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🤩… NEVILS HAZE x TOM HILL HAZE

MAHA KALA

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:ROFLMAO:

But indeed that's a statement having improved the best Haze hybrid of the history.
that is your opinion. we can respect it or not. but other people can have different opinion.

my opinion is that hawaiian haze from Nevil is way better than NH... to give you example

and because this thread is about toms haze hybrid. let remind you Tom Hill´s opinion about it:

"The nev type shit dominated town then. Haze addicts abound. It was weak though. Compared to the heavy thai of posi."

you say the best, he says the weak LOL
 
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JohnnyChicago

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that is your opinion. we can respect it or not. but other people can have different opinion.

my opinion is that hawaiian haze from Nevil is way better than NH... to give you example

and because this thread is about toms haze hybrid. let remind you Tom Hill´s opinion about it:

"The nev type shit dominated town then. Haze addicts abound. It was weak though. Compared to the heavy thai of posi."

you say the best, he says the weak LOL

You guys have no sense of humor in the Haze threads. :ROFLMAO:

Comparing pure Haze to NLHaze hybrids is like comparing apples and oranges.
Isn't that what few years ago, you and me, used to say to Hempy and co?

Mine is no opinion, nor a preference. Reporting only a historical fact.
You guys would not be growing and using Nevils Haze genetics in your breeding, 30 years after their creation, if they had not been the best Haze hybrids.
That alone is evidence enough.

And of course, I know what is meant with improving the NH. :)
 

Piff_cat

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damn i had a feeling this pairing would be awesome. got an aneuploid om your hands with that early frost. looks like the same karyotype of the confirmed aneuploid marcus has. be nice to know which chromosome(s) are extra. because it seems like the extra one contains traits for resin production. this is his confirmed 21 chromosomer
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pipeline

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Thats really interesting, I was just reading in Robert Clark's book 'Marijuana Botany' it talks about cannabis being 20 chromisomes diploid (2n). How is that confirmed to have 21 chromosomes. Will have to look back in the thread.
 

Nexus7

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I breed for the effect, not the look.. my work is original, I dont make knock offs.

I crossed two different cuts of NH, and in both cases it was huge improvement of NH and thats why it is different than NH logically.

one of those pieces of my work you can find here and support icmag by buying it.


When and only when numerous people start reporting freaking out off Asian Neville can one call it an improvement!

Also TomHill has come full circle and concedes NH can be more potent than THH. But Tom does believe THH is better quality of high.

Problem is better is subjective. Some people like chick/social weed others want that ghost and pale effect 😉
 

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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call it an improvement!

Also TomHill has come full circle and concedes NH can be more potent than THH. But Tom does believe THH is better quality of high.

😉
then you have no problem to find reference, when he says it... I would like to read it.

I see he is saying that heavy posi thai haze, as he referred to it, is stronger when he compares it the haze in nev hybrids... so dont know where you got it??? trolling?

if you can read...

his own words:

"The nev type shit dominated town then. Haze addicts abound. It was weak though. Compared to the heavy thai of posi."
Problem is better is subjective. Some people like chick/social weed others want that ghost and pale effect 😉

so toms haze is chick/social weed? ahahahaha

yeah some prefer SSH over nevilles haze, as SSH has more bottom power, more body high to it, in same sense somebody can prefer neville haze over original haze, because it is more stony spacey and less cerebral, but these people I cant assume as true haze lovers, they like indica mixed into it... I like it all, but as true haze lover, I prefer original haze of course.

When and only when numerous people start reporting freaking out off Asian Neville can one call it an improvement!

hahahaha I can call it how I want LOL you grew it or what?
 
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MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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You guys have no sense of humor in the Haze threads. :ROFLMAO:

Comparing pure Haze to NLHaze hybrids is like comparing apples and oranges.
Isn't that what few years ago, you and me, used to say to Hempy and co?

Mine is no opinion, nor a preference. Reporting only a historical fact.
You guys would not be growing and using Nevils Haze genetics in your breeding, 30 years after their creation, if they had not been the best Haze hybrids.
That alone is evidence enough.

And of course, I know what is meant with improving the NH. :)
the problem is in reading it seems

as I understand it Tom Hill compares lumbo haze in Nev hybrids to his haze. or even more generally he talks about colombian genes as he knows it comparing it to thai phenos of his haze.

you mean the most widespread, as if there was only one seedbank in the world, it is logical that customers will buy it there, when they cant anywhere else. no competitors, and those other seedbanks which followed later, they just used knock offs like today, again no competition. of course, I dont say Nevil´s work is some junk or something like that. like I said I like his hawaiian haze and nevilles haze, either it is punto rojo pheno or super rare thai pheno. but that it would be significantly better than let say things from white buffalo, not to mention my hybrids, I dont think so at all.
 
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goingrey

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Hate to ruminate too much on one thing one guy said once in passing but.. Neville's Haze is not weak and never dominated any town. Some other Haze hybrids that trace back to Nevil? Yeah ok maybe. But Neville's Haze is a potent long flowering percy strain, in my experience.
 

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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Hate to ruminate too much on one thing one guy said once in passing but.. Neville's Haze is not weak and never dominated any town. Some other Haze hybrids that trace back to Nevil? Yeah ok maybe. But Neville's Haze is a potent long flowering percy strain, in my experience.
nobody said it is weak LOL. Tom Hill said it is weak compared to thai phenos of his haze. you grew it? probably not.

once said? I am not curious about these manipulations, I am in contact with him, I see his opinions are consistent till now.

I didnt say nevilles haze is weak, can you quote me on it?

another thought from Tom Hill:

"Folk can remember it anyway they like but for me Colombian was a bit like a fine cerebral ghani with a bzzzzz auditory in the background. Thai absolutely blew it out of the water. It just cut way deeper into your soul."
 
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goingrey

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nobody said it is weak LOL. Tom Hill said it is weak compared to thai phenos of his haze. you grew it? probably not.

I didnt say nevilles haze is weak, can you quote me on it?
Nah I never grew THH but come on, it would have to be some kind of be-all end-all in potency. And especially with the dominating some town comment. He has to be talking about some other Haze hybrids.
 

MAHA KALA

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Nah I never grew THH but come on, it would have to be some kind of be-all end-all in potency. And especially with the dominating some town comment. He has to be talking about some other Haze hybrids.
yeah that is.. never. so why do you feel so important to comment it? no talk about some specific town LOL just such english LOL means any town LOL, no he is talking about haze in all nevs hybrids.. dont waste my time please!
 

goingrey

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yeah that is.. never. so why do you feel so important to comment it? no talk about some specific town LOL just such english LOL means any town LOL dont waste my time please!
Because I have a different interpretation of what he is saying to you.

Neville's Haze I grew and smoked a lot of but made a conscious decision to concentrate on other varieties because in the long run it seemed to have a detrimental effect on my mental health. Made me into a paranoid hostile jerk. Totally my fault for abusing it to such extent, but still, not like I'm totally enamored with the strain. But weak (even compared to some "Thai pheno"), or commercially prevalent, I just don't buy it.
 
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