Need advice on how to approach a threatening roommate

[somebody041]

Hey everyone, had an incident occur this weekend and I was hoping to get some advice from fellow ICmagers on how it should be resolved.


My girlfriend owns an apartment that she also lives in. She had a tenant sign a lease for a room for the period of August til May.

Things were fine until a few weeks ago when the tenant decided she didn't want to live there anymore. First she says she got fired from her job and she can't afford to pay full rent. Girlfriend offers to reduce rent to keep her in the room. Then the girl says she got a new job but she is still going to move out because she doesn't want to pay the full amount per month. My girlfriend says tough luck, you signed a lease, how am I suppose to find someone in the middle of the school year? (we are all students). The girl still is intent on moving out and my girlfriend warns her as she is moving her stuff out that if she violates her lease and does not continue to pay rent through May as per the lease agreement then they will be forced to resolve it by suing the girl and her cosigner (parent). The girl does not really react to this until all of her stuff is out. Then she says that if my girlfriend follows through and sues her, she will tell the police that my girlfriend sells weed out of the apartment.

My girlfriend does not have a MMJ rec but I do and I am always over there. I normally have about an ounce of bud at any given time. We do not actively sell weed but we are friends with some neighbors and occasionally they will come around looking for a 10 sack or so and we hook them up... just because they know we always have it. The girl tenant has even bought some bud before. But by no means is it a weed selling location. I'd estimate that we get someone coming over probably once every 2 weeks looking for a little bit of bud. Thinking about it now, some might even have their MMJ recs.


So, what would be the best way to play this? We really don't want to let her get away with playing so dirty. The first thing my girlfriend told her when she met her to sign the least back in summer was that we smoked weed and she had to be okay with that. The tenant is a big smoker too and had no problems with that.

What happens if we just ignore the threat and continue to send notices of past due rent?
Can the police prosecute someone because someone else who lived with them says that they sold weed but has no proof other than first hand accounts?
Can a judge hear the tenant say that weed was sold out of the house and it made her uncomfortable to be around so she left out of concern for her saftey? (This is what I imagine the tenant to say if things are brought to court.)
Can my girlfriend be prosecuted with my MMJ at her house?
Can I be prosecuted for having my MMJ at her house?


I know the best thing to do here would just be to let her go but my girlfriend is financially dependent on her rent to be able to afford the mortgage on the apartment. If we just stopped selling to the neighbors and I had my MMJ rec at my girlfriends house with the correct amount of bud could we still be at risk of being prosecuted for selling?
I'd love to hear any similar stories because I'm sure this has happened to others... or any insight anyone may have.
If you guys need any other information I'd be happy to provide it.


What to do?

 

[Macster2]

Keep going ahead with the suit and keep pot away from the apartment.Right now all these are allegations,meaningless unless you get popped.

 

[medmaker420]

Need advice on how to approach a threatening roommate

With both hands up.

 

[GeorgeSmiley]

Fuckin snitch I'd leave her out in the god damn desert.

We need a "shiv the snitch" smiley in this place

 

[geemail]

I would let her walk and be glad she is gone. It's not worth it, even if you feel it's the principle (or in the contract).

Is there a deposit involved? If not ,next time, have it in the agreement, the deposit (1 or 2 months rent), Is forfeited if some one breaks the contract next time. This will carry you a couple of months if you want to find another tenant. And the next
one that leaves early will know they will be blowing off the deposit, if they do.

It's not worth it to push it.

This is just my opinion,

G

Hey everyone, had an incident occur this weekend and I was hoping to get some advice from fellow ICmagers on how it should be resolved.


My girlfriend owns an apartment that she also lives in. She had a tenant sign a lease for a room for the period of August til May.

Things were fine until a few weeks ago when the tenant decided she didn't want to live there anymore. First she says she got fired from her job and she can't afford to pay full rent. Girlfriend offers to reduce rent to keep her in the room. Then the girl says she got a new job but she is still going to move out because she doesn't want to pay the full amount per month. My girlfriend says tough luck, you signed a lease, how am I suppose to find someone in the middle of the school year? (we are all students). The girl still is intent on moving out and my girlfriend warns her as she is moving her stuff out that if she violates her lease and does not continue to pay rent through May as per the lease agreement then they will be forced to resolve it by suing the girl and her cosigner (parent). The girl does not really react to this until all of her stuff is out. Then she says that if my girlfriend follows through and sues her, she will tell the police that my girlfriend sells weed out of the apartment.

