My Super Stealth Closet Grow

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

I like the new changes, they look sweet, what a difference the paint and reflectix made. You will need to light proof the top though.
As SirSmokalot said mold is your issue. In your box with the lid down you will get a massive heat build up, compared to being out in the open. When the temp rises your plants will essentially sweat and release humidty into the air, if you are air tight, then the moisture has no where to go, the air gets wet and stagnant and you have the right conditions for disease. So you want just like your pc, 2 fans, one sucking in, the other blowing out, you keep a negative pressure environment and the air moves throughout your area. Other than keeping them healthy the fan blowing on your plants will allow the stalks to thicken as well in that breeze

Wow good to know. And by negative pressure... Im assuming u mean i need more air leaving then coming in right? Also I have a humidty reader, so when plants get a little bigger i can toss that in. What is a good humidity level to have?

I was also looking around for a good carbon scrubber and i came across this thing. http://www.4eversun.com/activated_hydroponic_carbon_filter.htm What do you guys think. It looks pretty nice and price aint all that bad I just dont know if my fan would push hard enough. Im gonna be running a 103CFM exhaust, think thats enough to use this baby? Thanks for the feedback.

P.S. Ill take some pics of how to hook up the big fan in a 2nd i did it kinda the expensive way think it cost like 60 bucks, but i run all my fans off 1 power supply and its pretty easy just plug n play.

 

[SirSmokalot]

humidity levels vary on strain and level of development. some strains have dense nugs(mold prone) and some are looser. for veg 50-60% rh is good enough. flower should imo be no higher than 30%rh 20% is better. good ventilation and plenty of air movement is key trust us. start small and see how girls/strain choice fills out your box. regardless of your area, you need fresh air and low humidity during flower. i think you will befine if you keep near these levels. there are just so many variables. once you know your environments characterisic you will be all gravy. but that takes constant monitoring in the begining. but worth every second. any one else agree? good luck and keep up the questions, they keep us learning!
grow safe!!!
SSA

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

good luck and keep up the questions, they keep us learning!
grow safe!!!
SSA

lol u guys are walking me through it. Anyway we are on day 10 and they have really started to take off. It seems like once i put in the reflectix they just shot up. You can really tell the difference in the 2 strains.



2 pics of same plant, this one is the biggest




So we will see what happens. Im hoping my air flow will be enough for veg n flower. I am gonna have 3 45CFM intake fans with 1 more blowing on CFLs towards exhaust. Also like 1 or 2 maybe 30 or 45CFM fans inside the box once they get bigger. My exhaust is a 120mm 103CFM. You guys think this http://www.4eversun.com/activated_hydroponic_carbon_filter.htm carbon scrubber will work with that fan? Im also thinking im gonna need more lights when they are vegging. but that wont be for a while. Well happy growing!

 

[SirSmokalot]

yeah but all that thinking of advise keeps us all sharp. like a pop quiz. be sure not to water those babes to much or to little haha. i mean let soil dry like90%_95% before you water. you dont wantto get soggy soil in your container bottoms and sprouts stems can rot this early if they are to soaked. and when you transplant dont bury to much available stem. that can also lead to stem rot. just lookin ahead is all.(dont know if youll even trans.) peace keep it comin. SSA

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

ya they have only been watered once since they have been in the rubbermaid. they look really wet in the pics lol, but i just put my finger in em and they are dry like 1-2 inches down. And ya i think i am going to transplant em once they get bigger. I have 4 in the bucket now, but i think one is not going to make it. Its been like the exact same size since its been put in the bucket and is prolly less than half the size of the others. Plus the soil they are in right now is straight from the bag, so i wanna add some things and put the 3 in bigger pots. Anyways 2 of the plants are really shooting up like crazy and the other good one is up their in highth, but not as many leaves. I was gonna get a pic of em, but my batteries are dead in the digi cam. oh ya and any feedback on the carbon scrubber? http://www.4eversun.com/activated_h...rbon_filter.htm these things got me totally confused cuz i heard you need a pretty good fan to push the air through it

 

[Dr Dog]

I don't know how much I would be worried about smell with just a couple of plants. If you dropped a bigger lightin there you will have heat issues. I run a 400 mh in a 8ft high 3 ft wide closet, and my temps is I left the cover closed would easily reach 90+during the 12 hours. You are better off having cfls or get a cool tube.

I am flowering 6 plants now, not much in the way of smell, nothing that you would be able to smell outside the house, or in another room, when I do need to start worrying about odor, I tend to get ghetto with my approach and use a few dryer sheets on my exhaust fan, very cheap, and keeps socks from sticking to my plants

 

[Sammet]

I tend to get ghetto with my approach and use a few dryer sheets on my exhaust fan, very cheap, and keeps socks from sticking to my plants

For years I've been plagued by socks sticking to my plants, good to know I'm not alone!

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

well im not to worried about smell getting out of control and others smelling, more the fact that my box is in my closet and i dont want my clothes to be skunky

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

well im running into a little problem! 2 of my plants are dying. they started getting yellow, and then brown spots and the spots are getting bigger and they are looking sicker and sicker! Anyone have any idea what this could be? I would put pictures, but what do ya know as soon as these bitches get sick my battery dies. Sooo as soon as i get batteries ill post pics, but until then what do you guys think??? I havn't put any nutes in soil yet, so it cant be any kinda burn.

 

[ZeusOGrefugee]

Lookin good, Tizzle. NIce name by the way...Ill def be around here!!! Peace.

