producing for the coffee shops (while he was doing that) was from his own NH clone exclusively..

There are differences between Nevilles cuts and seedlines he offered.
The best Nevilles Haze he had was from NL5haze seedbank or Haze x NL1 not so shure....
And his Silver haze which he called "Super silver haze" which was Jack Herers fav smoke.
Those are the best of the best he found.
And keept....SSH and Nevilles Haze seed lines are from late 90's much later then his first haze cuttings he had and what made the hype in Netherlands.

 

[MAHA KALA]

so jack herrer is the best nevilles haze and indoor jack is three times better than pure haze from tropics


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[MAHA KALA]

When I took seeded buds off 5 plants the first smoke I had was full flavoured musky Haze tasting, I was/am thrilled, but afterwards I had a similar taste from another that I had forgot existed, it's a 'soapy' version of the musk, I may have smoked the same bud and it was a bit soapy but I don't think so, I was nicely high off it or them despite them being seeded bud so I don't expect any hay

This is an old post above from a Respected member about Tom Hills Haze

Is it Not Possible

Toms Hill Haze also have any bit of an Incense ?

so Tom Hill went through big numbers, never found anything soapy..

I grew numeruous THH females, I have never got soapy terps...

one guy smoked some seeded bud and got "soapy" version of musk...

please dont include me into your hate of Tom Hill. thanks.

less incense less nonsense

 

[CannaT]

so jack herrer is the best nevilles haze and indoor jack is three times better than pure haze from tropics


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I dont like to praise my things...but you say that.
Thx man
P.S. Jack Herer not Herrer I growed from Seedsman JHerrer and its nothing close to Sensi's OG version of Jack Herer.

 

[MAHA KALA]

here is my thread, numerous guys grew my gear, nobody reported hermies.

Original Haze hybrids and psychohaze phenotypes

all about them. expression hazehybrid is composed of two words, first is haze. haze is hybrid of tropical sativas, we can say it is tropical cultivar simply. not every tropical cultivar is same, so let say that haze is tropical cultivar with specific traits. one of these traits is relatively...

www.icmag.com

males in this cross were tested, and neither peyote purple x same males, neither trainwreck x same males put out nanners, grown by me and numerous different growers.

and selection of males in this cross that was not any pollen chuckin like pseudoexperts do. males were part of my personal "reproduction" of THH, It was at 2015, I grow THH from 2009, so when I selected 3 or 5 males, from big number of males, it was due to my knowledge of this line... sure I selected citric ones, not woody ones... so say it was based only on some appearance of plant is not true, it was based on my knowledge of that line, it was my second "reproduction" already and line was very known to me.

 

[MAHA KALA]

this is trainwreck bx cut from head seeds crossed with same males as nevilles haze cut. same fathers as in cross in this thread.

no hermies

 

[bigherb]

so Tom Hill went through big numbers, never found anything soapy..

I grew numeruous THH females, I have never got soapy terps...

one guy smoked some seeded bud and got "soapy" version of musk...

please dont include me into your hate of Tom Hill. thanks.

less incense less nonsense

Hate ? What is your perception of this so called hate I spew

Chill out homie , soap is so hard to believe as a trait in his Haze . Dutch Hazes have soapy phenos could one not be found in Toms Line ?

Musky piney perfume are these not possible traits we might associate or use, all different but similar descriptions for soap

Education of the palette , your taste buds . Similar post Tom was discussing earlier the Nevil described Liver Traits from Haze / Thai Side could be the metallic metal shop in his Haze , as Tom doesn’t love liver Soo Metal shop it’s his best comparison

My point We only know what we experience in life to compare or explain
Root beer in NY - sarsaparilla in other countries

I love Tom Hill I just Don’t love him when he’s a dick

I have never done/ Said anything Negative about Tom Hill or his work .

I understand the Common traits found of his work is that Thai type but many traits have been reported

I have only shared others reports Several others . That First beef was over me sharing several members reports of sandlewood Musky incense

What’s your Beef , is it just me and my love of Original Haze and it’s history or the Incense you Can’t Get away from ?

I might have to take some to Church

Toms line has shown many diff phenotypes thanks to his open pollinations .

Traits from metallic to lemon to musky to incense to Rootbeer , just like Original Haze although it’s thought to be Thai Heavy

This is the only Line to produce purple Haze
Directly Related To Sams that still surviving today

We have Ace while I believe is Related it’s not from Sams Hands .