My girlfriend does not have a MMJ rec but I do and I am always over there. I normally have about an ounce of bud at any given time. We do not actively sell weed but we are friends with some neighbors and occasionally they will come around looking for a 10 sack or so and we hook them up... just because they know we always have it. The girl tenant has even bought some bud before. But by no means is it a weed selling location. I'd estimate that we get someone coming over probably once every 2 weeks looking for a little bit of bud. Thinking about it now, some might even have their MMJ recs.


So, what would be the best way to play this? We really don't want to let her get away with playing so dirty. The first thing my girlfriend told her when she met her to sign the least back in summer was that we smoked weed and she had to be okay with that. The tenant is a big smoker too and had no problems with that.

What happens if we just ignore the threat and continue to send notices of past due rent?
Can the police prosecute someone because someone else who lived with them says that they sold weed but has no proof other than first hand accounts?
Can a judge hear the tenant say that weed was sold out of the house and it made her uncomfortable to be around so she left out of concern for her saftey? (This is what I imagine the tenant to say if things are brought to court.)
Can my girlfriend be prosecuted with my MMJ at her house?
Can I be prosecuted for having my MMJ at her house?


I know the best thing to do here would just be to let her go but my girlfriend is financially dependent on her rent to be able to afford the mortgage on the apartment. If we just stopped selling to the neighbors and I had my MMJ rec at my girlfriends house with the correct amount of bud could we still be at risk of being prosecuted for selling?
I'd love to hear any similar stories because I'm sure this has happened to others... or any insight anyone may have.
If you guys need any other information I'd be happy to provide it.


What to do?

 

[kweezy]

as afro man says... juss sell yo dope

 

[tokinafaty420]

Shes in a contract plain and simple. If she cannot come up with the rent money or refuses your girlfriend is allowed by law to charge the cosigners.

The police may look into it for awhile and if the tips lead no where than they'll just forget about it. It is too expensive to investigate those kind of allegations when other investigations are giving results. Tell all those people who did stop by for some weed that you cannot service them anymore and stick to yourself with the smoking. The police will not be checking in to see if there is weed in the apartment but rather watching the traffic of the apartment / behavior of the occupants. If you must sell some weed, take it to your buddies and intend on spending a few hours hanging out. Makes it look like a social visit. What sends up flags is the quick in and outs on a frequent basis.

 

[Classyathome]

Need advice on how to approach a threatening roommate

With a Louisville Massage Wand in one hand, and the leash to a rottie in the other.

Gas, grass or ass - nobody walks scott free...

Tell her folks about her raging herpes, the gangbangs w/ homeless people, and her talking in her sleep about how "Daddy touches me in a bad place".

Then present her folks w/ a bill marked "PAST DUE"...

And, yes, keep the herb away from gf's place.

 

[GeorgeSmiley]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Classyathome again.

 

[jump /injack]

Don't sell, don't tell and don't smell. You broke all 3 of them. Your lucky she doesn't sub-lease to the "Hells Angels" for a party pad.

 

[Moldy Dreads]

I would let her walk and be glad she is gone.

Get a new roomate and move on. At this point it's not worth the stress, shadiness in your life.Consider it an expensive friend you just lost...YOU are the one to blame for not having charged a $2000 deposit or something...I had to pay $3000 deposit to get into my place....now you see why..laws in this state benefit the person leasing, not the owner..

 

[Zygomatic Major]

Are you growing? If so I'd think twice but if not unleash the hounds!

 

[somebody041]

Wow, thanks for all of the responses!

There is a deposit involved, in the amount of one month's rent. She will not be getting that back but there is still the issues of the remaining month's rent.

tokinafaty - good to know that the cops wouldn't be search the house, they would just be watching the traffic. would they also be checking on our phone records? I don't "have" to sell weed, it's really just a friendly gesture to some neighbors when they are in need. This is a college town and drug dealers are allllllll over the place.

Moldydreads - I hear you on it being an expensive mistake learned. The reason for the low deposit is because it's a college town and deposits are low everywhere. I'm sure that in the future my girlfriend will be updating the lease to include a larger deposit.

Zygnomatic - I am looking after some babies, but they are at my residence, not my girlfriends. The tenant stopped by my house once to pick me up and take me back to the girlfriend's apartment.. I have left a few hydroponic and garden catalogs around my girlfriends apartment that I am sure the tenant saw so I'd assume she does know that I am growing. I am not sure how devious she is and if she would resort to attacking me, an unrelated party. What do you think?

