need some guano/manure advice....

[Guest]

i have some plants veg'n in a 1 gal container and will transplant them around 12" into a 5 gal bucket.

i have some steer and chicken manure that i want to use as well as my guano, kelp and d. lime.

how much would you guys add (steer/manure) to the 5 gals of soil mix? i'm gonna use my guano as a tea in flowering and plan on adding 1 tbs of kelp per gal and 2 tbs of d. lime per gal of soil.

any advice would be appreciated?

also....would i need to let the mix sit longer than 2-3 weeks with the steer/ckn manure to let it break down?

 

[vonforne]

29 views and no one helped you. I will brother.

first up the kelp to about 1 1/2 to 2 TBS per gallon or 1 TBS and then make it apart of your tea schedule.

Cow poop. I like to mix it into the cooking soil. Are you doing that?

If you are I like to use 10% of total volume.

Are you wanting to use the chicken manure as a tea mixture or a soil additive.

If it is a soil additive I would only use about 1 cup or slightly less of the chicken manure because it tends to be hot. It is a good additive to use but just hot. 1 cup comes to about 1 TBS per gallon. Be careful though.

2-3 weeks is good for "cooking" the soil. I would go with that as your minimum time to cook though. That should give the dolomite lime to start working.

Good luck and let us know how it comes out.

V

 

[Suby]

Vman sometimes you take the words out of my mouth

Outlaw that mix looks spot on, the longer you let it sit the less chance you have of thge chicken shit heating up on ya!
Honestly I'd just use the cow manure and skip the bird dumplings lol.
Remember that perlite should constitute 20-30% of your soil mix.

S

 

[jaykush]

58 views and 2 posts.....

if it were me and the plants were hearty plants that want some good soil, i eyeball everything so myself but ill try....

10% steer
5% chicken
lots of castings or compost if you got it
i only add a little kelp to the soil and mostly in teas and foliar sprays
lots of perlite
the rest soil

let sit for 3 weeks aerate 2 times a week. keep moist.

so base around the plants your transplanting really, if there hungry add a little more if not add a little less. if you add too little you can make tea no problem.

 

[emmy75]

just curious what kind of guano are u using bird or bat?

 

[Guest]

i have a high P guano to use in flowering...

i really appreciate the responses....good looking out...

 

[BurnOne]

You can mix that chicken and steer manure in with your mix and wet it a little and let it break down for a couple of weeks. Be sure to keep it moist and stir it daily so it can get oxygen. You may want to put a couple of teaspoons of molasses in each gallon of water you use to wet it with.
Burn1

 

[HeadyPete]

The more you turn your cooking soil, the better/faster it will compost.

Kelp is a great additive/soil improver.

Use lotsa worm castings, and you may look at coir as a substitute to soil. There are many advantages over peat based mix. The PH of coir is much closer to ideal than the acidic 3-4 ph of peat, plus it is a renewable resource whereas peat farming destroys the environment (peat bogs). It also holds more water longer, while improving oxygen penetration to the roots. It comes in easy to handle compressed blocks, as opposed to big 40 kg bags of soil mix.

My mix I plan to use shortly is 50% coir, 30% perlite, 15% castings, 5% BioBizz Premix, and dolomite lime as recommended on the box. I will add kelp to that mix as well, and will try experimenting with mycorrhizae fungi additive to see if it makes a big difference. On paper at least it should improve growth while allowing a decrease of ferts used.

Your manures will substitute the BioBizz PreMix. The more different types, the better.

The lime will provide cal/mag for mj plants that love those minerals, and will help buffer the ph, so you don't have to adjust your fert solution (assuming it is neutral). Test the ph of the runoff solution that comes out the bottom of the plants, after watering/feeding. This will tell you the true numbers of what is going on in there. PH is the most important factor to control. If it is out, nothing will work, and you will waste money on ferts that can't be used by your plants. Deficiencies will soon appear!

I've used this basic mix (minus the BioBizz) with houseplants, hibiscus and others, with great success.

Good luck.

 

[HeadyPete]

Quick note on guanos:

If the animal ate fruit/flower then the guano will be high P for bloom. (Fruit eating bat = bloom)

If the animal ate insects/fish/other animals, the guano will be high N for grow. (Insect eating bat/fish eating seabird = grow)

 

[theFLINTSTONERS]

the age of a guano has a significant effect on it's nutrient composition

 

[hobosapien]

this thread is packed full of good information!

on the topic, does composted horse manure have any place in organic teas.

i have dabbled in the cultivation of many fungi, and have learned it to be one of the best widely available fungal substrates. if the idea is to 'brew' these micro organisms it seems this dung might do a fine job.

any ideas?