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🤩… NEVILS HAZE x TOM HILL HAZE
- Thread starter flower~power
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wow you smoked alot of haze BC! to me the biggest mystery is where haze B/BC dissapeared to. haze B female was dj favorite , nev didnt think it was "hazy" enough. in 2010 when nev came to mns he specifically mentions the bc clone and seeds may still be around. but it has not surfaced far as i know. maybe sammy knows what happened. the southern haze guys were so great at preserving these clones seems like this would be one to save. i think BC x A lines would have been crazy good. since the males are tied to female non haze its hard to say what line breeding haze A by itself/outcrossed to sativa could have led to. it was incredible diversity as does grinspoon. but A only makes up 25 percent of NH and the full haze C parent knocked some of those phenos off. thats why it took so well to the tia in outback. haze A lines seem to have the highest cbt while haze C have 0 this is a big distinctionShows only how great my 2015 PanoHaze clone is!
Not that Original Haze is a waste of time lol
I should know the best what I did grow. Here the list of the pure Hazes I have smoked and grown.
Smoked Nevils HzB x HzC '69 Original Haze clone from ca. 1993-1995.
Growing:
Positronics Haze in 1995.
Seedsman OH.
Oldtimers Haze, old seed stock.
ACE Purple Haze.
ACE Green Haze.
SamS Original Haze.
OH90xTHH.
& few "THH best" from MM.
Sorry if I do not grow Todds Haze.
This is the Orignal Haze of the sharing that got tested.
I believe it is OK, for having been very NLD and issued from an open pollination.
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Nexus7
Well-known member
So which one did you like the most? If you could only have one?
Maha trippy scary pheno can easily be found with selected cultivars. Even my Cinderella possesses this characteristic.
or my Mint Thh 18w Thai Pheno
Finding trippy scary cultivars is easy when you make friends with the right people.
Back to the regularly scheduled programming.
thank you man, you are real stand out and high class. you are right it is toxic person.
not sure why you deleted it oldday? but you are right. I get attacked by these persons regularly. but on the other hand, it means my work is very good hahahaha best marketin ever from this personal MAHAKALA haters club. and we both know, or any who understand sativas, that nevilles haze x black vietnamese is more sativa, more cerebral and psychoactive, than any nlskunk with hint of haze like jack herrer LOL it is clear to us.
what are there maybe a couple dozen of us that run/hunt/share our NLD experiences and here we are - one of US finds something they feel is really nice and creates a new and promising cross, shares it freely and far for others to compare and update in a dedicated thread and gets attacked. Not a good move to help our shared interest and keep these types of genetics moving. I’m not claiming to have done this as much or as long as others here but it still makes for a two steps forward one back. /getting off soapbox and smoking some haze
Peace
what are there maybe a couple dozen of us that run/hunt/share our NLD experiences and here we are - one of US finds something they feel is really nice and creates a new and promising cross, shares it freely and far for others to compare and update in a dedicated thread and gets attacked. Not a good move to help our shared interest and keep these types of genetics moving. I’m not claiming to have done this as much or as long as others here but it still makes for a two steps forward one back. /getting off soapbox and smoking some haze
Peace
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new leafs look like toms haze. zero NLhaze in it. Toms Haze will dominate. big improvement towards haze side. enjoy.
so when I express my opinion that I improved nevilles haze. remember me as guy who improved NH please. you think I expect you will think the same? not at all, I dont care what you think at all. LOL. like according to you I should be afraid not to express my opinion, in thread where my work is grown, not to touch some morons with different opinions? what you are saying is absolute bullshit imo.
plant is the truth, and what I have in hands is the truth, be sure about it, dont doubt anymore LOL
can you explain this nonsense like one can have mutual respect to haters and toxic persons? I would like to know this psychological technique???????
JohnnyChicago
Well-known member
We need a dedicated thread to this kind of stuff.
BC was there until ca. 1995. Then it got literally replaced by Nevils hybrid clones and I never saw it again. The clones were not getting sold in the most commercial shops and known especially by connaisseurs and locals.
BC and A5 did not have the best bag appeal compared to C5, HPH, MexHaze, etc. A real concern in the 90s, as until there it was all about hash and sativa landrace import weed. BC looked more like a columbian. And back then everybody wanted the better looking innovative modern dutch Haze hybrids and Skunks.
Regarding HzA, if you consider the A5 is a NL dom pheno, the HzA pedigree of NH is less than 25%. And looking to HzA through the NL dom NLHazeA is definitively misleading. Especially as we do not know exactly what type of NL5 Nevil did use in his Hazes. What we need @Piff_cat for the research, is testing the pure separated Haze types and lines. That is the key.
We have a few of them now, with the THHs, Gollis OH and mines.
I am sorry, told you I have crowd of haters, and you decided to grow my work and made public thread about it. I cant do anything with haters, so if you dont like it, just close the thread and enjoy growing your plants without this toxicity. and you will be safe. show pics only in private. when it will be public, you can bet, it will repeat again... it is your choice.
growing plant should be about joy, love and brotherhood. toxic persons make the opposite. uncontrolled jelousy, envy, hate and hostility... it is shame that such people are around the plant, but they look for some solution for their poor mental state, but only solution for them is inner transformation. plant can help, but there has to be strong desire for it, not that person hates and hates without any self reflection. then the plant will not help of course.
