My guess... as far as controlling the environment and tending the plants greenhouse would be more like indoors. But as far as growth rates and terpene and cannabinoid production greenhouse would be more like outdoor.
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led05
Chasing The Present
Why do you think/feel the bolded piece of the second part?
Part because of experience. I feel there is a complexity to the flavor and high with the sun grown I've smoked. I have only tried around 10 or so of the same clones grown under lights and the sun. So my experience in comparing is limited.
Part because of some hippy reasoning, I just tend to believe man cannot improve on sunshine and great soil.
led05
Chasing The Present
Nearly all GH coverings are designed to block UV’s you know..? IME GH & out under sun entirely different for cannabis, tomatoes, most herbs, peppers, potatoes etc…. You can see, smell, taste, feel the differences, it’s very obvious. There’s Pros & Cons of both
Soils in a GH or inside should both attempt to mimic outdoor native, at least in part, I’d say even improve upon it if possible…
The most difficult things to mimic, & what makes outside so special (in good growing locations) is obviously the sun, but the variants of weather too, air movements (huge), balanced pressures of all types from insects, disease, fungus, bacteria, even virus… all that chaos, equals special and hard/impossible to ignore thousands of years evolution too under those conditions….
But people growing in temperate locations in tiny GH’s and such, believing they are tropical outdoor growers gives me a good chuckle, often… no pointing fingers but lots of heroes in here claiming / acting like experts who seemingly spout novice level shit far too often, and the inexperienced gobble it up…
Thanks for the discussion; I appreciate it
Obviously it is not tropical. But how do you feel about light deprivation on tropical varieties early in the season so they can finish in October before the sunlight weakens?
led05
Chasing The Present
For sure; and ftr I can’t stand tomatoes etc not grown in the ground under the sun, they all taste swag cardboard to me… I’m not arguing against sungrown by any means nor against you or anyone specifically for that matter…
I just know most often everyone thinks “their” ways are best & often it’s only one way they do things so lack experience in others, that often turns into pride & chest thumping which almost always kills discourse, learning & growing… And that’s All I’m here for personally
Peace
I'm more than aware of the shortcomings of growing under the sun where I live. And I'm a 98% indoor grower. But I'm always dreaming up a nice outdoor nld garden.
I love reading about everyone's ways. Not only is it interesting. But reading how other people grow and their experiences is the best way of learning how to make smart choices in my own garden.
It's sucks when egos get in the way. Either a been there done that bad attitude. Or someone trying to discredit someone else's experience for some reason. Everyone's reality is based on their own perception and all we can to if we were not their to share the experience is try to compare it to our own the best we can. No reason to be offended if someone thinks the best weed ever is something they themselves were not there to try.
led05
Chasing The Present
Exactly! ^
If you can test it all to find what works best for you, where you are then more power to you….And Constant experimenting & improvement often leads to greatness
The assumption that anyone knows what is best for another is problematic at best; but sharing our experience at least hopefully saves time and reaffirms things for one another…
I’m always speaking in generalities unless it’s made very clear, I think often I may offend others whereas it’s the furthest thing from my intent…
Peace bro
“had a momentary lapse of reason”
My guess is Pink Floyd…..
@flower~power your journal is like the best free subscription for success AND enlightenment…….
Grow on
That is something I would make real; a nice outdoor greenhouse.
Saw one recently for around 5000$ US that’s not long term big 8x10 but been around since the 60’s and (maybe?) Boeing engineers developed framework and poly panel exterior. Seemed to be sold by franchise type marketing. THAT would really be fun.
deepwaterdude
Well-known member
Indoor outdoor question is very interesting using the same clone. I ran my Romulan indoors, selected a female from the 5 I had for frost and ran that outdoors - completely different. Didn't even know she had red hairs until run outdoors and terps were huge compared to my indoor. If I grew like @flower~power with multi light rooms I might get closer to the outdoor quality.
