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Nevilles Haze 21 X Mullumbimby Madness

Stocktont

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thx for posting!
looks like a true OHz male...
see lot of similarities to the 90' OHz...
the cluster flowers...
the Seedsman male looking little different...
plz post the NH mom picture...!
many thx
M.:smoker:

90' OHz ...@end of flowering...
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Wasn’t this girl on the cover of the 1990 catalogue NL5 x Haze A? Don’t know if it was the mother of NH or a later selection…


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Stocktont

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That is not her Stocktont that looks more like 5Hzc


didn’t Nevil say the female on the cover of the 1990 catalogue was NL5 x HzA? I do agree that it looks like some expression out of the NL5 x HzC but looks is only looks. When did Nevil make Nevil’s Haze the first time? This female, A or C, on the cover of the 1990 catalogue was just before the Sensi days.


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hallo?! Hempy...well I guessed as much, nothing to add…
 
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Nexus7

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I have the NH21 x MML F2 in the making now and NH18 x MM x NH21 x MML Male also and any long term active members of icmag.com that can show they grow Haze or Sativa is welcome to a free pack.
Seeds will be ready end of march early April .


That's a mighty generous offer OJD!

I have some Original and Tom Hill's Haze adventures to get through first but would be keen to try Nevil's offering (and Old Timer's too) to see how they all stack up.

So lucky to be living now in the age of the Haze Renaissance! Thanks to all who contributed!

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CG '72

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TheDarkStorm

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didn’t Nevil say the female on the cover of the 1990 catalogue was NL5 x HzA? I do agree that it looks like some expression out of the NL5 x HzC but looks is only looks. When did Nevil make Nevil’s Haze the first time? This female, A or C, on the cover of the 1990 catalogue was just before the Sensi days.


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hallo?! Hempy...well I guessed as much, nothing to add…

The 5a(2a) got selected in 88/89...the nevils haze was made using a number of 5a test phenos between 1987-1990......that is the 5a(2a) mother of the 1997 nevils haze....you cant tell so much ther but the internode spacing is huge....looks like its been on heavy hydro feed without flush in the picture.....it has that weird almost tiny airy bits just put together as buds....
 

Raho

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. . .
As for bushy he posted after i called him out saying Nevil never sold him my Thai x to kangas MM.
Classic Hempy.
Yes, you really "called him out", and he blew giant holes in your assumptions:


Hi Hempy, whether by design, or due to failing intellectual faculties, your information is wrong.

When Nevil moved to NSW in 2011 he was completely broke and living off the dole. I had a good crop and helped him out with thousands of dollars, he promised to repay me in seeds. In the fullness of time this included your pure Thai78
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which you gave him in early 2012, a year before Kanga was jailed.

I first started growing the MMxThai78, NH21, NH21xMM and Gypsy Thai stick cut from Kanga in September 2012. The following 2013/14 season I crossed a male Nh21MM to the Gypsy Thai cut and made a couple of hundred of the seeds you are referring to. I only ever gave some seeds of that line to Thaibliss. He grew one that flowered for half a year, not something you would encounter in the MMThai78.

I also grew some Thai78 x NH5 that season, but it threw hermis, something that Nevil also noticed from his Thai78 female.

The MMThai78 and Gypsy Thai x NHMM are structurally very different, if you want I can send you some of each and you can verify it for yourself.

Nevils best plant was always the Big Mullum, he only ever had a male Oaxacan cut, and the haze hybrids weren't quite up to the Mullum's standard, which can be verified by bushpig (who also received his entire library) as well as Kanga and MrB. Nevil smoked joints that were 25% ganja and 75% cigarette, which tells you what sort of ganja man he was.

I generally liked Nevil, he was intelligent and straight to the point. His stories from his time in the Cannabis Castle and Fremantle jail were uproarious. He told me that if I invested in Auscann I would make a shit load of money and he was right. I used to visit him at Bonalbo every six moths and exchange seeds and ganja. I wasn't a sycophant like most others so he spared me the bullshit.

He liked you, he referred to you as his silver tongued Greek friend. But to me you've always been a bit of a punching bag, seeming to have your head in the position where it is easiest to punch. I never liked the way the anti-Shanti crew used to pick on you, but you were such an easy target with your gibberish and incomprehension of basic facts.

Nevil never rated Shanti, but he gave him his seeds, because Shanti lent him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I only eased back from my friendship with Nevil after I asked him if he would be giving Kanga back his seedlines after he was jailed. He said no, and that was it. Nevil resented Kanga, because Kanga didn't offer Nevil a position growing big crops with him, because Kanga didn't think Nevil had the lungs for the grunt work involved.

After that Nevil took all their lines and started selling them without giving Kanga his agreed 50%. Make no mistake, Nevil was an A grade asshole.

