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Brother_Monk
I keep mums in promix one gallon containers....they usually need a watering every 7-10 days. Your plants are much smaller than my mums. Why promix for a hydro medium? That one has me scratching my head. You can go to the local aquarium shop and buy a bag of rocks that would be way better medium if you need to go cheap. Your problem is not nutrients. I would take an edumacated guess and say its the beginning stages of root rot. And by the looks of it, the one plant that is dying is a sign that the others are soon to follow if you dont get their feet dried off. Good luck bro!
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sure.sproutco said:Maybe you should explain the proper conditioning method for reuse.
first, leach/flush the mix with lots of plain water,
to remove as much of the residual salts/nutrients.
sterilize,
re-lime, and bring moisture levels to field capacity
when you are ready to plant your new starts/clips.
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good post.Brother_Monk said:I keep mums in promix one gallon containers....they usually need a watering every 7-10 days. Your plants are much smaller than my mums. Why promix for a hydro medium? That one has me scratching my head. You can go to the local aquarium shop and buy a bag of rocks that would be way better medium if you need to go cheap. Your problem is not nutrients. I would take an edumacated guess and say its the beginning stages of root rot. And by the looks of it, the one plant that is dying is a sign that the others are soon to follow if you dont get their feet dried off. Good luck bro!
Peace
BM
ive gotta agree about the peat-based media
even plain ol' perlite would be a better idea
If anyone comes up with a better recipe, please do post it.sproutco said:For 10 gallon rez (not to add to just 1 gallon):
110 ml 3-1-4 This has 117 ppm k
117 k/2 = 59 amount of ca needed. Need 24 more. There is 30 in your tap so add no cacl2.
117/4 = 29 amount of mg needed. Need 11 more. 1/8 teaspoon epsom gal = 15 ppm mg. 11/15 x 1/8 x 10 gallons = 11/12 teaspoon epsom salts or about a teaspoon
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kokua
i don't believe we were questioning your recipe...we were questioning why you would think a recipe would help. Your recipe isn't relevant and rarely is.
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Hey thanks for all the interest guys! I'vr been out all day, so let me catch up with you all.
Kokua, I read the link man, thanks for the warning. i'll make my own decisions though.
I've been growing for a while now, just not posting. I have had an oakton pH and tds pen set for several years. i didn't take very good care of them though so they didn't work very well, very long. Since then I just have been winging it, and having little trouble. Its been close to two years now that I haven't checked a thing.
i am getting more into growing now though, so i am trying to improve every aspect of my growing technique. Hence the recent purchase of a Hanna Instruments 98130 pH/EC/TDS Gro’Chek Meter. Its not top of the line by any means, but it will give me an idea of where I am at. Yes I do have calibration solution fot both tds and pH.
The power plant nutrients were purchased in late summer I believe. So fairly recently. i am about out though, so will be in the market for more in the near future.
I don't think they are suffering any over watering, like I said they just got transplanted, from a bubble cloner into the one gallon container os promix/perlite on the 26.
the one that is lagging behind was slowest to root and had the smallest root structure at planting, so it is lagging behind. I just want it to catch up with the rest, which may or may not be possible.
You seem to have a personal problem with Sproutco. I don't care for the attitude in my thread very much at all. If you want to try and help me, That is great. But there is no need to talk shit about some one for trying to help. if you disagree say so in a civilised manner, and offer your counter advice with justification. i don't care if you like each other or not, just don't bring your shit into my garden!
I don't know how you can say my plants are not eating or
locked out?
guys I have only feed them once. They are clones 4 days out of the bubble cloner, transplanted into promix/perlite on the 26 and feed/watered once. I changed the timer to once every four days before it cycled for the second time.
good thing I read that boron thread, or else I wouldn't have a clue who you were talking about.
What can I say, i am cheap. I've not had any problems reusing it. but I will take your advice under advisment.
again, don't come to my thread to pick a fight. It comes across as childish.
thanks man, I'll see how long I can go and try to let them dry out more than I have been. I have not had many problems though watering once every two days with small plants and once a day with larger plants. I do cut the promix half and half with perlite though, so my mix is real light and drains fast. I have really low humidity, so I am more paranoid of letting tham get too dry.
Well I started out hand watering, then my garden got bigger and I didn't like hand watering anymore, so i started using the ebb and flow systems to automate the watering. I had all the media already, I just put the containers in the ebb and flow system and away I went. what can I say, I like the ease of ebb and flow and the stability and forgivness of meadia based growing.
I don't think it is root rot, like i said, they have just been transplanted and have only recieved one watering. I don't think that one plant is dying, it is just lagging behind the other clones. thanks for the help bro.!
I have reused this mix before, all I do is dump it into a big rubbermaid and pick out the woody roots and let it compost for a few weeks. No flushing so far, and no problems so far. (knock on wood) I do think I should flush eventually, but have not had the desire or need to so far. thanks for the advice though.
yeah, i don't use lime either. i do through some calcium carbonate in the promix on occasion. but I don't know if it adds any available calcium to the mix. I haven't added any in several cycles. When i get my new pH tester I may find my pH way out of wack, but I haven't had many problems over the past two years.
thanks for the help everyone! I do appreciate it. but I don't need the drama.
peace
edit: my water may start around 7.1 pH but it surely drops some when I add the nutrients to it.
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Kokua, I read the link man, thanks for the warning. i'll make my own decisions though.
