Need help with seedlings

[Hydropimp]

I have started the seeds in paper towel method with tap water on the paper towels .

They have shown there roots.

The first strain to pop out the shell was the white russian then the bubblebarry and lastly the G13XHP.

I have started with 3 seeds of each strain the WR all germinated the BubbleB only two and the G13XHP only two aswell.

These seeds are about 2-3yrs old.

Now the problem I am having is that the white russians they took off but now the growth has stopped. I have them under A NEW WAVE T5 withonly 4 out of th 8 floro's on.

I have been giving them tap water. They are in FFLW and now everything just stop growing need help plz. Also the room did get to 80 once now I just connected the a/c and have that under controll the RH in the room jumps around from 40 - 60% I have a trimeter and a ph pen from hanna but don't know how to calibrate lost the paper over the yrs.

All the WR have one set of leaves. Run off is about 7

 

[ripOG]

They should be fine. Just let them dry out before each watering and put them right up underneath the lights. Try to get the pH to about 6.5 before you water them. What light schedule are you using? I would suggest going to 18/6 to let the roots grow a little.

 

[mjcuresall]

How much water have you been giving them and how often?

I have no experience with Light Warrior. I'm not sure if it requires additional perlite. You might want to try very gently moving the soil away from the root for inspection. The root should be white. If it's brown, you likely have root rot.

 

[Hydropimp]

Rip good looking with the reply I have come home from work and they look a little bit bitter but them the light turned off(18/6) and I got out hopefully when the morning comes I can take a better look.

I have the lights on top of 2 5gl bucket but I have lowered the light to one bucket on each side.

I am just a little parinoid because it is my first grow in 2-3yrs so I don't want to fuck it up.

Mjcuresall I let the soil dry out before I water and give a little water around the stem not the entire cup they are in 16oz red cups.

I will make a humidity dome for them when I wake in the morning.

Thanks for the reply

 

[Hydropimp]

Am having new growth but the leaves are all droopy and pointing down the girls are about 3-4 inches away from the light cfl 4 foot tubes

 

[Hydropimp]

What STRAIN are you growing? White Russian, bubblebarry and g13Xhasplant
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) Seeds
What is the age of your plants? About two weeks
How Tall are the plants? 3-4 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? seedling
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)n/a
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 16oz cups
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) FFLight Worrior
What Nutrient's are you using?N/A
How much of each with how much water?N/a
How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? about seven
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?pen
How often are you watering?When 1 in deep of soil is dry
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?No food just water
What size bulb are you using? Cfl t5 4 of them
What is the distance to the canopy? 3-4in
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) 50-60 in room plant level about 30-40
What is the canopy temperature?just
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) the room temp is about. Day is about 70 to 80 Night have not checked
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) Don't know
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? On the slowest level
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?Sometimes
Is your water HARD or SOFT? PPM out the tap is 250 ph on my trimeter from nutradrip is 6.8 and on my hanna ph pen is 7.8 these both are 3 yrs old and I have only calibrated the nutradrip trimeter.
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?Tap
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?NO
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?NO
Are plant's infected with pest's? No

 

[Blest_1]

Which Hanna Pen do you have? I have the manual for the HI 98129/98130. If you have that one, I can scan it and post it, so you can calibrate your pen.

 

[Brother_Monk]

2 weeks, it's time to give 'em some food. 1/4 strength and I bet you will see some growth. If so, bump it up to 1/2 the following week. By the next week, they should be big enough to take a full strength dose. FFLW is meant for starting seedlings, and is a soil-less mix. There's not much as far as food in there.

When would I use Light Warrior® instead of a potting soil?

Light Warrior® is actually a soiless medium designed just for starting seeds. It’s very lightweight and holds water well, which makes it perfect for germination. Be sure to thoroughly dampen Light Warrior® before adding seeds to make sure the water is absorbed. Once seeds germinate, use a continuous feeding program for seedling stage through harvest.

Light Warrior® is the ultimate grow medium for seed starting and transplanting. And it isn’t just a grow medium—we pack it with beneficial microbes to stimulate root growth and enhance fertilizer uptake, humic acid to help in seed germination, and earthworm castings to help plants thrive. Light Warrior® is the perfect fast-draining, lightweight seed germinator for your indoor jungle.