Classy - haha, great post. I'd really hate to have no bud at my Girlfriend's as we like to smoke before we eat dinner and before bed... and I don't think she could function without having bud when she needs it! She's a bigger pothead than me. How long do you think bud should be absent from the apartment? Do we have to wait until the lease is "officially" up?

 

[Hydro-Soil]

I would let her walk and be glad she is gone. It's not worth it, even if you feel it's the principle (or in the contract).

You have a limited amount of resources in life... spend them furthering yourself. Unfortunately, this is a hard lesson to learn about roomates.

Work toward fixing the situation without her (suing isn't going to pay the monthly right now anyway) and if you can't, work toward moving somewhere you can.

I spent almost 2 years living out of my car... believe me, you can do things you wouldn't dream possible and be better off because of it. Just be on the lookout for opportunities that come up.

Stay Safe!

 

[the_man]

keep the deposit and forget about the last months rent

way to much headache your never going to collect it or you will just spend more thru the legal system trying to get it

 

[SpasticGramps]

Too bad it's a girl and not a guy. The solution would be so much easier.

 

[Bean Cracker]

I feel for ya. With that said, wake up, man! Stop selling, you even said you don't need to do it, so don't. Why doesn't your girl get a rec? That will clear up the issue of having some meds in the house.

This whole situation occurred due to slippin up. Even if you can grow, why let anybody even suspect that you're doing it? It's not cool taking your grow mags to someone else's place and leaving them around for anyone and everyone to see. Even if it's innocent, you just planted a seed in someone else's mind if they get popped for anything. Also, what if they start running their mouth about your hobby to other people? I would be concerned and start changing your ways because you never know what someone else is going to do. You know the old sayings about "hell have'th no furry...." and "betrayal begins with trust." Trust no one when it comes to this and act accordingly.

Being cool and being smart are two different things. I hope it works out for ya, but you gotta stop being the cool guy.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

What happens if we just ignore the threat and continue to send notices of past due rent?

You can contact the co-signer in writing. Her parents may pay no questions asked.

Can the police prosecute someone because someone else who lived with them says that they sold weed but has no proof other than first hand accounts?

The short answer is no. LEO could end up paying more attention to you as a result but they'll need more than hearsay alone to bust you.

Can a judge hear the tenant say that weed was sold out of the house and it made her uncomfortable to be around so she left out of concern for her saftey?

That doesn't absolve her lease contract. I wouldn't object if she does but the judge couldn't do anything to you in a civil proceeding as mj is criminal (if you don't meet your state mmj requirements.)

Can my girlfriend be prosecuted with my MMJ at her house?

Check your state laws. Anybody can be prosecuted for having mj in their house. Even a legal mmj patient can exceed their limit.

Can I be prosecuted for having my MMJ at her house?

Check your state laws.

Someone mentioned earlier that lease laws protect the tenant. They also help the landlord if you follow the letter of the law.

I wouldn't worry about her snitching. There's much worse she could say, like you bop underage girls at her place.

It's not so much the legal aspect you have to worry about, it's the venom of the snake you currently have by the tail. Just be careful if she flips because you'll be holding the working end. Best wishes.

 

[somebody041]

theman - thanks for the input. While the tenant is a college student living paycheck to paycheck who wouldn't be able to pay what she owes, her cosigner is her dad who is pretty well off. I imagine that he would want to pay the rent to avoid hurting his credit. I don't think he has any idea of the politics that she is playing.

SpasticGramps - I KNOW!!! I wish she was a guy so I wouldn't feel guilty about what I want to do to her...

Beancracker - Girlfriend doesn't want to get a MMJ rec because she is considering holding some form of public office in the future and she is concerned the MMJ rec may cause problems down the road. Your other advice really made me reconsider my actions so thank you... I keep thinking about "betrayal begins with trust" quote and wow, so true.
Hardly anyone besides the 2 girls and me are in the house, and the mags may have been out for just a few days before we cleaned them up but I nonetheless see the point you are making. It's a sloppy, silly mistake that could easily have been avoided.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

someone could say you killed two hookers and masterbate to pedo porn all day. but till they have some sort of proof all they got are stories...

sue her snitches deserve all they get whenever they get it.