I've grown a cut from Sammy labelled C5, which was a big yielded with a nice euphoric high that reminded me of the NH21. But I'm more into the big old SE Asians

Anyway these are the facts. Peace to Wally, Elmer, Beanz, Mustafunk, Raho, Thaibliss, RC Colas and everyone else. Bushy.
 

TheDarkStorm

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Classic Hempy.
Yes, you really "called him out", and he blew giant holes in your assumptions:

There a two thais that are know as 78....one is hempys thai..nevil labeled that as "thia78"....and ther is another nevil labeled that as thai78.....if you see both mm hybrids grown out side by side you'll see the one has hempys thai in it in the bud structure and leaf shape...and the other one clearly has the other thai in it.......bushy says he has thai 78 pure...get him to put a picture up ofit and see if its anything like hempys....hempys is very distinct...that mm78 hybrid sold dont have hempys thai in it...its a different 78..
Nevil also had other oaxans aswell sourced from others...so he didnt just have a male
 

ojd

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I think its very special and exceeded my expectations.
There are many different NH21 x MM combinations Neville made , short phenos and long phenos of MM used and Regular and Feminized versions and some phenos are obviously better than others but ive been very impressed with all the strains ive tried from Neville's grail project, unique terps and Highs thst will impress and Sativa Junkie.

Some of the best ive tried so far is
MMxNH21 Fem
NH21xMML Reg
Swiss Thai x Nevil Haze Fem
Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Reg
Outback Haze Fem

First up for release is the NH 21 x MML F2 and hybrid line and next project will be the Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba F2 and hybrid line, very impressed with the Kariba x strain and extremely heavy on the Frankincense side and strong Sativa High , grows more like Kariba( im guessing) as grows very unique sideway branching compared to Nevil Haze.
Any Regular icmag.com contributors can have free packs of any of the grail project releases i do.
What is your opinion on the NH21 X MM ojd ?
 

ojd

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Anytime your ready bro , would be an honour to see them in your skilled Sativa hands and grown along side other great Sativa/Haze's and how you think the qualities compare.

Hit me up anytime

And that goes to any longstanding members who post on a regular
That's a mighty generous offer OJD!

I have some Original and Tom Hill's Haze adventures to get through first but would be keen to try Nevil's offering (and Old Timer's too) to see how they all stack up.

So lucky to be living now in the age of the Haze Renaissance! Thanks to all who contributed!

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rolandomota

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I just want the pack I paid for I'm patiently waiting for shipping confirmation its been 3 days since payment was made and communication stopped
I will come back and post my seeds if I get them dude seems legit as fuck I can't find a bad review anywhere but I'm sweating that's for sure and I ain't waiting for any free stuff lol dude hasn't even read those messages
 

rolandomota

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Ok everything is looking great 👍just got the e mail of payment confirmation I think I'm in business now I'm waiting for tracking cool deal man now I can start getting exited...I don't post much so this was my only option that free kariba nh cross might be worth posting for....
 

rolandomota

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No tracking number yet I was promised one by last Tuesday I dont like this ride man on a happy note I just won holy smoke from Mr nice im thinking I will add la Nina or the doors and pay soon
 

FoxMcLoud

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I think its very special and exceeded my expectations.
There are many different NH21 x MM combinations Neville made , short phenos and long phenos of MM used and Regular and Feminized versions and some phenos are obviously better than others but ive been very impressed with all the strains ive tried from Neville's grail project, unique terps and Highs thst will impress and Sativa Junkie.

Some of the best ive tried so far is
MMxNH21 Fem
NH21xMML Reg
Swiss Thai x Nevil Haze Fem
Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Reg
Outback Haze Fem

First up for release is the NH 21 x MML F2 and hybrid line and next project will be the Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba F2 and hybrid line, very impressed with the Kariba x strain and extremely heavy on the Frankincense side and strong Sativa High , grows more like Kariba( im guessing) as grows very unique sideway branching compared to Nevil Haze.
Any Regular icmag.com contributors can have free packs of any of the grail project releases i do.

ojd - this thread has been a treasure trove of info, thanks for all of the details. I'm a huuuuuge sativa/landrace acolyte. Any chance you could provide your input on the smoke flavors of the best you've tried to date? (My curiosity compels me to ask)
 

Charles-scott

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Latest word from the horse's mouth is that none of the vendors selling Nevil's seeds are legitimate. That is to say, none of the seeds are directly from Nevil, rather outcrosses made from his work. The existing vendor in Canada who is selling Nevil and Reeferman's seeds is apparently best to be avoided. Re: NH21xMM - it's a consistent performer, but I wouldn't really recommend it - personal taste - I think you can do better. Anyway I believe Nevil is planning to start a seed selling business under his own aegis in the future.
Hey man Miss my Skype calls with Nev yes guys avoid anything to do with old
School BA he took Nev and I for a ride for sure , I am working with a bunch of grail
Gear in Jamaica now .
Bush grown I sent you my email
 

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