I am sorry, told you I have crowd of haters, and you decided to grow my work and made public thread about it. I cant do anything with haters, so if you dont like it, just close the thread and enjoy growing your plants without this toxicity. and you will be safe. show pics only in private. when it will be public, you can bet, it will repeat again... it is your choice.
growing plant should be about joy, love and brotherhood. toxic persons make the opposite. uncontrolled jelousy, envy, hate and hostility... it is shame that such people are around the plant, but they look for some solution for their poor mental state, but only solution for them is inner transformation. plant can help, but there has to be strong desire for it, not that person hates and hates without any self reflection. then the plant will not help of course.
TheDarkStorm
Well-known member
I breed for the effect, not the look.. my work is original, I dont make knock offs.
I crossed two different cuts of NH, and in both cases it was huge improvement of NH and thats why it is different than NH logically.
one of those pieces of my work you can find here and support icmag by buying it.
Asian Neville – SeedBay
www.seedbay.com
Im not disagreeing with you.. .they are young...all sorts of changes may happen as they grow... so we should just enjoy flower powers show of these. ..
I seen the asian haze an it does look great.....I do have a f1 remake of the lui hann someone did privately....uses the low land naam black x a f1 97nh....yours looks good too (but mostly worked to the southeast asian side)...I seen the other version the one using shantis cut...the guy who made it says the mother is actually nh x ac.....but looks like shantis old nh x hazeC...god know..but nice plants.....I seen one of your almost all silver plants come from your work with toms...that looks really good....keep pumping out the sativas guys...some nice specimens coming out....
I could answer,but it would be useless except to continue a useless discussion, also we both know that there is not a good relationship between us, since I've been on this forum....
But one thing I want to say: I'm not the type who goes to the forums to troll the discussions where people talk about your things, indeed, I have often made compliments and asked information about some of your crosses ....
You can ask to the people(although I guess you don't give a damn)
We can go back to ignoring each other.
Have a good evening.
Sounds like everyone's had his say and it's time to move on and back to f-p's grow. 
I take the messageSounds like everyone's had his say and it's time to move on and back to f-p's grow.
Nexus7
Well-known member
Sounds like everyone's had his say and it's time to move on and back to f-p's grow.
Yep apologies to @flower~power for my participation in the derailment.
Really enjoy watching your craft and keep doing what you do best boss!
Have some NH and a THH going right now and was actually thinking to do my own cross also. Naturally hoping for the Thai side of things. I think I'll call it THAZE aka T-HAZE ...
No stealing my strain name peeps!
Hope you don't mind a pic of NH f3 in your thread?
It comes from legenedary grower, preservationist and all round top bloke @@hempy
Looking every bit as pure Sativa as the original itself imho!
Which is no mean feat in my ultra high UV climate which seems to bring out indica traits!
Haze on icmag peeps!
Lets not let our petty differences divide us and lets let our love for Haze unite us!
Thanks for doing your part in getting the thread back on track Nexus7!
CannaT
starin' at the world through my rearview
Its low CBD 4 pure haze probably very good pheno it is...I saw some tests on pure Thai Sativa it had 17% thc with 3,64% cbd.Shows only how great my 2015 PanoHaze clone is!
Not that Original Haze is a waste of time lol
I should know the best what I did grow. Here the list of the pure Hazes I have smoked and grown.
Smoked Nevils HzB x HzC '69 Original Haze clone from ca. 1993-1995.
Growing:
Positronics Haze in 1995.
Seedsman OH.
Oldtimers Haze, old seed stock.
ACE Purple Haze.
ACE Green Haze.
SamS Original Haze.
OH90xTHH.
& few "THH best" from MM.
Sorry if I do not grow Todds Haze.
This is the Orignal Haze of the sharing that got tested.
I believe it is OK, for having been very NLD and issued from an open pollination.
View attachment 18798944
I think that CBD play importent part in that uplifting and positive high feeling with Sativas.
Found that Haze dom Jack phenos also have around 1-2% of CBD.
Thai
Thai weed detailed genetics and testing information such as most common effects and flavors. Plus read user reviews of Coffeeshop Relax's Thai.
www.coffeeshop-relax.nl
I just want to put sources of infos I found.
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yeah you agree, as you made similar cross. so you know. and many others who made this type of cross with NH.
I have to mention female seeds zamal x nev hazes always, that was some fire.
ACE are making this crosses with NH and A5 too, and it is very successful. so much better than anything from mr. nice seeds or sensi seeds hahahaha.
Mac made NH cross with thai genetics too.
but fact is that nevilles haze is changed in these crosses and it is no more nevilles haze... like in this cross star crash is growing.
so is NHTHH related to NH? yes. is it same? no. it is much more haze. and for haze lover, more haze means better logically.
anyway starcrash, I recommend to close this thread, it will be never fun with people like nexus(haters puppet) or this psychopatic cannatorium hater with his hurt butt... plus hempy the hater. just every post of them is crazy pain in the ass and almost the bullshit. like they compete among themselves who will say bigger bullshit without eye wink.
moderation is none! tons of off topic, and more than one guy felt urge to present their work in this thread - dont forget to say how it is fantastic of course, like they feel they are threatened by my cross LOL a lot of bullying too of course hempy the internet bully LOL too funny.
it is not first thread about haze that these people ruined and people with knowledge just step back and dont want to have anything common with it. including me.
moderation is none! tons of off topic, and more than one guy felt urge to present their work in this thread - dont forget to say how it is fantastic of course, like they feel they are threatened by my cross LOL a lot of bullying too of course hempy the internet bully LOL too funny.
it is not first thread about haze that these people ruined and people with knowledge just step back and dont want to have anything common with it. including me.
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