My outdoor heavily lumbo OTH grows go at minimum 16+ weeks. Harvest early to late January usually. Compared to the ICMag haze from you, it’s weeks later to finish. Probably could go longer, but reveg then becomes a concern. Angle of sun isn’t ideal in January at Parallel 32, so there’s that.
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Geezus what an amazing grow/thread minus all the bickering … my god that was painful.
Great grow you did one hell of a job on those monsters @flower~power
Serious props
Great grow you did one hell of a job on those monsters @flower~power
Serious props
What’s up H
I’ve got some thoughts about this too but after reading this thread and hearing the ideas here I’m going to reserve my judgement and just go ahead and do it for myself this year.
Will run this Doors x Ohaze #2 cut of mine, now that she’s been ran multiple times indoors it seems only fitting I’ll see what the sun will do to her…. If even only for my own education. I can’t imagine her getting much better than this last run indoors, it’s been nearly a perfect run on her and I don’t say that lightly.
Point is it will be a great comparison. I’m at 33N should be easily finished here with plenty of room to spare. She’s looking like she wants 13 weeks on this round indoors from clone.
Tomorrow I’ll start mixing up a nice soil blend and let it cook until July. Then throw a clone off of her outside and let her rip.
Come to think of it, maybe I should throw a cut of #1 out there too and see what that does to that ones morphology (if anything) as per the previous conversations about being grown in soil vs coco w/ liquid nutes.
2 birds one stone …. And all of that.
Should be fun
Hi peeps… I had a friend visit me I was nice to hang out
led05
Chasing The Present
No questions huge differences b/w inside and outside......What’s up H
I’ve got some thoughts about this too but after reading this thread and hearing the ideas here I’m going to reserve my judgement and just go ahead and do it for myself this year.
Will run this Doors x Ohaze #2 cut of mine, now that she’s been ran multiple times indoors it seems only fitting I’ll see what the sun will do to her…. If even only for my own education. I can’t imagine her getting much better than this last run indoors, it’s been nearly a perfect run on her and I don’t say that lightly.
Point is it will be a great comparison. I’m at 33N should be easily finished here with plenty of room to spare. She’s looking like she wants 13 weeks on this round indoors from clone.
Tomorrow I’ll start mixing up a nice soil blend and let it cook until July. Then throw a clone off of her outside and let her rip.
Come to think of it, maybe I should throw a cut of #1 out there too and see what that does to that ones morphology (if anything) as per the previous conversations about being grown in soil vs coco w/ liquid nutes.
2 birds one stone …. And all of that.
Should be fun
My initial question & observations was comparing Inside, under cover in a Greenhouse, or outside - three very different environments....
I have grown many species of plants in all 3 environments and to me, inside and in a GH are more similar to each other than a GH and outside are.... inside I do not grow in a tent, have extensive lighting and either 9' or 11' ceilings, often people equate inside to a tent and one type of light, weak lighting, a tiny small environment, some people's inside areas are larger than others Green houses for instance, that space matters for numerous things.....
But if you do all 3 regularly, I think you'll learn a lot vs what others spout.... Nearly ever bit of info I share is firsthand and I've supplied the pics for years proving that, parroting others info like many do (no finger pointing) is rampant in forums like this one and many others..... You must comb through it all
I can't imagine why a person in the tropics would grow inside, few do, ones that do I've never really seen an adequate setup, though I'd certainly welcome seeing it.....
Those of us in temperate climates, kinda hard to grasp what a plant does in the tropical sun, I can't imagine it's all unicorns and fairies either, I'm sure it can be equally brutal and blessings, all wrapped into a complex existence, and that was / is kinda my point....... Nothing is quite like outdoors, and GH and indoors are way more similar than letting a plant run wild outside in my experience and that involves thousands if not tens of thousands of plants across many species I've experimented with...
GL with your testing - I wished I had a place in the lower 30 latitudes, I'd be running year round outside or under cover out there with supplemental lighting, if laws allowed...
Peace
PS: would really enjoy seeing FP putting up a GH sooner rather than later, you need help lmk
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#4 Is throwing a fresh explosion of white hairs ?? but # two remains almost at the finish line