Garden tip: Moisten Light Warrior® before you plant and allow it to drain. Never let indoor plants sit in water. Start feeding plants within five days of planting or germination.

Light Warrior Grow Medium

Enhance root growth and encourage greater nutrient uptake by plants with Light Warrior. Contains an organic blend of mycorrhizae fungi (a powerful root stimulator), sphagnum peat moss, horticultural perlite, earthworm castings, granite dust, humic acid, and oyster shell (for pH adjustment).

 

[OldPathBluSky]

With 16oz cups you need to be watering often (once a day maybe) with ph level 5.5-6.5, but don't overwater. I would give it 2 oz. every other day for the 2nd and 3rd weeks. What are you planning on transferring them to? Also I just noticed that you're using tap water at 250 ppm, you should get a soil kit test and see how much N-P-K is in the tap water to see its contents.

 

[Ajunta Pall]

Hydro, I once had a problem similar to yours. Could be heat stress. The leaves of my plants were drooping too, and I had them under 4 flo tubes as well. I watered my babies and moved the lights a little higher and they returned to normal after a while. Perhaps this can solve part of your problem at least.

 

[Hydropimp]

Blest 1 thanks I just had the hydro guy amke me a copy of the instruction sheet; but good looking on your parts thanks.

Brother Monk thanks for the reply and I will feed them how you have instructed I also have ffof as well but just wanted to use the fflw to minimize any mess ups Do you have any tips on these to soils to gether?

Oldpaht they will be transplanted with FFOF and the light worrier do you know a good ratio to mix? Thanks

Ajunta I moved the lights the canopy temp was about 84 wow now it is 75

Anyone one how to upload pics?

 

[Hydropimp]

 

[Hydropimp]

I got the pic thing, but can not feed right know some still have water in the cup cup is still some what heavy.

Or should I take out the seedling and put them in 1:2 FFLW TO FFOF? and just hit with phed water RO or TAP

 

[Blest_1]

Im not experienced with FF, I use Promix w/perlite for seedlings. I dont use anything but Phed tap for the first couple weeks.

I read on another post today that RO was not recommended as for the micronutrients missing.

*Oh yeah forgot to mention this also depends on your tap water levels

 

[Hydropimp]

Well I feed yesterday @ 1/4 strengenth of FF grow hopefully they will start to lift up again it was tap with the ph @ 6.2

 

[Brother_Monk]

Yeah, good man. The Ph is a little low, can you get it up a little...6.5-6.8?

Tap water is ok, as long as it's not above 250ppm. Anything higher, and it's too hard(calcium, lyme etc.) to use.

If yer gunna mix the LW with the OF, don't mix too much LW, cause it holds moisture better than the OF. You don't want root rot. So 1:3-1:4 would be ok, just add more perilite.

I wouldn't transplant, until your plants show signs of vigor. That usually happens, when the root system gets more developed. If it's not too hot, keep the lights as close to the plants as possible. I can usually keep my flouros about 4 inches from the tops.

Good luck, and have fun!

BM

 

[Hydropimp]

Brother Monk

thanks once again for shining your light on me I just move the plants a little closer to the light as well.

I once had this chart but all my info got lost when I had to shut down the op.

I can't say how much I thank everyone who comes in here to help out.

I will get back with further pic and progress as soon as I see improvment thanks Brother

 

[Hydropimp]

Monk it would be best to always have the ph on 6.5

Did you see the pic of the droopy plant do you think it will get back up of will she just wilt and die that is what am worried about because I waited for the soil to dry a bit.

 

[Brother_Monk]

Do you have drainage holes in them cups?

I think they will all pull through, if you do what has been suggested. The drooping may be due to a little over watering. Very important to let the medium dry out. With seedlings, you should let the medium dry ALMOST completely. You want the roots to search for the moisture. Don't let it get bone dry. Do the "lift test". Lift them when they are almost completely dry. Make a mental note of the weight. Then water/feed them, and remember about how heavy they are.

 

[Hydropimp]

I have drainage holes in the cups.