Btw

That Quoted post was from Hazy Lady

Soo make sure you Watch your mouth

 

[goingrey]

We have Ace while I believe is Related it’s not from Sams Hands .

Maybe not even related.

I'm sure you have already read this but for those who haven't...

hi guys, old head here. below is a post ive saved from years ago now about the ot1 haze lines. he was very kind in the sense he shared these sativa lines with me. *edit: another quote i found while looking through old files in the email.

Oldtimer1
9-28-1999
Posts:439
Vic my haze lines are separate from the conventional dutch hazes of sam the skunkman. To grow with tropicals indoors and under lighting, well totally different techniques are needed but to my mind they are worth it. This year I have passed on most of what I had left of my h seed stock to a friend and if he is successful the strain may carry on we will see. I do have some mums from a series of crosses m between h and ss of which hd s one, its my fav smoke and takes 9 to 10 w on 12 h.

Oldtimer1
7-16-2001
Posts: 1,032
Budm, to answer your question no, this haze line is from a commune north of Sacramento and evolved separately but at the same time as Dutchmen haze lines. I hope this helps a bit Budm, I hope i don't owe you any mail I've been ill gain and have lost track a bit. cha cal I for one would appreciate hearing about your developing scrog system and come to that any further developments with scuffing.
All the best Ot1

 

[MAHA KALA]

Hate ? What is your perception of this so called hate I spew

Chill out homie , soap is so hard to believe as a trait in his Haze . Dutch Hazes have soapy phenos could one not be found in Toms Line ?

Musky piney perfume are these not possible traits we might associate or use, all different but similar descriptions for soap

Education of the palette , your taste buds . Similar post Tom was discussing earlier the Nevil described Liver Traits from Haze / Thai Side could be the metallic metal shop in his Haze , as Tom doesn’t love liver Soo Metal shop it’s his best comparison

My point We only know what we experience in life to compare or explain
Root beer in NY - sarsaparilla in other countries

I love Tom Hill I just Don’t love him when he’s a dick

I have never done/ Said anything Negative about Tom Hill or his work .

I understand the Common traits found of his work is that Thai type but many traits have been reported

I have only shared others reports Several others . That First beef was over me sharing several members reports of sandlewood Musky incense

What’s your Beef , is it just me and my love of Original Haze and it’s history or the Incense you Can’t Get away from ?

I might have to take some to Church

Toms line has shown many diff phenotypes thanks to his open pollinations .

Traits from metallic to lemon to musky to incense to Rootbeer , just like Original Haze although it’s thought to be Thai Heavy

This is the only Line to produce purple Haze
Directly Related To Sams that still surviving today

We have Ace while I believe is Related it’s not from Sams Hands .

Btw

That Quoted post was from Hazy Lady

Soo make sure you Watch your mouth

you should wathc your mouth, as you dont know what you are talking about... because you didnt grow it... or one plant or so? I love when somebody who has no clue about it, try to teach me about it LOL

so you want to say that if hazylady is saying toms haze is soapy, she is right, and when Tom Hill says it is not soapy, he is wrong. right? I see your hate. I think that Tom Hill knows his gear better than hazylady

dont you want to annoy Tom Hill? aks him about "soapy" please... I think you annoyed him already back in the days, so he reacted and you are butt hurt from that time? but what I have common with it? who acts like dick? LOL in my opinion it is you.

if you think Tom Hill lies, solve it with him, not with me, okay?

 

[MAHA KALA]

and it is not possible it is soapy as Tom Hill went through many many recombinations in his line and no soapy thing appeared as he clearly said...I think it is clear. no soapy.

 

[MAHA KALA]

it is true that in crosses of THH you can get plants that are very similar to classic dutch haze. but in pure THH not. I said it in Tom Hill Haze thread, if you cross THH with something too much indica, you can get muddy dirty colombian/mexican high. which for me is proof that colombian was never pure sativa, it was mixed with indica and thats why anbody who will grow original haze can get 11 weekers, like Nevil got in his hazeB or haze omega..

Tom Hill said that, he crossed PTK with haze and lost those qualities of real thai haze.

and before pseudoexpert will show narrow leaf of colombian like a proof it is more sativa than toms haze hahaha. I would like to mention that some of my crosses, which are more indica than toms haze, have more narrow leaf than toms haze.