- Z

 

[Sammet]

Got any pics of your sick plants yet mate? what are the temps like and how close are they to your bulbs? Are they going yellow from the bottom up or from the top down, are there green veins in the yellow leaves?

Give us some more info so we can help bud.

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

well theres been some changes in the growbox in the past week. When the plants started looking sick I decided to transplant the best 2 into larger pots to go the rest of the grow. I also added the top half of the box because with the new pots the lid wont fit without lights breaking and later today im gonna do some construction in the closet to make it fit in there nicely. One of the plants is looking pretty good, but has stopped growing a bit i think. Been super busy lately so havn't really been able to measure, but it doesn't look sick at all.
Nirvana NL x Haze






But the other is totally dying. It was weird i had 3 plants and 2 strains going and at the same time one of the strains just started drooping and yellowing, and now i got big brown spots.







I havn't added any nutes at all and my temps when yellowing started were low to mid 80's. But since then i added the top box and my plants were too far ffom the lights so i had to raise them closer, but in doing so now the pots are where the intake air comes in, and so my temps are running about 82-89 and sometimes during the heat of the day even 90. Im going to add another fan later today i think, but i gotta find a bracket to hold it. Anyone have any idea where i can find a bracket to hold a computer fan in? I dont want to put it in the side of box, but just mount an inch or 2 off the side of the wall blowing on the plants, and i think another blowing on my lights toward the exhaust to get hot air out. Well any thoughts would be great!

 

[Dr Dog]

why not just use really long screws about the diameter of the pc mounting screws, so a pc fan is about 1 inch in diameter, why not just use 4 3 inch screws. To avoid permantly fkn up your box, just put a small piece of wood on the other side of the box where it would be screwed into. That will relieve the individual stresses of each of the screws, and keep you from ripping the shit out of your arms whenever you mess around with your plants.


Now on to your plants. You know some plants live and some die. I really can't see what is goin on in these pics, and i suffer the same as you with a shitty cam.
What size pot do you have those little plants in? You don't want to grow babies in a huge pot. You use a small pot, let the roots start coming out the drainage holes, then transplant into a size or two bigger. I always at least do it three times from jiffy pellet or seed.

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

well i transplanted to a 1ft radius pot. not sure gallon size, but my last pot had roots coming out of the bottom. Any ideas how to redo the damage and get a nice plant or is this guy dead?

 

[SirSmokalot]

those plants are too small for that 1 gal. it will work bot should be in a 2 liter bottle size or something look at the size of these in veg. diff strains

all in 2 liter bottles and not even close to root bound, although there are roots all over the bottom( doesnt mean they are rootbound). that looks like burning to me nut is hard to see.. maybe the soil in the transplant container is to hot for the strain and not the others. i need to read your threads back up hope that helps
SIR

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

wow i like the 2 liter bottle pot. I wish i woulda known bout that before i transplanted lol. Next grow im def gonna use those. and the growbox is finally in its intended place in the closet. Its almost all lightproof and runs pretty quietly. We will see what happens. Here are some pics!






By the way the plants are now sitting in the bottom of the top box to be closer to the lights. Think i would be ok to put them in the very bottom so i can lower my temps a little? I have 6 23w CFLs so was thinking of replacing 2-4 of them with 40ish watt CFLs? maybe all? If i have higher wattage would i be safe to put the plants at the bottom? maybe even a 150w hps? what do u guys think?

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

Well since switching the setup up a little ive needed to lower my temps. So i macguyvered another fan up until i can find a better way to put it in there. Used some cording to hang it from the lights lol.


Temps are down to about 83-85 so its still running hot cuz i cant really aim my fan too well. But once i drop the plants to the bottom and get a sturdy fan in there ill be ok.
I think im going to switch up 4 of my bulbs to something like 40ish watt and drop the plants tho for better ventalation. But for now they should be ok right? other than that my humidity is around 38% so im guessing i should up it a little? Anyone got any thoughts for the noob?
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So im thinking of changing things in the growbox again. My current system is putting out a little over 150watts of CFL light. and if i want good plants with CFL i figure im gonna prolly have to run around 250watts. So im thinking instead of changing up the bulbs maybe i should just run a 150w HPS. i found this thing on ebay what do you guys think of it. http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-150-watt-HP...ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Or anyone know where i can get a better one to fit my needs. Also i dont know really anything about these lights, so if i were to buy this one would i need anything else? Cant wait to hear what you pros think!

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

Day 27

Day 27

Well things have gotten nicer in the growtub as of late. The sick plant has been taken out and replaced with another plant that was in the tub earlier but was moved outside for a bit to bring back to life(it was worse then the sick plant in the tub). So since it came back figured id ship the sick plant to a nice spot under that big halide in the sky. Also decided to drop the plants to the bottom to get my temps back to normal, theyre about 78-81f so seems pretty good.

Made up my mind that Im gonna switch lighting to a 150w hps. You guys think the aircooled 150w will keep temps ok, or do i need to set up a remote ballast? Well heres some pics

The new plant


NL x Haze !

 

[Sammet]

Looking good mate. The hps sounds like a risk to me. Ballasts put out a lot of heat and a remote ballast would warm up your closet too. Maybe with some extra ventilation it'd be fine, but it's not really possible to tell until you ran a test. It would certainly improve your grow so If you can afford it both in cash and time (taken to sort out the temps) I'd give it a shot. Let us know how you get on mate.

 

[qwerty]

Hi Tizzle and the rest of the crew! Just stopping in to say hi, and good work Tizzle! I will be lurking..