I've been growing for a while now, just not posting. I have had an oakton pH and tds pen set for several years. i didn't take very good care of them though so they didn't work very well, very long. Since then I just have been winging it, and having little trouble. Its been close to two years now that I haven't checked a thing.
i am getting more into growing now though, so i am trying to improve every aspect of my growing technique. Hence the recent purchase of a Hanna Instruments 98130 pH/EC/TDS Gro’Chek Meter. Its not top of the line by any means, but it will give me an idea of where I am at. Yes I do have calibration solution fot both tds and pH.
The power plant nutrients were purchased in late summer I believe. So fairly recently. i am about out though, so will be in the market for more in the near future.
I don't think they are suffering any over watering, like I said they just got transplanted, from a bubble cloner into the one gallon container os promix/perlite on the 26.
the one that is lagging behind was slowest to root and had the smallest root structure at planting, so it is lagging behind. I just want it to catch up with the rest, which may or may not be possible.
You seem to have a personal problem with Sproutco. I don't care for the attitude in my thread very much at all. If you want to try and help me, That is great. But there is no need to talk shit about some one for trying to help. if you disagree say so in a civilised manner, and offer your counter advice with justification. i don't care if you like each other or not, just don't bring your shit into my garden!
I don't know how you can say my plants are not eating or
locked out?
guys I have only feed them once. They are clones 4 days out of the bubble cloner, transplanted into promix/perlite on the 26 and feed/watered once. I changed the timer to once every four days before it cycled for the second time.
good thing I read that boron thread, or else I wouldn't have a clue who you were talking about.
and quit re-usin soiless mix
it needs proper conditioning
if youre attemptin to re-use it.
What can I say, i am cheap. I've not had any problems reusing it. but I will take your advice under advisment.
again, don't come to my thread to pick a fight. It comes across as childish.
thanks man, I'll see how long I can go and try to let them dry out more than I have been. I have not had many problems though watering once every two days with small plants and once a day with larger plants. I do cut the promix half and half with perlite though, so my mix is real light and drains fast. I have really low humidity, so I am more paranoid of letting tham get too dry.
Well I started out hand watering, then my garden got bigger and I didn't like hand watering anymore, so i started using the ebb and flow systems to automate the watering. I had all the media already, I just put the containers in the ebb and flow system and away I went. what can I say, I like the ease of ebb and flow and the stability and forgivness of meadia based growing.
I don't think it is root rot, like i said, they have just been transplanted and have only recieved one watering. I don't think that one plant is dying, it is just lagging behind the other clones. thanks for the help bro.!
I have reused this mix before, all I do is dump it into a big rubbermaid and pick out the woody roots and let it compost for a few weeks. No flushing so far, and no problems so far. (knock on wood) I do think I should flush eventually, but have not had the desire or need to so far. thanks for the advice though.
yeah, i don't use lime either. i do through some calcium carbonate in the promix on occasion. but I don't know if it adds any available calcium to the mix. I haven't added any in several cycles. When i get my new pH tester I may find my pH way out of wack, but I haven't had many problems over the past two years.
thanks for the help everyone! I do appreciate it. but I don't need the drama.
peace
edit: my water may start around 7.1 pH but it surely drops some when I add the nutrients to it.
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kokua
sure thang...see ya later
I am accepting advice, but no i don't need the attitude, i have enough of that for us all. thanks.
pH issues eh? well, i am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my meter. what would you do in my situation? is there anything i can do in the interm? i do not have the option to run out and get test strips until tomorrow. i have the 7.1 figure to work with, surely i can grow a plant with out my magic wand for a few days.
thanks
pH issues eh? well, i am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my meter. what would you do in my situation? is there anything i can do in the interm? i do not have the option to run out and get test strips until tomorrow. i have the 7.1 figure to work with, surely i can grow a plant with out my magic wand for a few days.
thanks
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kokua
srry for bringing the attitude to your garden...I certainly understand I get so ticked off at Sproutco at times, but your right, I should just chill a bit.
His advice is soo off the wall and rarely relevent to the posted question...I get caught up in the emotion of it all. Not because I dislike sproutco (although I have grown to dislike him) but because I don't want his advice to speak for ICMAG...but with 16 posts per day, everyday, for the last 6 months it is hard for his advice to not speak for ICMAG as a whole....I know of lots of REAL growers on this fine site that haver REAL sage advice to give, but don't because sproutcrap jumps on all help threads right away with his crazy ass librarian'esk advice, and the REAL growers of this fine herb don't want the arguments...I don't mind
Again sorry if I disrupted your happy garden. You get the point. Happy Farming...Later
I get so ticked off at Sproutco at times, but your right, I should just chill a bit. His advice is soo off the wall and rarely relevent to the posted question...I get caught up in the emotion of it all. Not because I dislike sproutco (although I have grown to dislike him) but because I don't want his advice to speak for ICMAG...but with 16 posts per day, everyday, for the last 6 months it is hard for his advice to not speak for ICMAG as a whole....I know of lots of REAL growers on this fine site that haver REAL sage advice to give, but don't because sproutcrap jumps on all help threads right away with his crazy ass librarian'esk advice, and the REAL growers of this fine herb don't want the arguments...I don't mind
Again sorry if I disrupted your happy garden. You get the point. Happy Farming...Later
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kokua
you didn't, no worries
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kokua
what did you give your plants?