 

[MAHA KALA]

if Jack Herer, RIP, liked NL1HazeA x skunk1, he was sure indica lover.

I know sativa lovers and cant see any sativa lover prefer Jack over true sativa like malawi gold or golden thai... dont give sense.

yes, indican lovers like Jack bud. and also enjoy white widow and sherblato and call real haze a hemp or hay

 

[bigtacofarmer]

if Jack Herer, RIP, liked NL1HazeA x skunk1, he was sure indica lover.

I know sativa lovers and cant see any sativa lover prefer Jack over true sativa like malawi gold or golden thai... dont give sense.

yes, indican lovers like Jack bud. and also enjoy white widow and sherblato and call real haze a hemp or hay

I have smoked Jack's jack with jack. It was over 20 years ago and at the time my experience with different varieties was limited. It set the standard for sativa effect in my limited experience. I wandered around in the sun with little jack all lit up. Super heady all in my face and head type high.

Since then I have smoked better sativa. And I'm sure if I had that same jack herer right now I would be more critical than I was at the time. But to call jack an indica lover takes it a bit far.

I have never grown pure jack herer to personally know what phenos pop up. And I have no idea if the pheno jack had was rare or unusual. But I can remember the high was definitely not indica dominant in any way.

Obviously it is all about perspective. I certainly am not saying it compares to some pure nld types. Just that I have smoked a strong sativa example of it myself.

 

[CannaT]

if Jack Herer, RIP, liked NL1HazeA x skunk1, he was sure indica lover.

I know sativa lovers and cant see any sativa lover prefer Jack over true sativa like malawi gold or golden thai... dont give sense.

yes, indican lovers like Jack bud. and also enjoy white widow and sherblato and call real haze a hemp or hay

Im weed lover man I love all kind of weed modern and old school. Just it need to be propper grown and thats all.

 

[goingrey]

I have smoked Jack's jack with jack. It was over 20 years ago and at the time my experience with different varieties was limited. It set the standard for sativa effect in my limited experience. I wandered around in the sun with little jack all lit up. Super heady all in my face and head type high.

Since then I have smoked better sativa. And I'm sure if I had that same jack herer right now I would be more critical than I was at the time. But to call jack an indica lover takes it a bit far.

I have never grown pure jack herer to personally know what phenos pop up. And I have no idea if the pheno jack had was rare or unusual. But I can remember the high was definitely not indica dominant in any way.

Obviously it is all about perspective. I certainly am not saying it compares to some pure nld types. Just that I have smoked a strong sativa example of it myself.

That's a cool story man, thanks for sharing!

Obviously he was a lover of the genus in general. He is famous for a book about hemp!

 

[bigtacofarmer]

That's a cool story man, thanks for sharing!

Obviously he was a lover of the genus in general. He is famous for a book about hemp!

Gunnison Colorado sheriff has my autographed copy, along with my bag of weed.

 

[goingrey]

Gunnison Colorado sheriff has my autographed copy, along with my bag of weed.

Fuck. That's no sheriff just a crook with a badge.

 

[MAHA KALA]

I have smoked Jack's jack with jack. It was over 20 years ago and at the time my experience with different varieties was limited. It set the standard for sativa effect in my limited experience. I wandered around in the sun with little jack all lit up. Super heady all in my face and head type high.

Since then I have smoked better sativa. And I'm sure if I had that same jack herer right now I would be more critical than I was at the time. But to call jack an indica lover takes it a bit far.

I have never grown pure jack herer to personally know what phenos pop up. And I have no idea if the pheno jack had was rare or unusual. But I can remember the high was definitely not indica dominant in any way.

Obviously it is all about perspective. I certainly am not saying it compares to some pure nld types. Just that I have smoked a strong sativa example of it myself.

maybe I wrote it wrongly, I try again. if Jack Herer, RIP, prefered nlhaze x skunk over pure sativa, then sure he was more of indica lover.

I smoked various Jacks numerous times, and in that time I was smoking zero pure sativa, no sativas. only jack, super skunk, sensi star, g13widow, silver haze etc... so all indicas, and even in that time jack didnt seem to me like up and energetic weed. it was always heavy stony weed with devastating end for me. and I saw for others too...

 

[flower~power]

and did you see any nanners on your plants?

I did not it …doesn’t mean I missed one plants got big impossible to inspect them every square centimeters while running everything else at the same time… I’m glad the run is almost over. It’s a relief. It actually went by pretty quick.